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PlAgu3 666

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I have been Talidoctrinated so I agree with Tali on everything, I have no control left.

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xlavaina

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^lol



Anyway on the topic of why the Quarians have to live in suits even on their ships: There are 17million Quarians living in the flotilla. There are only 50,000 ships. That means roughly 350 Quarians per ship. It gets quite crowded and would therefore be a breeding place for bacteria, as well as making it easy to spread viruses. Therefore, the suits offer the same protection on their ships as they do in the outside world.

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xlavaina wrote...

^lol

Anyway on the topic of why the Quarians have to live in suits even on their ships: There are 17million Quarians living in the flotilla. There are only 50,000 ships. That means roughly 350 Quarians per ship. It gets quite crowded and would therefore be a breeding place for bacteria, as well as making it easy to spread viruses. Therefore, the suits offer the same protection on their ships as they do in the outside world.


Not to mention that the ships seem filled with far more biological life than expected (during Tali's trial, the room where the hearing was held seemed 'walled' with plants.). An even more chance of virus/bacteria growth.

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Say, I hate to intrude with a rather technical question, but I was wondering: Does anyone know if Tali's interest in Shepard develops if you weren't kind to her in ME1, and the early stages of ME2? Like, refusing to assist with her pilgrimage by providing a copy of the Geth intel, and throwing Veetor to the wolves and all that?

I'd always rather assumed it was an IFF... Err, an "if and only if" situation. But then, I've only gone through once, I really wouldn't know either way.

Modifié par The_Numerator, 16 octobre 2010 - 01:24 .


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xlavaina

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^No it makes no difference. You can be a total jerk to her in ME1 and she'll still be attached to you in ME2. The only difference in dialog is if you give her / dont give her the Geth data for her pilgrimage.

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Really?



Good lord.



That's...



Good lord. Baffling. Truly, truly baffling. What a waste.

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Just released the prologue chapter of my new series "Mass Effect Parallel Realities"



http://social.biowar...581/blog/10478/



Shepard is a being from an alternate universe who watched his galaxy come close to absolute extinction from a plague was was unleashed by Cerberus from the Mass Effect Reality who travel to his reality through a wormhole. While many races manage to survive the outbreak, Shepard's specie was entirely wiped out. Now his galaxy's government send him forth to bring Cerberus to just and to end the threat to their galaxy. It's only later after he arrives that he finds a threat greater than Cerberus.

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Spartanburger wrote...

xlavaina wrote...

^lol

Anyway on the topic of why the Quarians have to live in suits even on their ships: There are 17million Quarians living in the flotilla. There are only 50,000 ships. That means roughly 350 Quarians per ship. It gets quite crowded and would therefore be a breeding place for bacteria, as well as making it easy to spread viruses. Therefore, the suits offer the same protection on their ships as they do in the outside world.


Not to mention that the ships seem filled with far more biological life than expected (during Tali's trial, the room where the hearing was held seemed 'walled' with plants.). An even more chance of virus/bacteria growth.


Okay then, so that's why they wear suits... Still doesn't explain why Tali requested a sterilization team when the Normandy docked. If they wear a suit all the time, none of that should matter. I mean, Tali her own self doesn't need one on the Normandy either.

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Quarian microbes pose no threat to quarians, that's why they have suck immune systems in the first place.

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Iwakura-Lain wrote...
Okay then, so that's why they wear suits... Still doesn't explain why Tali requested a sterilization team when the Normandy docked. If they wear a suit all the time, none of that should matter. I mean, Tali her own self doesn't need one on the Normandy either.


It was kinda explained in the 2nd book that it is to kill foriegn bacteria from entering the docking ship.  They should really be working on genetically building their immune systems then trying to take back their homeword.   They spend way too much time trying to find a way to kill the geth when they could be making other medical adavncements with the salarians.

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[Edit: If you know it's not Tali-related before you even post it, then you know you should be asking elsewhere. This is the thread for discussing Tali only. -- Pacifien]

Modifié par Pacifien, 16 octobre 2010 - 02:33 .


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AntenDS wrote...

Iwakura-Lain wrote...
Okay then, so that's why they wear suits... Still doesn't explain why Tali requested a sterilization team when the Normandy docked. If they wear a suit all the time, none of that should matter. I mean, Tali her own self doesn't need one on the Normandy either.


It was kinda explained in the 2nd book that it is to kill foriegn bacteria from entering the docking ship.  They should really be working on genetically building their immune systems then trying to take back their homeword.   They spend way too much time trying to find a way to kill the geth when they could be making other medical adavncements with the salarians.

Hmm. I guess I should really seek to acquire those books you mention. This stuff isn't on the wiki. :) Thanks,

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Iwakura-Lain wrote...

AntenDS wrote...

Iwakura-Lain wrote...
Okay then, so that's why they wear suits... Still doesn't explain why Tali requested a sterilization team when the Normandy docked. If they wear a suit all the time, none of that should matter. I mean, Tali her own self doesn't need one on the Normandy either.


It was kinda explained in the 2nd book that it is to kill foriegn bacteria from entering the docking ship.  They should really be working on genetically building their immune systems then trying to take back their homeword.   They spend way too much time trying to find a way to kill the geth when they could be making other medical adavncements with the salarians.

Hmm. I guess I should really seek to acquire those books you mention. This stuff isn't on the wiki. :) Thanks,


"hmm i meant the ship they are docking into"

But Tali is great and should get Mordin to help make a gene therapy that gives them a better imune system.  I wonder what the admiralty board will think when they know Legion is on board with Tali who just got "cleared" for treason.  Shep just went off on a wild tangent that didn't really clear her of any wrong doing.  He just used his charm to throw them off.

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AntenDS wrote...

Iwakura-Lain wrote...
Okay then, so that's why they wear suits... Still doesn't explain why Tali requested a sterilization team when the Normandy docked. If they wear a suit all the time, none of that should matter. I mean, Tali her own self doesn't need one on the Normandy either.


It was kinda explained in the 2nd book that it is to kill foriegn bacteria from entering the docking ship.  They should really be working on genetically building their immune systems then trying to take back their homeword.   They spend way too much time trying to find a way to kill the geth when they could be making other medical adavncements with the salarians.

SECURITY and QUARANTINE team. The idea is that if you don't request said team, they figure you've got something to hide. She said nothing about a "sterilization team".
On a side note: Quarantine... Quarian... hmmm...

Modifié par LTAshler, 16 octobre 2010 - 03:23 .


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[quote]sergio71785 wrote...
That's gotta be one of the worst bits of reasoning I've ever seen in my life. I genuinely feel overwhelmed, trying to come up with why it's wrong. :P

Okay, you mention food. Turians and quarians both have the same amino acid chirality, which is why they supposedly can eat some some of the same food. (Let's ignore the fact that food has nothing to do with the appearance of a species).

Here's the thing with amino-acid chirality. It doesn't mean anything. In a super simple explanation, it means that at the molecular level, their molecules have the carbon atom 'facing' the opposite direction.

This means absolutely nothing in the big picture. You could theoretically have a human, who looks and functions the same as any other human, with dextro chirality.

Consider this. Humans, salarians, krogan, asari, and every animal on this planet are levo-chirality. Yet the differences are near infinite.

Chirality is esentially irrelevent. Quarians have no more in common with a turian than humans have with a krogan.
[/quote]Chirality is not irrelevant. A mixture of left and right handed amino acids spells death for the organism in question. When we die, our bodies break down from all left-handed amino acids to 50% left, 50% right. Chirality DEFINITELY matters. As to it affecting appearance, we share roughly 52% of our genes with bananas and I have yet to see one of those walk down main street. So, no, Anten's 'argument' still holds no water.


[quote]AntenDS wrote...

Hmm. I guess I should really seek to acquire those books you mention. This stuff isn't on the wiki. :) Thanks,[/quote]

"hmm i meant the ship they are docking into"

But Tali is great and should get Mordin to help make a gene therapy that gives them a better imune system.  I wonder what the admiralty board will think when they know Legion is on board with Tali who just got "cleared" for treason.  Shep just went off on a wild tangent that didn't really clear her of any wrong doing.  He just used his charm to throw them off.

[/quote]

They knew she was innocent, Shep just told them where to stuff it.

Modifié par LTAshler, 16 octobre 2010 - 03:37 .


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LTAshler wrote...
Chirality is not irrelevant. A mixture of left and right handed amino acids spells death for the organism in question. When we die, our bodies break down from all left-handed amino acids to 50% left, 50% right. Chirality DEFINITELY matters. As to it affecting appearance, we share roughly 52% of our genes with bananas and I have yet to see one of those walk down main street. So, no, Anten's 'argument' still holds no water.


The context of my "chirality is irrelevant" was purely in regards to the appearance of a race. I figured that was understood since that's all that was being talked about. :P

Modifié par sergio71785, 16 octobre 2010 - 03:37 .


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Too bad none of this is real I was looking into chirality and now I wonder what would happen if some love sick human tried to make a reverse chirality Quarian. Could end up with a monster... a sexy, sexy, monster.

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LTAshler wrote...

Chirality is not irrelevant. A mixture of left and right handed amino acids spells death for the organism in question. When we die, our bodies break down from all left-handed amino acids to 50% left, 50% right. Chirality DEFINITELY matters.



I'm sorry; I don't wish to interrupt, but unless I've mistaken the context, you've said that mixing substances of different chirality is toxic? In particular, it sounds like you're alluding to racemates-- Am I following you?

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AntenDS wrote...

"hmm i meant the ship they are docking into"

But Tali is great and should get Mordin to help make a gene therapy that gives them a better imune system.  I wonder what the admiralty board will think when they know Legion is on board with Tali who just got "cleared" for treason.  Shep just went off on a wild tangent that didn't really clear her of any wrong doing.  He just used his charm to throw them off.


Considering Sovereign also referred to themselves as "We are legion," the Admiralty might raise an eyebrow or two at Tali being onboard with Legion.

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Hey guys :)



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The_Numerator wrote...

LTAshler wrote...

Chirality is not irrelevant. A mixture of left and right handed amino acids spells death for the organism in question. When we die, our bodies break down from all left-handed amino acids to 50% left, 50% right. Chirality DEFINITELY matters.



I'm sorry; I don't wish to interrupt, but unless I've mistaken the context, you've said that mixing substances of different chirality is toxic? In particular, it sounds like you're alluding to racemates-- Am I following you?


That contradicts what I've heard.  Ingesting protiens of the wrong chirality will most likely result in nothing.  The body simply cannot make use of it, so it just goes out the other end.

And why would they mix to 50% left and 50% right?  Bacteria are still in there, and like all other life on Earth, they're levo, right?  Why don't they die off en masse?

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Nice pic LexRage, That i like! :)

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I think that's the best representation of Tali ( maybe better without the eyebrows ? ) :]

I really like it too.

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That is rather good Lexrage

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MadCat221 wrote...

The_Numerator wrote...

LTAshler wrote...

Chirality is not irrelevant. A mixture of left and right handed amino acids spells death for the organism in question. When we die, our bodies break down from all left-handed amino acids to 50% left, 50% right. Chirality DEFINITELY matters.



I'm sorry; I don't wish to interrupt, but unless I've mistaken the context, you've said that mixing substances of different chirality is toxic? In particular, it sounds like you're alluding to racemates-- Am I following you?


That contradicts what I've heard.  Ingesting protiens of the wrong chirality will most likely result in nothing.  The body simply cannot make use of it, so it just goes out the other end.

And why would they mix to 50% left and 50% right?  Bacteria are still in there, and like all other life on Earth, they're levo, right?  Why don't they die off en masse?


Medicines can be mixtures of two chiral molecules as well.