Tali'Zorah Thread *Spoiler warning!*
#5301
Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 01:01
#5302
Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 01:09
Anyway on the topic of why the Quarians have to live in suits even on their ships: There are 17million Quarians living in the flotilla. There are only 50,000 ships. That means roughly 350 Quarians per ship. It gets quite crowded and would therefore be a breeding place for bacteria, as well as making it easy to spread viruses. Therefore, the suits offer the same protection on their ships as they do in the outside world.
#5303
Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 01:17
xlavaina wrote...
^lol
Anyway on the topic of why the Quarians have to live in suits even on their ships: There are 17million Quarians living in the flotilla. There are only 50,000 ships. That means roughly 350 Quarians per ship. It gets quite crowded and would therefore be a breeding place for bacteria, as well as making it easy to spread viruses. Therefore, the suits offer the same protection on their ships as they do in the outside world.
Not to mention that the ships seem filled with far more biological life than expected (during Tali's trial, the room where the hearing was held seemed 'walled' with plants.). An even more chance of virus/bacteria growth.
#5304
Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 01:21
I'd always rather assumed it was an IFF... Err, an "if and only if" situation. But then, I've only gone through once, I really wouldn't know either way.
Modifié par The_Numerator, 16 octobre 2010 - 01:24 .
#5305
Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 01:47
#5306
Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 01:58
Good lord.
That's...
Good lord. Baffling. Truly, truly baffling. What a waste.
#5307
Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 02:01
http://social.biowar...581/blog/10478/
Shepard is a being from an alternate universe who watched his galaxy come close to absolute extinction from a plague was was unleashed by Cerberus from the Mass Effect Reality who travel to his reality through a wormhole. While many races manage to survive the outbreak, Shepard's specie was entirely wiped out. Now his galaxy's government send him forth to bring Cerberus to just and to end the threat to their galaxy. It's only later after he arrives that he finds a threat greater than Cerberus.
#5308
Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 02:05
Spartanburger wrote...
xlavaina wrote...
^lol
Anyway on the topic of why the Quarians have to live in suits even on their ships: There are 17million Quarians living in the flotilla. There are only 50,000 ships. That means roughly 350 Quarians per ship. It gets quite crowded and would therefore be a breeding place for bacteria, as well as making it easy to spread viruses. Therefore, the suits offer the same protection on their ships as they do in the outside world.
Not to mention that the ships seem filled with far more biological life than expected (during Tali's trial, the room where the hearing was held seemed 'walled' with plants.). An even more chance of virus/bacteria growth.
Okay then, so that's why they wear suits... Still doesn't explain why Tali requested a sterilization team when the Normandy docked. If they wear a suit all the time, none of that should matter. I mean, Tali her own self doesn't need one on the Normandy either.
#5309
Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 02:13
#5310
Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 02:22
Iwakura-Lain wrote...
Okay then, so that's why they wear suits... Still doesn't explain why Tali requested a sterilization team when the Normandy docked. If they wear a suit all the time, none of that should matter. I mean, Tali her own self doesn't need one on the Normandy either.
It was kinda explained in the 2nd book that it is to kill foriegn bacteria from entering the docking ship. They should really be working on genetically building their immune systems then trying to take back their homeword. They spend way too much time trying to find a way to kill the geth when they could be making other medical adavncements with the salarians.
#5311
Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 02:30
Modifié par Pacifien, 16 octobre 2010 - 02:33 .
#5312
Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 02:33
Hmm. I guess I should really seek to acquire those books you mention. This stuff isn't on the wiki.AntenDS wrote...
Iwakura-Lain wrote...
Okay then, so that's why they wear suits... Still doesn't explain why Tali requested a sterilization team when the Normandy docked. If they wear a suit all the time, none of that should matter. I mean, Tali her own self doesn't need one on the Normandy either.
It was kinda explained in the 2nd book that it is to kill foriegn bacteria from entering the docking ship. They should really be working on genetically building their immune systems then trying to take back their homeword. They spend way too much time trying to find a way to kill the geth when they could be making other medical adavncements with the salarians.
#5313
Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 02:42
Iwakura-Lain wrote...
Hmm. I guess I should really seek to acquire those books you mention. This stuff isn't on the wiki.AntenDS wrote...
Iwakura-Lain wrote...
Okay then, so that's why they wear suits... Still doesn't explain why Tali requested a sterilization team when the Normandy docked. If they wear a suit all the time, none of that should matter. I mean, Tali her own self doesn't need one on the Normandy either.
It was kinda explained in the 2nd book that it is to kill foriegn bacteria from entering the docking ship. They should really be working on genetically building their immune systems then trying to take back their homeword. They spend way too much time trying to find a way to kill the geth when they could be making other medical adavncements with the salarians.Thanks,
"hmm i meant the ship they are docking into"
But Tali is great and should get Mordin to help make a gene therapy that gives them a better imune system. I wonder what the admiralty board will think when they know Legion is on board with Tali who just got "cleared" for treason. Shep just went off on a wild tangent that didn't really clear her of any wrong doing. He just used his charm to throw them off.
#5314
Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 03:21
SECURITY and QUARANTINE team. The idea is that if you don't request said team, they figure you've got something to hide. She said nothing about a "sterilization team".AntenDS wrote...
Iwakura-Lain wrote...
Okay then, so that's why they wear suits... Still doesn't explain why Tali requested a sterilization team when the Normandy docked. If they wear a suit all the time, none of that should matter. I mean, Tali her own self doesn't need one on the Normandy either.
It was kinda explained in the 2nd book that it is to kill foriegn bacteria from entering the docking ship. They should really be working on genetically building their immune systems then trying to take back their homeword. They spend way too much time trying to find a way to kill the geth when they could be making other medical adavncements with the salarians.
On a side note: Quarantine... Quarian... hmmm...
Modifié par LTAshler, 16 octobre 2010 - 03:23 .
#5315
Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 03:32
That's gotta be one of the worst bits of reasoning I've ever seen in my life. I genuinely feel overwhelmed, trying to come up with why it's wrong.
Okay, you mention food. Turians and quarians both have the same amino acid chirality, which is why they supposedly can eat some some of the same food. (Let's ignore the fact that food has nothing to do with the appearance of a species).
Here's the thing with amino-acid chirality. It doesn't mean anything. In a super simple explanation, it means that at the molecular level, their molecules have the carbon atom 'facing' the opposite direction.
This means absolutely nothing in the big picture. You could theoretically have a human, who looks and functions the same as any other human, with dextro chirality.
Consider this. Humans, salarians, krogan, asari, and every animal on this planet are levo-chirality. Yet the differences are near infinite.
Chirality is esentially irrelevent. Quarians have no more in common with a turian than humans have with a krogan.
[/quote]Chirality is not irrelevant. A mixture of left and right handed amino acids spells death for the organism in question. When we die, our bodies break down from all left-handed amino acids to 50% left, 50% right. Chirality DEFINITELY matters. As to it affecting appearance, we share roughly 52% of our genes with bananas and I have yet to see one of those walk down main street. So, no, Anten's 'argument' still holds no water.
[quote]AntenDS wrote...
Hmm. I guess I should really seek to acquire those books you mention. This stuff isn't on the wiki.
"hmm i meant the ship they are docking into"
But Tali is great and should get Mordin to help make a gene therapy that gives them a better imune system. I wonder what the admiralty board will think when they know Legion is on board with Tali who just got "cleared" for treason. Shep just went off on a wild tangent that didn't really clear her of any wrong doing. He just used his charm to throw them off.
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They knew she was innocent, Shep just told them where to stuff it.
Modifié par LTAshler, 16 octobre 2010 - 03:37 .
#5316
Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 03:36
LTAshler wrote...
Chirality is not irrelevant. A mixture of left and right handed amino acids spells death for the organism in question. When we die, our bodies break down from all left-handed amino acids to 50% left, 50% right. Chirality DEFINITELY matters. As to it affecting appearance, we share roughly 52% of our genes with bananas and I have yet to see one of those walk down main street. So, no, Anten's 'argument' still holds no water.
The context of my "chirality is irrelevant" was purely in regards to the appearance of a race. I figured that was understood since that's all that was being talked about.
Modifié par sergio71785, 16 octobre 2010 - 03:37 .
#5317
Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 04:09
#5318
Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 06:10
LTAshler wrote...
Chirality is not irrelevant. A mixture of left and right handed amino acids spells death for the organism in question. When we die, our bodies break down from all left-handed amino acids to 50% left, 50% right. Chirality DEFINITELY matters.
I'm sorry; I don't wish to interrupt, but unless I've mistaken the context, you've said that mixing substances of different chirality is toxic? In particular, it sounds like you're alluding to racemates-- Am I following you?
#5319
Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 09:09
AntenDS wrote...
"hmm i meant the ship they are docking into"
But Tali is great and should get Mordin to help make a gene therapy that gives them a better imune system. I wonder what the admiralty board will think when they know Legion is on board with Tali who just got "cleared" for treason. Shep just went off on a wild tangent that didn't really clear her of any wrong doing. He just used his charm to throw them off.
Considering Sovereign also referred to themselves as "We are legion," the Admiralty might raise an eyebrow or two at Tali being onboard with Legion.
#5320
Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 02:50
#5321
Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 03:58
The_Numerator wrote...
LTAshler wrote...
Chirality is not irrelevant. A mixture of left and right handed amino acids spells death for the organism in question. When we die, our bodies break down from all left-handed amino acids to 50% left, 50% right. Chirality DEFINITELY matters.
I'm sorry; I don't wish to interrupt, but unless I've mistaken the context, you've said that mixing substances of different chirality is toxic? In particular, it sounds like you're alluding to racemates-- Am I following you?
That contradicts what I've heard. Ingesting protiens of the wrong chirality will most likely result in nothing. The body simply cannot make use of it, so it just goes out the other end.
And why would they mix to 50% left and 50% right? Bacteria are still in there, and like all other life on Earth, they're levo, right? Why don't they die off en masse?
#5322
Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 03:58
#5323
Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 04:36
I really like it too.
#5324
Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 04:46
#5325
Guest_jon1991_*
Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 05:32
Guest_jon1991_*
MadCat221 wrote...
The_Numerator wrote...
LTAshler wrote...
Chirality is not irrelevant. A mixture of left and right handed amino acids spells death for the organism in question. When we die, our bodies break down from all left-handed amino acids to 50% left, 50% right. Chirality DEFINITELY matters.
I'm sorry; I don't wish to interrupt, but unless I've mistaken the context, you've said that mixing substances of different chirality is toxic? In particular, it sounds like you're alluding to racemates-- Am I following you?
That contradicts what I've heard. Ingesting protiens of the wrong chirality will most likely result in nothing. The body simply cannot make use of it, so it just goes out the other end.
And why would they mix to 50% left and 50% right? Bacteria are still in there, and like all other life on Earth, they're levo, right? Why don't they die off en masse?
Medicines can be mixtures of two chiral molecules as well.





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