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[InHarmsWay]

Aedan_Cousland wrote...

I didn't romance Tali with my canon Shep, but I'll be glad if she returns as a squadmate. I just don't think it is likely. Actually I'd love to see all of the original ME3 squadmates return, minus the one that died on Virmire.

ME2: You must recruit the best of the best. These people are unrivaled in skill and technical abilties.

ME3: You must recruit a new team with none of the members from the past two games.

And this is the kind of logic that makes me know that they'll return as squadmates in ME3.

[PseudoEthnic]

The people who say that none of the ME2 squadmates are returning are the same people who say that the Collector Base is the End All/Be All decision of the series. Wait what?!

[Spectre_907]

If Tali is exiled, I do not see how she can not return as a squadmate in ME3. She has no where else to go. Unless Liara recruits her as an agent for the Shadow Broker it wouldn't make sense to sidline her. It seems plausible if Tali is exonerated with or without the evidence in her trial.

Modifié par Spectre_907, 18 octobre 2010 - 05:11 .

[Alexander TM]

Spectre_907 wrote...

If Tali is exiled, I do not see how she can not return as a squadmate in ME3. She has no where else to go. Unless Liara recruits her as an agent for the Shadow Broker it wouldn't make sense to sidline her. It seems plausible if Tali is exonerated with or without the evidence in her trial.

Interesting point. I hope that she returns regardless of if you had her exiled or not.

[Aedan_Cousland]

PseudoEthnic wrote...

The people who say that none of the ME2 squadmates are returning are the same people who say that the Collector Base is the End All/Be All decision of the series. Wait what?!

Ummm, no.

I didn't say none of the ME1 or ME2 squadmates will return. I think a handful will as squadmates, with the rest playing a similar role as Wrex, Liara and the Virmire survivor played in ME2. I also don't think the Collector Base descision is the end all/be all, but I'm not even sure what that has to do with this discussion.

[protoshepard]

Cool...I was not about to read through 215 pages so I read the first twenty, gave up, and read the last three. I think that a lot of the points here are valid, but my opinion is,

One: Tali may or may not be exiled, and the exile means that she has no where other than the Normandy left.

Two: Why would Bioware remove a squad that you spent the whole game recruiting and gaining their loyalty, as has previously been stated.

Three: It is obvious with what you are saying about LotSB, that certain squad members will not return, have not downloaded or played it yet.

[xlavaina]

I think there are a few characters that will be plot integral for ME3 and therefore will stick around. Liara seems the most prominent of examples at the moment, as she's definitely being setup as the new information broker for Shep. It is difficult to predict whether or not Tali will return. Bioware could either remove all characters or keep all characters. However, from the ending of ME2, it seems that they're all going to stick around. There just doesn't seem any logical reason for them to go, considering they're all intelligent enough to realize the seriousness of the Reaper threat.

[protoshepard]

the only reason for them to leave would be to rally the troops, and my guess is that would be the first half of the game

[MadCat221]

Tali will be back, folks. She is Tali'Zorah Vas Normandy. Even if she was exonerated. She may leave if you blew the lid on her father's misdeeds, but if you obfuscated/extricated yourself out of that sadistic choice, then she will definitely be back, either because she has nowhere else to go, or because Shep stuck his/her neck out really far to help her.

And especially if Shep's her lover.

Modifié par MadCat221, 19 octobre 2010 - 05:45 .

[GuardianAngel470]

Spectre_907 wrote...

If Tali is exiled, I do not see how she can not return as a squadmate in ME3. She has no where else to go. Unless Liara recruits her as an agent for the Shadow Broker it wouldn't make sense to sidline her. It seems plausible if Tali is exonerated with or without the evidence in her trial.

I would disagree. She told us directly that saving the galaxy would not be enough to complete her Pilgrimage yet it clearly is come ME2. 

[GuardianAngel470]

 Also, I wrote a fan fiction. It doesn't really feature Tali, it is mainly about Garrus, but last time there were enough people who like my story that I figured I'd present it to you here:

Yup, I came up with another fiction at the time that I return to the forums.

For those of you that remember, my last fiction was release as I took an indefinite (which turned out to be a 6 month) break.

Chapter one:social.bioware.com/1438494/blog/10563/

Chapter Two:social.bioware.com/1438494/blog/10564/
 
Chapter Three:social.bioware.com/1438494/blog/10565/

Chapter Four:http://social.bioware.com/1438494/blog/10566/

Chapter Five:http://social.bioware.com/1438494/blog/10567/

Chapter Six:http://social.bioware.com/1438494/blog/10568/

Chapter Seven:http://social.bioware.com/1438494/blog/10569/

Chapter Eight:http://social.bioware.com/1438494/blog/10570/

Chapter Nine:http://social.bioware.com/1438494/blog/10572/

Chapter Ten:http://social.bioware.com/1438494/blog/10573/

Epilogue:http://social.biowar...494/blog/10574/

[GuardianAngel470]

xlavaina wrote...

I think there are a few characters that will be plot integral for ME3 and therefore will stick around. Liara seems the most prominent of examples at the moment, as she's definitely being setup as the new information broker for Shep. It is difficult to predict whether or not Tali will return. Bioware could either remove all characters or keep all characters. However, from the ending of ME2, it seems that they're all going to stick around. There just doesn't seem any logical reason for them to go, considering they're all intelligent enough to realize the seriousness of the Reaper threat.

I figure since it is considerably easier for everyone to survive than it is for them to die they will all be back.

[Shadowomega23]

I got a feeling all the crew will be back along side the VS. Rex and Liara are likely to be back but in the role of support with perks maybe. ME2 is kind of like act 3 of NW2 building up of the forces before the big invasion to come. Though I would love to see a couple new squadies that are customizable characters.

[protoshepard]

Shadowomega23 wrote...

I got a feeling all the crew will be back along side the VS. Rex and Liara are likely to be back but in the role of support with perks maybe. ME2 is kind of like act 3 of NW2 building up of the forces before the big invasion to come. Though I would love to see a couple new squadies that are customizable characters.

This is what I was thinking. It wouldn't make sense to recruit a new crew, so the third would probably have the same crew and a rally your allies against the impending mutual threat theme.

Modifié par protoshepard, 19 octobre 2010 - 09:31 .

[General Douchington]

MadCat221 wrote...

She may leave if you blew the lid on her father's misdeeds

Doing that means you fail the loyalty mission, and she doesn't become loyal.

And well... come time for the suicide mission, well, you know...

[Eldareus]

I think there was a poll about a week ago which asked the question if you could have only one squadmate return for ME3 who would you choose. Tali and Garrus were blowing away all the other choices. It's clear that Tali and Garrus are the most popular characters in the ME universe and Bioware is smart enough not to ****** off their fanbase. I can't see Bioware giving the cameo treatment to Tali and Garrus. Besides the whole Geth/Quarian war needs some type of resolution and who better than Tali to have this storyline revolve around. Plus what Tali fan doesn't want to see the big fat payoff of escorting Tali back to Rannoch.

[Volrath937]

mrsph wrote...

Tali can survive the Suicide Mission if she isn't loyal. It just requires a little guesswork.

So in ME3, we could theoretically have the following for Tali:
Loyal, romanced,alive.
Loyal, not romanced, alive.
Unloyal because of handing in evidence, not romanced, alive.
Unloyal because of Legion, not romanced, alive. 
Dead. 

That's not too many scenarios to account for. If she's dead, a few lines of dialogue with Shala or something would be enough. A distinction between the two reasons for not being loyal would need to be made, there could be major ramifications for the Geth War. Same with L.N.R.A. Ideally her romance continuation would be the most fleshed out path, it's been shown repeatedly that she's a very popular romance option, among the internet crowd at least. 

[Overmind50]

Volrath937 wrote...
So in ME3, we could theoretically have the following for Tali:
Loyal, romanced,alive.
Loyal, not romanced, alive.
Unloyal because of handing in evidence, not romanced, alive.
Unloyal because of Legion, not romanced, alive. 
Dead. 

That's not too many scenarios to account for. If she's dead, a few lines of dialogue with Shala or something would be enough. A distinction between the two reasons for not being loyal would need to be made, there could be major ramifications for the Geth War. Same with L.N.R.A. Ideally her romance continuation would be the most fleshed out path, it's been shown repeatedly that she's a very popular romance option, among the internet crowd at least. 

And even simplier - If she was unloyal, but survives during suicide mission - in ME3 she could transform to "Loyal, not romanced, alive" state (something like consequences of revealing of geth data to her in ME1).  

[FsDxRAGE]

Why would one not want her loyal in the first place?

[GuardianAngel470]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

Why would one not want her loyal in the first place?

Because providing the Admiralty board with the evidence furthers the long term goal of peace with the Geth?

I never did it myself, the one time I couldn't persuade I got her exiled.

[protoshepard]

General Douchington wrote...

MadCat221 wrote...

She may leave if you blew the lid on her father's misdeeds

Doing that means you fail the loyalty mission, and she doesn't become loyal.

And well... come time for the suicide mission, well, you know...

I blew the secret and she became loyal to me. It is all in how you do it. Plus, if she is alive, then there is a better chance of the war being stopped. With Tali and Legion, you can have each be a diplomat and with that you have the prevention of a war that would be pointless

[PseudoEthnic]

Aedan_Cousland wrote...

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My post wasn't directed at you, dude.

[LTAshler]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Spectre_907 wrote...

If Tali is exiled, I do not see how she can not return as a squadmate in ME3. She has no where else to go. Unless Liara recruits her as an agent for the Shadow Broker it wouldn't make sense to sidline her. It seems plausible if Tali is exonerated with or without the evidence in her trial.

I would disagree. She told us directly that saving the galaxy would not be enough to complete her Pilgrimage yet it clearly is come ME2. 

No, it was enough to get her exonerated, her pilgrimage was already complete.

[GuardianAngel470]

LTAshler wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Spectre_907 wrote...

If Tali is exiled, I do not see how she can not return as a squadmate in ME3. She has no where else to go. Unless Liara recruits her as an agent for the Shadow Broker it wouldn't make sense to sidline her. It seems plausible if Tali is exonerated with or without the evidence in her trial.

I would disagree. She told us directly that saving the galaxy would not be enough to complete her Pilgrimage yet it clearly is come ME2. 

No, it was enough to get her exonerated, her pilgrimage was already complete.

Did you do the Geth incursion missions? Because those were clearly meant to help her complete it and when you talk to her, she says that she hasn't completed it yet.