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[Thundertactics]

Tranzmetal wrote...

I wonder what Tali will think of Earth? Hopefully Shepard will be able to save it in time so they can at least consider living there.

A home on Rannoch would be preferred...

[Alienmorph]

If ME3 will start after reapers' invasion (as it seems quite possible) I guess she'll do easily some parallels between the situation of humans and quarians... something like "So... this is what my ancestors felt seeying their worlds burn..." (I don't rember... I posted something like this previously? I have a deja-vu feeling...)

About settle her and Shep on earth... onestly I won't like it. And still Tali is totally loyal to her people, I see more plausible that Shepard follows her on Rannoch, if we'll retake the planet, or that they'll decide to find a place just for them, away from the suffers and the needs of their people. This, off course if we'll be able to give to them a chance to remain toghether after the war. That off course, I hope it will be possible.

Modifié par Alienmorph, 21 décembre 2010 - 11:21 .

[Tranzmetal]

Thundertactics wrote...

Tranzmetal wrote...

I wonder what Tali will think of Earth? Hopefully Shepard will be able to save it in time so they can at least consider living there.

A home on Rannoch would be preferred...

I agree. Earth would be too damaged from the Reaper attack and Tali could never leave her people. Lovely pic !!

[Collider]

A home on Rannoch would be preferred...

Not to mention that she could actually possibly live there without her suit. Even if she can't (for one reason or another), I'd think she'd want to help the rebuilding effort on Rannoch regardless, because as tranzmetal said, she could never leave her people.

[SomeKindaEnigma]

 To clear up what I said yesterday...  I was making use of sarcasm.  If Tali/Quarians end up not looking like what I expect, oh well big deal, kudos to Bioware for taking that fan-risk.  They kinda set themselves up to have to reveal her face; the player is supposed to feel as though they are Shepard and by Shepard seeing her face but hiding it from the player, that detracted from the overall experience (and also made the player feel less immersed in the game).  Most people pitched a fit over it, so it seems like Bioware is just about obligated to show her face in ME3 now.
Ultimately, Bioware should reveal Tali's face.  If it is actually somewhat similar to what I imagine I will be ecstatic.  If it's not, oh well, you can't always please everyone and Bioware still had the balls to reveal her face so I can't be mad at them about that 

[Tranzmetal]

Collider wrote...

A home on Rannoch would be preferred...

Not to mention that she could actually possibly live there without her suit. Even if she can't (for one reason or another), I'd think she'd want to help the rebuilding effort on Rannoch regardless, because as tranzmetal said, she could never leave her people.

Sadly Tali couldn't survive on Rannoch without her suit. Since Quarian immune systems are naturally weak plus damaged further from centuries of living on the Flotilla it would take years of gene therapy to adapt to Rannoch. Future generations could though.

[Runescapeguy9]

Tranzmetal wrote...
Sadly Tali couldn't survive on Rannoch without her suit. Since Quarian immune systems are naturally weak plus damaged further from centuries of living on the Flotilla it would take years of gene therapy to adapt to Rannoch. Future generations could though.

Nothing is more powerful than the plot. Their immune systems are designed differently, Tali's estimate to how long it would take with gene therapy could easily be wrong.

[Tranzmetal]

Runescapeguy9 wrote...

Tranzmetal wrote...
Sadly Tali couldn't survive on Rannoch without her suit. Since Quarian immune systems are naturally weak plus damaged further from centuries of living on the Flotilla it would take years of gene therapy to adapt to Rannoch. Future generations could though.

Nothing is more powerful than the plot. Their immune systems are designed differently, Tali's estimate to how long it would take with gene therapy could easily be wrong.

Maybe with the help of the Geth they can develop new technologies to help speed up the gene therapy recovery.

[Collider]

There's some pain in reclaiming the homeworld but not being able to reap the benefits. But Tali would like that they would be bringing hope for the next generations.

[Alienmorph]

Tranzmetal wrote...

Collider wrote...

A home on Rannoch would be preferred...

Not to mention that she could actually possibly live there without her suit. Even if she can't (for one reason or another), I'd think she'd want to help the rebuilding effort on Rannoch regardless, because as tranzmetal said, she could never leave her people.

Sadly Tali couldn't survive on Rannoch without her suit. Since Quarian immune systems are naturally weak plus damaged further from centuries of living on the Flotilla it would take years of gene therapy to adapt to Rannoch. Future generations could though.

In ME2 she says that quarians will needs generations to live again without suits, but in ME1 there was a dialogue about the fact that they didn't colonized other planets 'cause Rannoch was the only world that would allow them to live without suits (or something similar...). It's not a contraddiction... maybe they could live on the surface without suits, but they'll still be forced to wear them every time they need to leave the planet and/or interact with other races for generations. It's not fully clear what they can do after retaking the planet. But still, every thing they'll have to do will be better than spend other centuries in space becaming more and more fragile.

Modifié par Alienmorph, 22 décembre 2010 - 08:18 .

[Tranzmetal]

Well if the Quarians do take back Rannoch they would have to cannibalize most of the Flotilla to rebuild from the Morning War. Sadly they would lose a strong fleet but they would regain their homeworld. One thing is for certain if Tali could live on Rannoch without a suit indefinitely, then Shepard would do anything to retake it (in my canon of course ).

[Alienmorph]

But then probably will be Shepard that will have to live the rest of his life in a suit, 'cause by the dextro-biochemical structure of Rannoch's biosphere. But I guess it will totally worth it.

Modifié par Alienmorph, 22 décembre 2010 - 02:24 .

[Collider]

Alienmorph wrote...

But then probably will be Shepard that will have to live the rest of his life in a suit, 'cause by the dextro-biochemical structure of Rannoch's biosphere. But I guess it will totally worth it.

No doubt. Would, even, then, only be a small annoyance compared to what Tali had to deal with.

[Alienmorph]

Yes, Shep simply will need food surveys and a protected place where live, but he won't risk die or get seriously sick every time he puts the suit off, like Tali does.

Modifié par Alienmorph, 22 décembre 2010 - 02:35 .

[Killjoy Cutter]

The general issue I have with the "bi-Tali" is the same issue I have with the way that most of the characters seem to be "there for the choosing" and of course they're almost all interested in Shep (I bet that the DLC characters would have been, too, had they been in the full game). One of the things that I like about Samara is that she turns Shep down. It's as if the NPCs aren't really fully developed characters, but rather there to be molded to the players' preferences.



I'll have to go back and find the link that covers exactly what was actually cut from the final game (unused dialogue, whatever).

[Collider]

Tranzmetal wrote...

Well if the Quarians do take back Rannoch they would have to cannibalize most of the Flotilla to rebuild from the Morning War. Sadly they would lose a strong fleet but they would regain their homeworld. One thing is for certain if Tali could live on Rannoch without a suit indefinitely, then Shepard would do anything to retake it (in my canon of course ).

If all goes well, Shepard (and the quarians) will have convinced the Council that the quarians are worth protecting and helping. That would be quite satisfying.

[Tranzmetal]

Collider wrote...

Tranzmetal wrote...

Well if the Quarians do take back Rannoch they would have to cannibalize most of the Flotilla to rebuild from the Morning War. Sadly they would lose a strong fleet but they would regain their homeworld. One thing is for certain if Tali could live on Rannoch without a suit indefinitely, then Shepard would do anything to retake it (in my canon of course ).

If all goes well, Shepard (and the quarians) will have convinced the Council that the quarians are worth protecting and helping. That would be quite satisfying.

Well let's run down the list
Tali helped expose Saren
Veetor helped expose the Collectors
Quarians make peace with Geth
Quarians retake Rannoch
Flotilla aids in fight against the Reapers
The least the Council can do is offer the Quarians an embassy.

[Collider]

The least the Council can do is offer the Quarians an embassy.

They damn better.

[Alienmorph]

The least that Council can do is doing nothing. Like they did after Shepard saved their a**es. I don't expect that quarians will receive any kind of help or appreciation... but luckly there's Shepard and they're enough strong and smart to do it on their own.

[The Unfallen]

Tali = my favorite Quarian.!



Don't ****** her off! She'll kick your ass, you boshtet!

http://fc00.devianta...by_johntesh.jpg (Linked cuz its huge.)

[Napalm Jim]

Alienmorph wrote...

But then probably will be Shepard that will have to live the rest of his life in a suit, 'cause by the dextro-biochemical structure of Rannoch's biosphere. But I guess it will totally worth it.

I'm not so sure that this would be necessary.  Turians don't seem to have any problems in non-dextro environments and I remember Erinya on Illium talking about how her bondmate had been living on the quarian homeworld.  It's possible that asari were in suits all the time there, but I'm kinda doubting it since Haestrom was a former quarian colony and Shep could run about helmetless there without any trouble.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Whether someone needs a sealed suit in a particular situation or not is entirely up to the whims of the writer of the moment, unfortunately.

[Collider]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Whether someone needs a sealed suit in a particular situation or not is entirely up to the whims of the writer of the moment, unfortunately.

Yes, basically. They can invent biological parameters on the go for convenience.

I think the greatest danger to Shepard on Rannoch would be all of the pollen/insects etc floating around freely as Tali seemed to have implied.

[Alienmorph]

Napalm Jim wrote...

Alienmorph wrote...

But then probably will be Shepard that will have to live the rest of his life in a suit, 'cause by the dextro-biochemical structure of Rannoch's biosphere. But I guess it will totally worth it.

I'm not so sure that this would be necessary.  Turians don't seem to have any problems in non-dextro environments and I remember Erinya on Illium talking about how her bondmate had been living on the quarian homeworld.  It's possible that asari were in suits all the time there, but I'm kinda doubting it since Haestrom was a former quarian colony and Shep could run about helmetless there without any trouble.

The problem is not Shepard himself but the other Rannoch's inhabitants: even if quarians will be able to live suitless they'll have to keep the planet surface uncontamined. Having Shepard moving around and interacting with other quarians that didn't adapted themselves to him like Tali is going to do might have bad consequences. Also, this will be the same for any other alien that cames on the planet. In fact, probably Rannoch will have to be considered an under quarantine planet for generations after the resettlement, until quarian's immunodeficency will be solved. Turians especially, will must be taken as far as possible, to avoid the spread of epidemics.

And also there are pollen and other aerial contaminants that can be risky for Shepard, like Collider says.

Modifié par Alienmorph, 22 décembre 2010 - 05:49 .

[ISpeakTheTruth]

The tragic irony is that the only race that is willing to give the Quarians their homeworld back is the Geth. If they had just sucked it up centuries ago and say "Geth... we're sorry we were wrong fro trying to kill your race." Then the Geth would be like "That's ok come on home." (I'm paraphrasing what would be years to diplomacy lol)



I think if the Quarians can make peace with the Geth (Which will be easier if you have Tali and Legion) than I wouldn't be suprised if the Geth had some sort of gene theropy or something to make the Qurian's immune system situation disappear within a few years.