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[Alienmorph]

Nice work Z', it's always good to see other fans of Tali... more that we are, better that is ^^

Also, thanks for the comment about the teaser. Yes, the downer legs probably will be my damnation... I'll try to improve them a bit with Photoshop, even I'd preferred to made them well since the beginning

EDIT: fiiiiiuuu... I did it, the lower legs are more curved and I also fixed a bit the head's shape. But the new version will be only for my eyes, until complention ^^

Modifié par Alienmorph, 23 novembre 2010 - 03:53 .

[durdan988]

Tali was the best female character by far in ME. The other ones i didnt think were nearly as well done.

[TheNexus]

Originally I was going to keep Ash as the LI on my main run through, but I thought what they did to her for ME2 (and Liara, although Shadow Broker kind of made up for it) was really crappy for people who wanted to keep her, and the fact that cheating on her would make stuff hit the fan in ME3.



From that point on I decided to keep Tali as the LI on my main. Really, if you think about it, she is the most logical (and best) choice. If you're going with the default Shepard, he's a soldier. She's an engineer, so she'll always be compatible in your 3 man group. You meet her very early on in the game and she is, essentially, the link that lets you pursue Saren. She is always open to talking to you about her culture and very humble and thankful for being on your crew. She decides to join Shep in ME2, despite her hatred for Cerebus and Legion, whom she eventually tries to compromise with a bit (at least on the Paragon path, don't know Renegade). Quarian compromise with a geth? That takes a special kind of person.



And there is, of course, the mystery of what's behind that mask. Without trying to light this topic on fire about this incredibly dead horse, all signs have pointed to Bioware showing her face (possibly the rest of her body, as well) in ME3. Quarians don't get their suits till adolescence, but you see none on the Flotilla. Dead Quarians are always fully clothed, even when shot at point blank range (beginning of ME2). Constant snipits of dialogue all around the Mass Effect world about what Quarians look like. And, of course, the love scene at the end of ME2, which was Bioware basically saying "HAH! We know what you're thinking, and you'll just have to wait".



I don't buy the "they'll never show it so as to not let people down" argument. They've played around with the idea of it all throughout both games. Having that not come to fruition at the last installment would be an enormous disappointment. No way around that.

[Runescapeguy9]

TheNexus wrote...
I don't buy the "they'll never show it so as to not let people down" argument. They've played around with the idea of it all throughout both games. Having that not come to fruition at the last installment would be an enormous disappointment. No way around that.

Agreed wholeheartedly.

Oh, new stuff from DA this morning.

Modifié par Runescapeguy9, 24 novembre 2010 - 10:38 .

[durdan988]

How do you guys think cheating on your ME1 LI in ME2 will effect the next game?

[Runescapeguy9]

durdan988 wrote...

How do you guys think cheating on your ME1 LI in ME2 will effect the next game?

Don't know, don't really care. Never had one.

[Crazyfulla]

i have a question... when is Tali's birthday? and how old is she?



(hang on a sec thats two questions)

[Runescapeguy9]

Crazyfulla wrote...

i have a question... when is Tali's birthday? and how old is she?

(hang on a sec thats two questions)

Don't have an exact date, but in ME2 she is 24.

[Dalcon09]

Runescapeguy9 wrote...

Oh, new stuff from DA this morning.

*SNIP*

i like the second pic more because it's just like Tali... cute

Modifié par Dalcon09, 24 novembre 2010 - 01:17 .

[protoshepard]

TheNexus wrote...

And there is, of course, the mystery of what's behind that mask. Without trying to light this topic on fire about this incredibly dead horse, all signs have pointed to Bioware showing her face (possibly the rest of her body, as well) in ME3. Quarians don't get their suits till adolescence, but you see none on the Flotilla. Dead Quarians are always fully clothed, even when shot at point blank range (beginning of ME2). Constant snipits of dialogue all around the Mass Effect world about what Quarians look like. And, of course, the love scene at the end of ME2, which was Bioware basically saying "HAH! We know what you're thinking, and you'll just have to wait".

I don't buy the "they'll never show it so as to not let people down" argument. They've played around with the idea of it all throughout both games. Having that not come to fruition at the last installment would be an enormous disappointment. No way around that.

Bungie did the same thing. I wouldn't be surprised if that was running through someone's head at BioWare right now. I mean, they always show the character's face and ruin the mystery and the illusion that you are the character, the case with all the Halo franchice, so why ruin the mystery that is wrapped around what Tali and the quarians look like tp us? I don't want that, but there must be someone right now who wants to keep the face a mystery and use said mystery in conjuction with the exotic voice to instead of showing the face. Speaking of the voice, Liz Sroka is officially my favorite voice actress.

[Thundertactics]

Whenever someone says they don't want BioWare to reveal Tali's face (or any quarian, for that matter) for the sake of "mystery" I feel like punching something.
Really, that's just shallow.

[TheNexus]

Bungie did the same thing. I wouldn't be surprised if that was running through someone's head at BioWare right now. I mean, they always show the character's face and ruin the mystery and the illusion that you are the character, the case with all the Halo franchice, so why ruin the mystery that is wrapped around what Tali and the quarians look like tp us? I don't want that, but there must be someone right now who wants to keep the face a mystery and use said mystery in conjuction with the exotic voice to instead of showing the face. Speaking of the voice, Liz Srorka is officially my favorite voice actress.

If they didn't want to reveal her face (or any Quarians face for that matter) then they shouldn't have teased the player so much about it throughout both games. If the love scene with Tali was just a fade to black scene and had nothing to do with her mask whatsoever, then yes, ok, they may not have wanted to reveal it (or didn't feel it was important to the story). If they had pieces of skin on dead Quarians revealed after being blown up, then yeah, they probably are nonchalant about the whole thing. But they have intentionally kept everything about Quarians a secret, we know 0 facts about what's under the mask and suit, just speculation. For them to have a scene where Tali says "I want you to see what's under this helmet" and then show it only to Shepard has sent a good portion of the Bioware community into hyperdrive about what she may look like in ME3. You don't start that kind of hype unless you can deliver in the final game.

And I don't buy the "they'll save what she looks like for future games" theory either. Starting this hype and then having to wait 5 years to see anything is just stupid and anticlimactic.

[Dalcon09]

Thundertactics wrote...

Whenever someone says they don't want BioWare to reveal Tali's face (or any quarian, for that matter) for the sake of "mystery" I feel like punching something.
Really, that's just shallow.

Alot of the people who say that are people who romanced Tali so they can imagine her as the hottest babe ever. those people do not truly love Tali. i wouldnt give half a S**T if Tali looked like a half lobster half predator creature, thats not why i love her. i love Tali for her personality... and that voice

[N085]

I agree Dalcon, It doesn't matter to me what she looks like, the personality drew me in and her voice

[Alienmorph]

Agreed me too. I'm a bit curious but I'd renounce happily to see Tali's face in change of BW officializes that she's in next game NOW.

Modifié par Alienmorph, 24 novembre 2010 - 08:32 .

[Runescapeguy9]

New from DA

[Collider]

Crazyfulla wrote...

i have a question... when is Tali's birthday? and how old is she?

(hang on a sec thats two questions)

Mass Effect Wiki timeline says 2161 CE. Jack's also the same age as Tali, which doesn't surprise me.

[Spartanburger]

I'd still like to see my idea of having it be the players choice weather or not you see her face or not. It would have not repercussions in the game or story at all. Just a simple 'Move camera position' option during a love scene or similar.



Kind of like the Asari strippers with the 'Lean Forward' and 'Relax' options.





But I do completely agree, It doesn't matter how good Tali looks. We love her for being herself. Not for what she looks like.









If you cheated on your ME1 LIm there will probably be a confrontation similar to the ones in ME2 between Tali and Legion. But I doubt there will be an option that when chosen will make both of them happy. The choices will be one or the other or just dumping them both. If they do a loyalty system, I wouldn't be surprised if it would be impossible to gain the rejected lovers loyalty. Gain their alliance probably, but not complete and utter loyalty.

Or maybe I'm overestimating the ability of the other person to see reason. Or Shepards ability to talk his way out of impossible and suicidal situations. Of course, it all depends on who your LI is. I'd hate to see someone cross jack. And I could never see Tali forgiving anyone.

[Shadowomega23]

Well lets see with the Ashley, she did pretty much Dump you on Horizon though she did hint in the message you recieved that she wants to get back together. (Maybe to truely find out your true loyalties are). As for Liara well she pretty much was cold to your charactor and infact she seems to have an emotial attachment to Feron. So it is likely they would be some understanding but likely bitterness and tension, at least primarly with say Ashley. (Got a feeling she isn't to keen on it) Though your ME2 LI might become worried about possibly being just a fling. Who knows, but just going to sit back and see what the Writes come up with.

Modifié par Shadowomega23, 25 novembre 2010 - 04:52 .

[protoshepard]

I never said I didn't want to see her face. Honestly, I would love to see her face. That was not what I was saying though. I was saying that it is not mandatory. I don't care how Tali looks either. I have said this before, but I am drawn to her character as a whole, not appearances. I mean appearances are nice and all, but the personality is what people should really be concerned about. Anyway, I was saying that even though they hinted at it, they did the same thing with the Master Chief in Halo and that went no where.

[Giggles_Manically]

I actually want to see Tali's face.



On the next note I can honestly see Ashley flipping out over Shepard moving on to Tali, she is not Liara and would take this badly. Add to the mix that Tali is an old friend thats not going over well. Still didnt stop my Colonial/Sole Survivor who hates the Alliance from moving on.



I will wait and see and hope that the next bridge DLC comes out soon.

[TheNexus]

protoshepard wrote...

I never said I didn't want to see her face. Honestly, I would love to see her face. That was not what I was saying though. I was saying that it is not mandatory. I don't care how Tali looks either. I have said this before, but I am drawn to her character as a whole, not appearances. I mean appearances are nice and all, but the personality is what people should really be concerned about. Anyway, I was saying that.even though they hinted at it, they did the same thing with the Master Chief in Halo and that went no where.

I can understand why Bungie doesn't take off Master Chief's helmet. It's the protagonist, aka the player. It's the same reason why Link will never speak in any Zelda game: they want the player to be connected to the protagonist in that way.

But we know that Master Chief is human, and we know what humans look like.

Tali is Quarian... that tells us nothing.

We know that she looks attractive in terms of her body shape. We can decipher a few things about her body and face based on what we hear in game and what Bioware tells us, but there is no firm image of what a Quarian is. How would it benefit Bioware not to show her face in ME3? So we, the player, can imagine what it is? What's the point? The Shepard story is over after ME3.

Bioware has an enormous opportunity. We have no preconceptions of what she looks like to go on. No matter what her face is, it will shock the majority of the playerbase.

To become emotionally attached with a character that has been by your side for 3 games and hundreds of hours of gameplay... and to then rediscover that character at the games finale would be an amazing experience for the player. It's a huge opportunity for Bioware that they shouldn't squander.

In short, it would be epic.

Modifié par TheNexus, 25 novembre 2010 - 05:49 .

[NuclearBuddha]

durdan988 wrote...
How do you guys think cheating on your ME1 LI in ME2 will effect the next game?

Lair of the Shadow Broker seemed to put that to rest in a reasonably smooth fashion.

[Collider]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

durdan988 wrote...
How do you guys think cheating on your ME1 LI in ME2 will effect the next game?

Lair of the Shadow Broker seemed to put that to rest in a reasonably smooth fashion.

Isn't it possible to romance Liara at the end of the LotSB even if you had an ME2 LI? I heard Someone With Mass did it, though I may have misheard or misinterpreted. Tali isn't going to be happy that Shepard cheated on her.

Modifié par Collider, 25 novembre 2010 - 09:17 .