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#6501
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In my canon playthrough, I assign Tali to the vents as my Shepard has the most faith in her technical & intellectual ability, as well as her drive to see the suicide mission succeed. For the same reason, she is taken to the human reaper as well. Mordin escorts the crew to safety.



Let's see. We've talked about Sidonis, and thus far the consensus seems to be that she'd think that Sidonis should be punished for misdeeds.



I would imagine just about the same about Jacob's father, perhaps even more so because he betrayed his ship crewmates.



For the genophage research data, I'd imagine keeping the data, but not recommending to Mordin to use it for a cure quite yet.

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Conveniently, the genophage data isn't close to being ready to make a cure yet.



I'm not sure what to do with Tali in my canon playthrough yet... in my first, I sent her into the vents and then brought her with me to the final boss (along with Mordin; this was a reload, after my first pick of Grunt and Samara had led to Mordin's death). In my second, I sent Legion into the vents and Tali escorted the crew back.

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About other decisions, though: I think that overall she'd enjoy helping people in need, but would react harshly to traitors, and possibly other criminals (I'm less positive about that, though). So something "paragade"-ish.

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In my canon I send her in the vents, for the same reasons of Collider, with Garrus covering her at the exit :I like the idea that she survives 'cause Garrus is motivated to save an old friend. Than I go with both ot them 'till the Human Reaper... they both followed me since the beginning, and I want only them with me at the end (possibly in ME3 too). Also it's just perfect having Shep saving Tali from fall with the Reaper, and then having her catching the Commander when he does the final jump.It always gave me the impression of desperately wants to save eachother, besides I know it's just a pre-compiled sequence that will happen even if they're not toghether. It's just a mind-trip that I do in my rhole plays ^^

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Xilizhra wrote...

About other decisions, though: I think that overall she'd enjoy helping people in need, but would react harshly to traitors, and possibly other criminals (I'm less positive about that, though). So something "paragade"-ish.

That sounds about right. Good analysis. I agree with it. The interesting thing is that Tali comes at about the middle of the paragon renegade scale in ME1 (with Kaidan being most paragon, Wrex more renegade), but she's easily the most paragon of the ME2 squad excepting possibly Jacob. I liked this in both games.

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Character development in-between games? I do wonder what caused it... maybe it was succeeding in her Pilgrimage and needing to take on more responsibility?

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Well, any good character needs development.

In general, all of the Mass Effect 1 squad mates went off on their own and progressed that way.



Garrus became a leader instead of a follower (and a buddy to Shepard instead of his/her "student"), Liara became head of her own information broker network, Kaidan and Ashley were both promoted in the Alliance, Wrex became leader of clan Urdnot.



And Tali rose through the ranks among the Migrant Fleet. She's become much more important, and was considered quite an asset by the Admiralty Board. Her progression in status is made more believable because she completed her pilgrimage, yes. No doubt her completing that rite of passage opened up new opportunities for her, including military service.

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In ME1 also she was still conditioned by what she learned by her people: after all they passed quarians seem to be natural diffident with the other races, at least a bit. So it was natural that a youngh quarian girl, out of Flotilla only from few months had a more greyish, pragmatic, personality.

Then it came Shepard. She learned from him the meaning of leadership and the will of trust and help other people (at least with Paragon Shep). So after his death and her return seemed natural that Tali tryied to apply what she learned in the time on the Normandy, becoming a more positive figure. Also... even Wrex would have looked more heroic compared to some of the new squadmates of ME2...

Modifié par Alienmorph, 20 décembre 2010 - 01:23 .


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Did anyone else find it kind of spiteful of Jacob when, after you recruit Tali,  tells her to say hello to EDI?

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I almost expected she shooted at him. C'mon... she spent the previous 5 minutes saying how much she hates and distrust Cerberus and then you talk about AIs too? To a quarian? S**t Jacob, you're a genius...

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#6511
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I laughed a bit there when I imagined her expression, admittedly.



But still, it wasn't nice of Jacob.

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Does anyone think Tali will be romance-able for femsheps in ME3? I've grown attached to her since my playthroughs of ME1 years ago, and was sad I couldn't romance her in ME2.



I don't want to replay ME1 and ME2 with a male character, because to me, Commander Shepard IS female. I hope bioware doesn't leave us femshep Tali fans in the dust...

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twilekaoi wrote...

Does anyone think Tali will be romance-able for femsheps in ME3? I've grown attached to her since my playthroughs of ME1 years ago, and was sad I couldn't romance her in ME2.

I don't want to replay ME1 and ME2 with a male character, because to me, Commander Shepard IS female. I hope bioware doesn't leave us femshep Tali fans in the dust...


Personally, to me, Tali is heterosexual. I think that is the interpretation that BioWare has given us, and that she will most likely remain heterosexual in ME3.

Don't intend to sound too harsh... but given that the sexual orientation of LIs is a sensitive subject to discuss, I personally feel that Tali should remain heterosexual. If she were to be made bisexual in ME3, then there will be that glaring inconsistency - why wasn't she bisexual in ME2?

I am not against LIs being bisexual or even homosexual, but I do not feel that BioWare should create inconsistencies in their games just to appease a certain band of the audience - but I do agree, there should be more meaningful platonic conversations with squadmates if a romance is not possible in ME3.

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Brodyaha wrote...

Did anyone else find it kind of spiteful of Jacob when, after you recruit Tali,  tells her to say hello to EDI?


She gave Jacob  the... "Tell me you didn't just say that" face.

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Xilizhra wrote...
I laughed a bit there when I imagined her expression, admittedly.
But still, it wasn't nice of Jacob.

A death glare from Tali erased all of Jacob's personality.

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Runescapeguy9 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...
I laughed a bit there when I imagined her expression, admittedly.
But still, it wasn't nice of Jacob.

A death glare from Tali erased all of Jacob's personality.


Hey... that's explains everything! :lol:

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Why am I now so fascinated by the idea of Tali being a Spectre... I'm just quite curious as to how things would go. Assuming that she was up for the job, of course...

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Xilizhra wrote...

Why am I now so fascinated by the idea of Tali being a Spectre... I'm just quite curious as to how things would go. Assuming that she was up for the job, of course...

Not sure Tali would make a very good spectre.

In other news, don't believe I posted this one from DA

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I don't think Tali would want to be a spectre; bringing law and order to the eight corners of Council space doesn't help the Migrant Fleet too much. The paycheck isn't that big either...

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BTG_01 wrote...

I don't think Tali would want to be a spectre; bringing law and order to the eight corners of Council space doesn't help the Migrant Fleet too much. The paycheck isn't that big either...

What if it raised the reputation of the quarians as a whole throughout the galaxy, similar to what Shepard could do?

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Xilizhra wrote...

BTG_01 wrote...

I don't think Tali would want to be a spectre; bringing law and order to the eight corners of Council space doesn't help the Migrant Fleet too much. The paycheck isn't that big either...

What if it raised the reputation of the quarians as a whole throughout the galaxy, similar to what Shepard could do?


I don't think Shepard being a spectre raised humanity's reputation, saving the Citadel from Sovereign did that. Also, the human embassy on the Citadel had to apply significant political pressure before Shepard became a spectre. The quarians don't even have an embassy. Although it would be cool to watch Tali deal out spectre justice, I don't think Tali or the Council really wants that.

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Fair enough, I suppose.

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Tali doesn't need to be a Spectre because she is under the direct protection of a Spectre. As long as she is in Shepards squad she essentially has the same power as Shepard. Not exactly the same but she could use the spectre card if it is needed (with verification of course)

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I'm surprised the possibility of spectrehood hasn't being mentioned for any of the squadmates aside from a conversation with Garrus in ME1. Although, given Shepard's history with the Council, they're probably not too eager to admit anyone close to Shep. Last thing they want is another spectre who buys into this whole "reaper" nonsense.

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Runescapeguy9 wrote...

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Edit: this is not mine. mine is still in the box waiting a frame.



thank you so much!!!, thank you thank you thank you :P. Hopefully they make a garrus one... unless I dont know and they already made one then pls if you have one :P I would like to have it.

Other than that... maybe mirandas..... wrex... and grunt... but with helmet on :P