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Grunt's comment could be that Quarians are tougher themselves or could be referring to the suit, or both. I wouldn't doubt though that whats-his-face - Grunt's "father" - would not care enough to make the distinction between the suit and the body, since it matters little. Suits are still vulnerable to small arms fire anyway.

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Okeer is the name you're looking for.

A part of me want's to think that line was put in by his assistant part of me want's to blame bioware.

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Okeer was most likely referring to the cybernetics quarians have. Tali's specialization mentions 'modest' cybernetics gives her a boost to health, etc. Overall it probably makes her a bit tougher than she would be without them. Implants similar to what Shepard has, not to his extent though I would guess.

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Weiser_Cain wrote...
Pirates like easy targets, a ginormous fleet of pathologically loyal drifters seems like a bad target to me.
Remember, Quarians need to use a code to even get close to the fleet.

Except that we've got referenced instances of pirate attacks, like the would-be exile Tali mentioned, or the skirmish Han'Gerrel talks about.

Anyway, 51,000 ships get spread out.  The Flotilla in ME2 is spread out over a couple systems according to Kar'Danna, I think.

Pirates aren't going to be able to threaten the core of the fleet, the Liveships, or the quarian way of life in general.  But that's small comfort to any straggling ship they manage to cut out and run down.

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

Weiser_Cain wrote...
Pirates like easy targets, a ginormous fleet of pathologically loyal drifters seems like a bad target to me.
Remember, Quarians need to use a code to even get close to the fleet.

Except that we've got referenced instances of pirate attacks, like the would-be exile Tali mentioned, or the skirmish Han'Gerrel talks about.

Anyway, 51,000 ships get spread out.  The Flotilla in ME2 is spread out over a couple systems according to Kar'Danna, I think.

Pirates aren't going to be able to threaten the core of the fleet, the Liveships, or the quarian way of life in general.  But that's small comfort to any straggling ship they manage to cut out and run down.

The only kind of ships that can threaten the Liveships are stealth ships. 1 stealth ship and bye bye Flotilla.

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The quarians just aren't worth attacking for the most part. What would be the benefit?

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Their ships

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CptSkull wrote...

Their ships


That's a bit like attacking an army because you'd realy like to have their tanks... 

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Turns out Tali's facial structure hasn't changed at all, from ME1 to ME2...
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A lot of people claim Tali's face changed from ME1 to ME2 (usually saying that her nose was much bigger), this is not the case however.
The quarian with the brown/black cloth is a default quarian model, which uses the same placeholder as Tali's in ME2, save for the fact that Tali's lacks a jaw. As shown by these pics Troodon80 did:
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(And discernible in the rest of the pics in my blog entry about the placeholder faces)

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Thundertactics wrote...

Turns out Tali's facial structure hasn't changed at all, from ME1 to ME2...

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A lot of people claim Tali's face changed from ME1 to ME2 (usually saying that her nose was much bigger), this is not the case however.
The quarian with the brown/black cloth is a default quarian model, which uses the same placeholder as Tali's in ME2, save for the fact that Tali's lacks a jaw. As shown by these pics Troodon80 did:

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I can just envision the BioWare devs laughing themselves stupid, at the fact that quite a few people thought that Tali's nose was bigger, but with BioWare themselves knowing full well that it wasn't...

Or, someone over there was saying, "Really...? What the heck...? Hmm... 'Oi, someone go and check Tali's model, one of the fans' says her nose is bigger than in the previous game." Then getting a good laugh when they find out it isn't...

I'd be thinking the former rather than the latter...

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mrsph wrote...
The quarians just aren't worth attacking for the most part. What would be the benefit?

Well, we know from Tuchanka and Ilium that quarian slaves are valuable, even considering their overhead costs.  Especially unscrupulous types probably wouldn't mind essentially "disposable" slaves either.  Additionally, quarians have everything they need to survive right there with them.  They're hauling a treasure trove of refined and unrefined raw materials.

Then, of course, there are ships.

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LordPennlocke wrote...

Okeer was most likely referring to the cybernetics quarians have. Tali's specialization mentions 'modest' cybernetics gives her a boost to health, etc. Overall it probably makes her a bit tougher than she would be without them. Implants similar to what Shepard has, not to his extent though I would guess.

I'm not sure about that. The way Grunt says it, it sounds like he's referring to the density of the actual physical matter that he's stabbing.

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Well I could full well see that for the turians, but since we don't know much about their (quarians) exact physical traits, only guesswork can be made.



Tali's skin would be very soft and sensitive from all those years under a suit. Only Shepard really knows ;)

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Collider wrote...

Grunt's comment could be that Quarians are tougher themselves or could be referring to the suit, or both. I wouldn't doubt though that whats-his-face - Grunt's "father" - would not care enough to make the distinction between the suit and the body, since it matters little. Suits are still vulnerable to small arms fire anyway.


I can't find myself any good idea to back that up, that Grunt is saying that Quarians are tougher because of a clothing. With that logic, it would go to say, that Shepard is one, tough son of a gun when he/she is wearing that combat armor.
Besides, Okeer and other warlords were living before the Morning War, thus they would eventually have intel on quarian biology.

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"Humans, Asari, all weak. Quarians, not so much"



That does not necessarily mean skin strength. He is probably referring to them as a whole, not just one single part of their being.

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XX55XX Wrote "Do you think that Tali will undergo any sort of dramatic character change, like Liara did? Will the geth/quarian conflict have an impact on how to she views herself? Shepard? The geth? The quarians?"



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She does have alot of things to effect her, her father's death, meeting Legion, but she also has Shep ( friend or LI wise) to keep her stable I really hope in 3 they don't do a 180 with her personality I love her how she is right now in 2 she's stronger then she was in 1 but not in a Liara quick turn type of way BW has done a great job with gentle progression with her personality I think where she is in 2 she should start in 3 but lets say the Quarian conflict comes up if you handled it well between her and legion she'll be anxious but trusting you if you didn't she'll be upset I think as 3 leads on she'll slowly personality wise change weather its good or bad depends on the player and how they treat her.



As far as data sharing with Legion I'm proud of her just as I was proud to see her on Freedom's Progress with her own team it was a surprise but after a moment a pleasant one the first thing I thought was , " Wow, Tali you really grew up. You've got you're own team...two years have passed." I was worried after that moment I'd never see her again but when the call for Hastrom came up I jumped right on it I don't know what trouble she's going to get herself into for 3 but I could bet she's going to if she needs the help my shep's there same with Garrus too.



Maybe for 3 Tali can build from scavenged parts kick ass mechs for us to use in the final battle?



I'd also like LI mission dealing with Tali if you romance her as part of the story arch the flotilla asks you to prove your loyalty to the fleet and do a multi level quest most likely involving you going to Quarian worlds with heavy heretic geth defenses and doing things there if you do well they'll let you be with Tali and you gain their support in the war if not then you may still be with Tali they won't like it but you also won't get their support for the war and if they do Rannoch negotiations they may fall through too.



Also they've got to go to Rannoch we've got to get it back I not only want to see Tali outside the suit but it would develop the friend/love relationship players have with Tali as she would be out of suit and you'd be in plus a cool world to explore!


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 So, This is my first post ever on this forum. And also my first bit of fan art for Mass Effect. This one was just a 10 minute warm-up sketch.

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Spartanburger wrote...

"Humans, Asari, all weak. Quarians, not so much"

That does not necessarily mean skin strength. He is probably referring to them as a whole, not just one single part of their being.


I'd almost expect the Krogan, who respect survival against long odds, and have a history of being kicked, to respect the Quarians for surviving what they have and dealing with the prejudices they face.

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Cpt Kelly wrote...

 So, This is my first post ever on this forum. And also my first bit of fan art for Mass Effect. This one was just a 10 minute warm-up sketch.

Very nice! I hope you'll contribute more in the future!
And welcome.

#5745
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Cpt Kelly wrote...

 So, This is my first post ever on this forum. And also my first bit of fan art for Mass Effect. This one was just a 10 minute warm-up sketch.

*snip*


10 minutes? Only 10 minutes to create something that awesome? 
I'm almost afraid of asking what something that took an hour to make looks like for fear of causing my eyes to implode.


And so, whether you are here to stay, or passing through on your way to parts unknown, welcome to BSN.

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Iwakura-Lain wrote...

The thing is this: I'm talking about the kink in the Fibula (or, perhaps better, the backside of what may be part of a single Tibia):


Late to the conversation, but perhaps she just has very strong calf muscles?  On an already curved leg that would produce a similar looking bulge.

#5747
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Well there does have to be a muscle right there.

#5748
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Spartanburger wrote...

Cpt Kelly wrote...

 So, This is my first post ever on this forum. And also my first bit of fan art for Mass Effect. This one was just a 10 minute warm-up sketch.

*snip*


10 minutes? Only 10 minutes to create something that awesome? 
I'm almost afraid of asking what something that took an hour to make looks like for fear of causing my eyes to implode.


Okay, I'm gonna risk it... What does something that took an hour to make look like? :) That was incredibly shiny work for only 10 minutes!

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Alright Talimancers, since I didn't know where this should've gone, I'll just put it here. I just want to ask, mature adult to mature adult, do any of you support/engage in trolling other LIs? Because everywhere I look on Youtube, there are Tali-fanboys trolling videos left, right and centre. And it's almost all tali-fanboys, believe me. Apparently, highly respected members of your fanclub such as skytop082 and narania234 are among the worst, most virulent trolls, which makes me wonder if you guys are encouraging the trolls or engaging in trolling yourselves. The most disturbing part is that many of them (the 2 above members included) fantasise about killing off other LIs and constantly go onto the videos of other LIs to trash-talk the other fanbases consistently, and they usually make dozens of racial slurs and derogatory comments about the parentage of the fans of other LIs.



Also, their constant vomitting of incorrect and very inflammatory comments are upsetting other fanbases. Do you people have any way of trying to tell them to stop? Seeing that you are all of the same fanbase, it might be easier to talk to these trolls. Because seriously guys, it's just damned irritating to find that those trolls have struck again. I'd like to thank you mature Tali-fanboys who don't troll and took the time to read and reply to this like mature, civilised people. Goodnight.

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