True, but crocodiles have very think scales that are over an inch thick in some places.Scales are opaque so any blood color would not be visible.Skin is translucent and quarians could not have an inch thick skin or scales in some places because they are already very slim in some areas.That would mean a leg that looks to be only about four to five inches thick has only two inches left for muscle tissue and bone structure which would not be sufficent to hold a Quarian up.As for scales, I do not believe they would have scales because Grunt metions Quarians being softer than Turians and Turians have true scales.But this is all just my opinion.
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#6902
Posté 04 janvier 2011 - 09:30
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Crocodiles were just the first thing that jumped in my mind. Also the Grunt's quote was:
"Turians... Salarians... all softy. The Quarians... not so much..." Or so.
"Turians... Salarians... all softy. The Quarians... not so much..." Or so.
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Posté 04 janvier 2011 - 09:34
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But the next quote from Grunt was him saying Turians were the most protected of all the previous races he listed.Basically.
#6904
Posté 04 janvier 2011 - 09:47
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I prefer to just ignore this. I, personally, believe he was talking about the suits. They have to be durable and resistant to tearing.Alienmorph wrote...
Crocodiles were just the first thing that jumped in my mind. Also the Grunt's quote was:
"Turians... Salarians... all softy. The Quarians... not so much..." Or so.
#6905
Posté 04 janvier 2011 - 09:49
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I think you got your crocodile facts wrong but that's beside the point right? Didn't turians have metal in their scales? That leaves a lot of space to guess. I doubt they have any armor if only because between Turians and Krogan that's two out of a limited number of races with natural armor. Also nothing in their suit designs suggest compensating for armor anywhere. There's also no mention of them being some sort of prey species.
#6906
Posté 04 janvier 2011 - 09:56
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No man you got the quote wrong it was "Less than an inch to pierce your spine. Humans, Asari, Salarians, all soft. Quarians not so much. With turians you got to bend the (I think he said fringe) back a bit. I don't see the point, HAH! see the point"
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Posté 04 janvier 2011 - 09:57
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also I could've sworn I heard Quarians are mammals from somewhere...
#6908
Posté 04 janvier 2011 - 10:09
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Mammilian analogues.crazyaz wrote...
also I could've sworn I heard Quarians are mammals from somewhere...
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Posté 04 janvier 2011 - 10:29
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Does that mean there's finally an alien species with hair? if not the Quarians that would make our last hope the Volus, and that would be scary.
#6910
Posté 04 janvier 2011 - 10:31
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Yeah, quarians are virtually mammals, the fact that they've got mammary glands probably says enough.
The batarians have hair, just really thin, barely noticeable. At least, that's what it says in the Codex.crazyaz wrote...
Does that mean there's finally an alien species with hair? if not the Quarians that would make our last hope the Volus, and that would be scary.
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Posté 04 janvier 2011 - 10:32
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I got this next part from a different forum:
The Basics
In Mass Effect Ascension, we are told the basic physiology of the Quarians, and in that sense they are remarkable similar to Humans and Asari, having lips, teeth, an endoskeleton, noses, eyes, and tearducts. Their reproductive systems are similar to ours both genders having genitalia, as Mass Effect 2 shows in the fact Quarian sex is possible, and done (Judging by their ability to engage in sex in humans) in a similar manner to human sex, showing that they have penises and vaginas.
Quarian biology is based on dextro-amino acids, as of this they cannot subsist on the same foods as all other species, apart from Turians; this does not have an effect on their appearance, contrary
to many beliefs.
The Quarian immune system is probably the worst in any known sapient species, as the Quarians originated from a homeworld where pathogens were a rarity, there was no need. Add this with their adaptation to sterile environments over the past 300 years, and we have a haystack against a blaze when it comes to disease.
Quarians are mammals, as they possess breasts and gestational reproduction.
Skin
The skin of Quarians is shielded from UV rays both by restriction to ships and their suits; this means that they will have no melanin in their skin. Melanin is the reason for colour in humans, and it is almost independent
of genes. It is the melanin concentration of the parents which determines the child’s skin colour, which is why an interracial couple will generate a “Hybrid child”. Quarians, having no need for melanin, will no longer have skin colours of a darker shade than a very pale white.
Hair
As mammals, and most likely primates, Quarians will most likely have hair on the top of their heads in a similar way to humans, although one can’t say whether or not they have facial hair. This hair will probably be short or shaved, as long hair may affect the machinery within the Quarian’s helmets or block their view.
Humans tend to be attracted to certain types of hair colour, blonde generally being the highest craved. Quarians possess no knowledge of hair colour, and as of such make reproductive decisions based on other factors, as of such his will probably result in a much smaller variety of hair colours than humans, there will probably be one or two hair colours amongst Quarians, although what they could be is unknown (I would guess brown or black,
but that’s a personal and unfounded guess).
Eyes
The visors of the Quarian’s helmets act in a similar manner to sunglasses, enabling Quarians to see the outside world, but giving others a limited view of them. However the eyes are clearly visible on a Quarian through the mask, indicating they are a source of light. This makes two suggestions:
-The Quarians have light-emitting eyes, a product of evolution.
-Quarian eyes are cybernetically upgraded.
Whatever the reason, Quarians definitely have light emitting eyes.
The Basics
In Mass Effect Ascension, we are told the basic physiology of the Quarians, and in that sense they are remarkable similar to Humans and Asari, having lips, teeth, an endoskeleton, noses, eyes, and tearducts. Their reproductive systems are similar to ours both genders having genitalia, as Mass Effect 2 shows in the fact Quarian sex is possible, and done (Judging by their ability to engage in sex in humans) in a similar manner to human sex, showing that they have penises and vaginas.
Quarian biology is based on dextro-amino acids, as of this they cannot subsist on the same foods as all other species, apart from Turians; this does not have an effect on their appearance, contrary
to many beliefs.
The Quarian immune system is probably the worst in any known sapient species, as the Quarians originated from a homeworld where pathogens were a rarity, there was no need. Add this with their adaptation to sterile environments over the past 300 years, and we have a haystack against a blaze when it comes to disease.
Quarians are mammals, as they possess breasts and gestational reproduction.
Skin
The skin of Quarians is shielded from UV rays both by restriction to ships and their suits; this means that they will have no melanin in their skin. Melanin is the reason for colour in humans, and it is almost independent
of genes. It is the melanin concentration of the parents which determines the child’s skin colour, which is why an interracial couple will generate a “Hybrid child”. Quarians, having no need for melanin, will no longer have skin colours of a darker shade than a very pale white.
Hair
As mammals, and most likely primates, Quarians will most likely have hair on the top of their heads in a similar way to humans, although one can’t say whether or not they have facial hair. This hair will probably be short or shaved, as long hair may affect the machinery within the Quarian’s helmets or block their view.
Humans tend to be attracted to certain types of hair colour, blonde generally being the highest craved. Quarians possess no knowledge of hair colour, and as of such make reproductive decisions based on other factors, as of such his will probably result in a much smaller variety of hair colours than humans, there will probably be one or two hair colours amongst Quarians, although what they could be is unknown (I would guess brown or black,
but that’s a personal and unfounded guess).
Eyes
The visors of the Quarian’s helmets act in a similar manner to sunglasses, enabling Quarians to see the outside world, but giving others a limited view of them. However the eyes are clearly visible on a Quarian through the mask, indicating they are a source of light. This makes two suggestions:
-The Quarians have light-emitting eyes, a product of evolution.
-Quarian eyes are cybernetically upgraded.
Whatever the reason, Quarians definitely have light emitting eyes.
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Posté 04 janvier 2011 - 10:40
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Most people prefer blondes? I call that whole post into question.
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Posté 04 janvier 2011 - 10:41
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Weiser_Cain wrote...
Most people prefer blondes? I call that whole post into question.
I second that
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Posté 04 janvier 2011 - 10:44
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It's not actually mine everything from "The Basics" down is copied from this
http://social.biowar.../index/978387/8
http://social.biowar.../index/978387/8
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Posté 04 janvier 2011 - 10:54
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Everything from "Skin" on is pure speculation presented as fact.
Skin: The "quarians are pale because of lack of UV exposure" theory is just as bad as "quarians look like turians because they are both based on dextro-amino acids" theory.
Melanin is not universally applicable for all mammals, not even on Earth, nor does it necessarily control the colour of the skin; and considering this is an alien species, this is even easier to dispute. Even then, the amount of UV exposure does not determine the melanin concentration in each and every case.
For example, polar bears barely receive any UV light on their skin at all, thanks to their thick fur. Yet, their skin is pure black, in order to capture as much heat as possible.
Hair: While quarians are similar to mammals in many ways, I must again refer you to the fact that they are an alien species. They are mammal analogues for as far as we know, but we do not know how far this convergent evolution goes.
Though the fact that they aided in spreading pollen on their homeworld does lead to the assumption that they have something on their bodies that would allow in carrying this pollen. Hair would be an option, but there are other theories as well, ranging from cilia to tendrils.
Eyes: There was a theory on the old threads that quarians have a tapetum lucidum, otherwise known as "eyeshine". This is also the case for cats and dogs, this means that their retina or another membrane on top or behind it is highly reflective. This tapetum lucidum could reflect light that comes from the HUD within the quarian's visor, giving the illusion of "glowing" eyes.
Though the fact that their creations, the geth, have a glowing optical unit as well does support the theory that their eyes are illuminated from within.
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Skin: The "quarians are pale because of lack of UV exposure" theory is just as bad as "quarians look like turians because they are both based on dextro-amino acids" theory.
Melanin is not universally applicable for all mammals, not even on Earth, nor does it necessarily control the colour of the skin; and considering this is an alien species, this is even easier to dispute. Even then, the amount of UV exposure does not determine the melanin concentration in each and every case.
For example, polar bears barely receive any UV light on their skin at all, thanks to their thick fur. Yet, their skin is pure black, in order to capture as much heat as possible.
Hair: While quarians are similar to mammals in many ways, I must again refer you to the fact that they are an alien species. They are mammal analogues for as far as we know, but we do not know how far this convergent evolution goes.
Though the fact that they aided in spreading pollen on their homeworld does lead to the assumption that they have something on their bodies that would allow in carrying this pollen. Hair would be an option, but there are other theories as well, ranging from cilia to tendrils.
Eyes: There was a theory on the old threads that quarians have a tapetum lucidum, otherwise known as "eyeshine". This is also the case for cats and dogs, this means that their retina or another membrane on top or behind it is highly reflective. This tapetum lucidum could reflect light that comes from the HUD within the quarian's visor, giving the illusion of "glowing" eyes.
Though the fact that their creations, the geth, have a glowing optical unit as well does support the theory that their eyes are illuminated from within.
edit:
This is a widely accepted evolutionary theory, the recessive gene managed to survive through manners of sexual selection, as it allowed those with it to stand out from their competitors. There are alternative theories, of course, but this is the one most people are aware of.Weiser_Cain wrote...
Most people prefer blondes? I call that whole post into question.
Modifié par Thundertactics, 04 janvier 2011 - 11:00 .
#6916
Posté 04 janvier 2011 - 11:02
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I actually don't think they have light emitting eyes, more like their eyes are reflecting the small bit of light that is getting into their helmets. Also, I picture her looking similar to her cute voice actress. It would make sense; if you were good looking, wouldn't you want a character that you are voice acting to look like you? lol
*edit* I support my theory on the eyes with this. Even though we can only see a small amount of her face under that helmet, there is a whole face template there. There is a glitch to have the camera clip into her helmet in ME1 and ME2. Even though it is not (hopefully) what she will look like if BioWare reveals her face in ME3, she doesn't have glowing eyes when you clip into the helmet. However, when you go back out, her eyes start to glow. I assume this means that the eyes reflect the small amount of light getting into their helmets. =)
*edit* I support my theory on the eyes with this. Even though we can only see a small amount of her face under that helmet, there is a whole face template there. There is a glitch to have the camera clip into her helmet in ME1 and ME2. Even though it is not (hopefully) what she will look like if BioWare reveals her face in ME3, she doesn't have glowing eyes when you clip into the helmet. However, when you go back out, her eyes start to glow. I assume this means that the eyes reflect the small amount of light getting into their helmets. =)
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Posté 04 janvier 2011 - 11:11
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Her eyes do glow when you clip through her helmet. Her face and eyes are part of the base texture, as it the emission stack on top of it. The emission stack, save for her voicelight, does not change.Grizzly2O wrote...
*edit* I support my theory on the eyes with this. Even though we can only see a small amount of her face under that helmet, there is a whole face template there. There is a glitch to have the camera clip into her helmet in ME1 and ME2. Even though it is not (hopefully) what she will look like if BioWare reveals her face in ME3, she doesn't have glowing eyes when you clip into the helmet. However, when you go back out, her eyes start to glow. I assume this means that the eyes reflect the small amount of light getting into their helmets. =)
Her visor is a different texture entirely, and does not affect her base texture in any way.
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Posté 04 janvier 2011 - 11:17
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Hmm, I could've sworn her eyes were purple/black when I saw them. Must've been my TV's brightness or contrast or something. *shrugs*
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#6919
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A question about Tali's research on the planet in which you recruit her. Why is it that they are so concerned that the star is aging as a remarkable rate due to dark energy? Could this threaten them or benefit them in a particular way?
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Outside of scientific curiousity it would put Haestrom (an old quarian outpost) in danger.Grizzly2O wrote...
A question about Tali's research on the planet in which you recruit her. Why is it that they are so concerned that the star is aging as a remarkable rate due to dark energy? Could this threaten them or benefit them in a particular way?
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Posté 04 janvier 2011 - 12:12
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Dark Energy's nature is still not clear... it can be related to Reapers's activity, or bring to something useful to defeat them... we'll see.
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Posté 04 janvier 2011 - 01:04
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Actually, as for the glowing eyes of the Quarians, I think that may be the result of some astounding night vision. Their home star is dimmer than ours, so better sign in dim or no light would make night vision akin to certain earth predators possible.
So, their eyes would glow from all the light in their HUD reflecting off their irises, much like you a lions eyes will glow at night if a light is shined on them.
So, their eyes would glow from all the light in their HUD reflecting off their irises, much like you a lions eyes will glow at night if a light is shined on them.
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Posté 04 janvier 2011 - 01:21
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Yep, sounds plausible, besides I'd prefer that they have bioluminescent irises.
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Posté 04 janvier 2011 - 01:22
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That's reflection, not glowing.Lord Coake wrote...
Actually, as for the glowing eyes of the Quarians, I think that may be the result of some astounding night vision. Their home star is dimmer than ours, so better sign in dim or no light would make night vision akin to certain earth predators possible.
So, their eyes would glow from all the light in their HUD reflecting off their irises, much like you a lions eyes will glow at night if a light is shined on them.
