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[James_Shepherd]

Either way, Tali still whoops them.

[Someone With Mass]

nickFury wrote...

Runescapeguy9 wrote...
She says her name.

You sure? I just watched the scene twice with Tali there and no one who actually says her name till Tali does at the end, unless Lia' tells you when Tali's not around, which still doesn't answer the question as to how Tali knows her name.

She says she's nar Ulnay if you just run by them. That might be a clue.

[General Douchington]

mrsph wrote...

Videogame characters have the unique talent of learning names when they never actually hear them in person.

Except Shepard.

"Who's Harkin?"

[camoboy_19]

Shepard is so oblivious. Good thing Tali is there or he would be so lost.



Anyways, I was just playing Grunt's loyalty mission, and I initiated this dialogue with Tali.



She talks about How the krogans have basically been destroying their world and themselves, something Quarians don't understand



Then Grunt takes the Jacob path of a rebuttal and says:

"You're one to talk. Hows that enslaved machine race going?"

She then says that the Quarians were pushed off their world, while Krogans waste their own. Then says maybe the Krogans need to lose it in order to understand.



Kinda made me think about how Quarians would be extremely confused why all the other races take their worlds for granted, then ****** on what quarians try to do because of the mistakes of their ancestors.

[Weiser_Cain]

One of the biggest problems I have is the idea that the Quarians couldn't get a new homeworld.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

camoboy_19 wrote...

Shepard is so oblivious. Good thing Tali is there or he would be so lost.

Anyways, I was just playing Grunt's loyalty mission, and I initiated this dialogue with Tali.

She talks about How the krogans have basically been destroying their world and themselves, something Quarians don't understand

Then Grunt takes the Jacob path of a rebuttal and says:
"You're one to talk. Hows that enslaved machine race going?"
She then says that the Quarians were pushed off their world, while Krogans waste their own. Then says maybe the Krogans need to lose it in order to understand.

Kinda made me think about how Quarians would be extremely confused why all the other races take their worlds for granted, then ****** on what quarians try to do because of the mistakes of their ancestors.

Turian response: Take a world for your own if you are strong enough!
Krogan response: Take a world for your own if you've got a quad!
Salarian response: manipulate your way onto a new homeworld!
Asari response: *too busy being space sl*ts to respond*
Human response: well...you could....uhm do something....
Reaper response: WHY THE F*CK ARE YOU ASKING US? I MEAN WE'RE TRYING TO KILL YOU...SO I DON'T THINK OUR OPINIONS WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL!

[eldav]

[Edit: Obvious troll is obvious. Do not take bait. -- Pacifien]

Modifié par Pacifien, 03 octobre 2010 - 10:33 .

[Alexine]

I think the reason why Quarians don't want to find a new homeworld is that it would be very difficult to adapt. But then again it would be just as hard to adapt back in their old homeworld...

I feel at times the Quarians don't really know what to do.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

So what commercials would you like to see Tali do?

Mine's Tupari:

Tali: Tupari...I can't drink it but you should!...that was what I was supposed to say right?

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Alexine wrote...

I think the reason why Quarians don't want to find a new homeworld is that it would be very difficult to adapt. But then again it would be just as hard to adapt back in their old homeworld...
I feel at times the Quarians don't really know what to do.

Don't feed da troll!
It just encourages them.

[Alexine]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Alexine wrote...

I think the reason why Quarians don't want to find a new homeworld is that it would be very difficult to adapt. But then again it would be just as hard to adapt back in their old homeworld...
I feel at times the Quarians don't really know what to do.

Don't feed da troll!
It just encourages them.

Troll feeding... eww... (been watching HP the last week, so a troll can be a... )

Anyway, back onto topic: Tali does describe that Quarians like to debate a lot due to being locked in their suits. In many ways, humans and quarians share a similarity that they have diverse opinions. I think that what makes them different is that quarians since having no homeworld and no embassy in the Council, did not have the resources to be able to progress as quickly as the humans have.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Alexine wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Alexine wrote...

I think the reason why Quarians don't want to find a new homeworld is that it would be very difficult to adapt. But then again it would be just as hard to adapt back in their old homeworld...
I feel at times the Quarians don't really know what to do.

Don't feed da troll!
It just encourages them.

Troll feeding... eww... (been watching HP the last week, so a troll can be a... )

Anyway, back onto topic: Tali does describe that Quarians like to debate a lot due to being locked in their suits. In many ways, humans and quarians share a similarity that they have diverse opinions. I think that what makes them different is that quarians since having no homeworld and no embassy in the Council, did not have the resources to be able to progress as quickly as the humans have.

It's kind of like how people that only really socialize via the internet tend to be argumenitive...it helps compensate for lack of normal communication.
They had the resources and the embassy for a while...then the whole "our robotic servants have rebelled oh noes!" think kind of put the kabash on any further advancement.

[Alexine]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

It's kind of like how people that only really socialize via the internet tend to be argumenitive...it helps compensate for lack of normal communication.

They had the resources and the embassy for a while...then the whole "our robotic servants have rebelled oh noes!" think kind of put the kabash on any further advancement.

Which makes me wonder why we don't hear a lot of rogue quarians who have private entities in ME universe? I mean, in the humans case, if you don't like what the whole crowd is going, you establish your own base and make private business fund that own base (Cerberus as an big example). You don't see many quarians do this (in a cultural context), but I got to wonder where those quarians who didn't return from pilgrimage or were exiled went off to...

[sergio71785]

Quarians have difficulty finding a new world for two reasons:

They need a garden world in which dextro is the primary amino-acid chirality of the animals/vegetation. For one reason or another, these seem to be a lot rarer than "levo worlds"

And the other, is of course, their weak immune systems. Their own native environment would be hard enough on their immune systems now. 

They did, however, at one point begin the colonization of the planet Ekuna, which they discovered. Unfortunately, the Council didn't like that they started colonizing it before they asked for permission, so they were forced to abandon it.

First discovered by the quarians at the turn of the century, Ekuna is habitable but a second-tier choice for most species. Circling an orange sun, Ekuna averages below freezing temperatures. This led development firms to colonize at the planet's equator, where the climate is tolerable for agriculture. The quarians, seeking a homeworld of their own, petitioned the Citadel Council for the right to take over Ekuna, but they had already settled a few hundred thousand quarians on the planet before approaching the Council. Seeing this occupation as an illegal act, the Council turned a deaf ear to quarian pleas and gave the world to the elcor, who could withstand the high gravity of the world far better. The quarians squatting on the planet were given one galactic standard month to leave, at which point their colonies would be bombarded. The junk left behind by the fleeing quarians clogs up portions of the landscape to this day. Non-elcor visitors to Ekuna are advised to use personal or vehicular mass effect fields to lighten the pressure, as the surface gravity will otherwise cause health and mechanical problems.

Seriously, Council, WTF.

Modifié par sergio71785, 03 octobre 2010 - 10:46 .

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Alexine wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

It's kind of like how people that only really socialize via the internet tend to be argumenitive...it helps compensate for lack of normal communication.

They had the resources and the embassy for a while...then the whole "our robotic servants have rebelled oh noes!" think kind of put the kabash on any further advancement.

Which makes me wonder why we don't hear a lot of rogue quarians who have private entities in ME universe? I mean, in the humans case, if you don't like what the whole crowd is going, you establish your own base and make private business fund that own base (Cerberus as an big example). You don't see many quarians do this (in a cultural context), but I got to wonder where those quarians who didn't return from pilgrimage or were exiled went off to...

I would have to assume that they intergrate into whatever community they are in.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

sergio71785 wrote...

Quarians have difficulty finding a new world for two reasons:

They need a garden world in which dextro is the primary amino-acid chirality of the animals/vegetation. For one reason or another, these seem to be a lot rarer than "levo worlds"

And the other, is of course, their weak immune systems. Their own native environment would be hard enough on their immune systems now. 

They did, however, at one point begin the colonization of the planet Ekuna, which they discovered. Unfortunately, the Council didn't like that they started colonizing it before they asked for permission, so they were forced to abandon it.

irst discovered by the quarians at the turn of the century, Ekuna is habitable but a second-tier choice for most species. Circling an orange sun, Ekuna averages below freezing temperatures. This led development firms to colonize at the planet's equator, where the climate is tolerable for agriculture. The quarians, seeking a homeworld of their own, petitioned the Citadel Council for the right to take over Ekuna, but they had already settled a few hundred thousand quarians on the planet before approaching the Council. Seeing this occupation as an illegal act, the Council turned a deaf ear to quarian pleas and gave the world to the elcor, who could withstand the high gravity of the world far better. The quarians squatting on the planet were given one galactic standard month to leave, at which point their colonies would be bombarded. The junk left behind by the fleeing quarians clogs up portions of the landscape to this day. Non-elcor visitors to Ekuna are advised to use personal or vehicular mass effect fields to lighten the pressure, as the surface gravity will otherwise cause health and mechanical problems.

Seriously, Council, WTF.

SERGIO!!!!!!!
And didn't we already know that the council was filled with a bunch of selfish douchebags?

[Spartanburger]

sergio71785 wrote...

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...The quarians, seeking a homeworld of their own, petitioned the Citadel Council for the right to take over Ekuna, but they had already settled a few hundred thousand quarians on the planet before approaching the Council. Seeing this occupation as an illegal act, the Council turned a deaf ear to quarian pleas and gave the world to the elcor, who could withstand the high gravity of the world far better. The quarians squatting on the planet were given one galactic standard month to leave, at which point their colonies would be bombarded. The junk left behind by the fleeing quarians clogs up portions of the landscape to this day...
Seriously, Council, WTF.

Sometimes I regret saving their incompitent behinds in ME1.

[sergio71785]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...
SERGIO!!!!!!!
And didn't we already know that the council was filled with a bunch of selfish douchebags?

It's funny how consistently wrong the different generations of the Council are. And you know that during the Ekuna incident, it wasn't even the same council as now (except *maybe* the Asari).

Almost makes me wonder if being an idiot is some kind of requirement to be a Councilor. 

Modifié par sergio71785, 03 octobre 2010 - 10:50 .

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Spartanburger wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

.
...The quarians, seeking a homeworld of their own, petitioned the Citadel Council for the right to take over Ekuna, but they had already settled a few hundred thousand quarians on the planet before approaching the Council. Seeing this occupation as an illegal act, the Council turned a deaf ear to quarian pleas and gave the world to the elcor, who could withstand the high gravity of the world far better. The quarians squatting on the planet were given one galactic standard month to leave, at which point their colonies would be bombarded. The junk left behind by the fleeing quarians clogs up portions of the landscape to this day...
Seriously, Council, WTF.

Sometimes I regret saving their incompitent behinds in ME1.

Well your only consolation is that everybody hates you if you don't and every one is completely oblivious if you do.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

sergio71785 wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...
SERGIO!!!!!!!
And didn't we already know that the council was filled with a bunch of selfish douchebags?

It's funny how consistently wrong the different generations of the Council are. And you know that during the Ekuna incident, it wasn't even the same council as now (except *maybe* the Asari).

Almost makes me wonder if being an idiot is some kind of requirement to be a Councilor. 

Ah yes "only idiots can be councillors" the unstated rule that any councillor representing the Asari, Turians, or Salarians must be stupid, we have confirmed that claim.

[Alexine]

sergio71785 wrote...

First discovered by the quarians at the turn of the century, Ekuna is habitable but a second-tier choice for most species. Circling an orange sun, Ekuna averages below freezing temperatures. This led development firms to colonize at the planet's equator, where the climate is tolerable for agriculture. The quarians, seeking a homeworld of their own, petitioned the Citadel Council for the right to take over Ekuna, but they had already settled a few hundred thousand quarians on the planet before approaching the Council. Seeing this occupation as an illegal act, the Council turned a deaf ear to quarian pleas and gave the world to the elcor, who could withstand the high gravity of the world far better. The quarians squatting on the planet were given one galactic standard month to leave, at which point their colonies would be bombarded. The junk left behind by the fleeing quarians clogs up portions of the landscape to this day. Non-elcor visitors to Ekuna are advised to use personal or vehicular mass effect fields to lighten the pressure, as the surface gravity will otherwise cause health and mechanical problems.

Seriously, Council, WTF.

That's interesting. I didn't know something about that, but it does shed some light over the lack of support Admiral Zoris gets with colonisation other homeworlds and a large proportion of quarians who support trying to take back the homeworld.

Even when the quarians find a new homeworld to colonise, the council will start butting in again... D:

[sergio71785]

camoboy_19 wrote...

Shepard is so oblivious. Good thing Tali is there or he would be so lost.

Anyways, I was just playing Grunt's loyalty mission, and I initiated this dialogue with Tali.

She talks about How the krogans have basically been destroying their world and themselves, something Quarians don't understand

Then Grunt takes the Jacob path of a rebuttal and says:
"You're one to talk. Hows that enslaved machine race going?"
She then says that the Quarians were pushed off their world, while Krogans waste their own. Then says maybe the Krogans need to lose it in order to understand.

Kinda made me think about how Quarians would be extremely confused why all the other races take their worlds for granted, then ****** on what quarians try to do because of the mistakes of their ancestors.

You know what I think, I think Tali feels frustrated toward the krogan, because she can see they have the potential to thrive even with the genophage. 

Both her race and the krogan share the similarity that their races are facing a massive hurdle, which has them on the brink of extinction. So in a way, she can relate to the krogan.

Tali probably feels frustrated that the krogan don't get their act together. If they stopped being all "omg, I wanna fight something!" and genuinely focused on rebuilding their empire, instead of wallowing in what has happened and fighting each other for no damn reason, they'd rise above their problem.

Fortunately, Wrex seems to be pushing the krogan in the right direction. 

Modifié par sergio71785, 03 octobre 2010 - 10:56 .

[CptSkull]

sergio71785 wrote...

Quarians have difficulty finding a new world for two reasons:

They need a garden world in which dextro is the primary amino-acid chirality of the animals/vegetation. For one reason or another, these seem to be a lot rarer than "levo worlds"

And the other, is of course, their weak immune systems. Their own native environment would be hard enough on their immune systems now. 

They did, however, at one point begin the colonization of the planet Ekuna, which they discovered. Unfortunately, the Council didn't like that they started colonizing it before they asked for permission, so they were forced to abandon it.

First discovered by the quarians at the turn of the century, Ekuna is habitable but a second-tier choice for most species. Circling an orange sun, Ekuna averages below freezing temperatures. This led development firms to colonize at the planet's equator, where the climate is tolerable for agriculture. The quarians, seeking a homeworld of their own, petitioned the Citadel Council for the right to take over Ekuna, but they had already settled a few hundred thousand quarians on the planet before approaching the Council. Seeing this occupation as an illegal act, the Council turned a deaf ear to quarian pleas and gave the world to the elcor, who could withstand the high gravity of the world far better. The quarians squatting on the planet were given one galactic standard month to leave, at which point their colonies would be bombarded. The junk left behind by the fleeing quarians clogs up portions of the landscape to this day. Non-elcor visitors to Ekuna are advised to use personal or vehicular mass effect fields to lighten the pressure, as the surface gravity will otherwise cause health and mechanical problems.

Seriously, Council, WTF.

This reinforces my theory that The Council(Human or Alien) will turn on Shepard in ME3.

[El-Destructo]

Spartanburger wrote...
Sometimes I regret saving their incompitent behinds in ME1.

Pfft. I didn't do it to save the council. I saved the Destiny Ascension and legitimized Shepard as not being the tool of a puppet gorvernment in the eyes of people that actually matter. The council can mostly kiss my arse otherwise.