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[Volrath937]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
Do you guys make much of the fact that those two wine glass remain in Shep's room for Tali along with everybody else, or do you just chalk it up to gameplay mechanics?  I guess what I am asking is that do you think Tali really just gets nutrient paste on the Normandy?  Doesn't the codex say the quarians splurge for new and exotic tastes when they get the chance?  And the Normandy SR2 is an excellent chance to splurge.  Surely, there must be some way they can get ahold of solid food now and again in some way that is safe.

My ability to speak with certainty on the subject is very weak, but it's almost certain that Tali could drink human wine and suffer no adverse effects. Grapes are already a dextro amino-acid based food I believe, so barring some specific part of a grape, or the fermentation into wine, being toxic to her, she'd be fine. She probably could eat solid foods in the cabin, but I think she mentions at one point that even trying a meat paste made her ill. I imagine she would need to build up a tolerance before enjoying a fine meal.

[Someone With Mass]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Do you guys make much of the fact that those two wine glass remain in Shep's room for Tali along with everybody else, or do you just chalk it up to gameplay mechanics?  I guess what I am asking is that do you think Tali really just gets nutrient paste on the Normandy?  Doesn't the codex say the quarians splurge for new and exotic tastes when they get the chance?  And the Normandy SR2 is an excellent chance to splurge.  Surely, there must be some way they can get ahold of solid food now and again in some way that is safe.

It's not like a single stray of bacteria could kill her. She made out with Shepard, and walked out from that rather healthy.

[Giggles_Manically]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Is it just me or is that situation with Veetor not ideal? Why don't more small colonies arrange something like that? New colony gets a skilled quarian mechanic to help them. Quarian gets to go someplace safe on Pilgrimage, learn some valuable stuff, an is guarantied to have something useful to take back to the flotilla. Win/win for everybody. And yea, that is OT I know, which sucks because it seems relevant.

Because outside of Shep, TIM, and a few others in a good  moment the galaxy lacks the ability to put two and two toghther.

[Someone With Mass]

smecky-kitteh wrote...

I think we'll need more than that or would an SR3 be a bad idea?

Unless it's a dreadnought, then no.

SR2 will suffice.

[Volrath937]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Is it just me or is that situation with Veetor not ideal? Why don't more small colonies arrange something like that? New colony gets a skilled quarian mechanic to help them. Quarian gets to go someplace safe on Pilgrimage, learn some valuable stuff, an is guarantied to have something useful to take back to the flotilla. Win/win for everybody. And yea, that is OT I know, which sucks because it seems relevant.

Let's make it on-topic then. 
Tali mentions that she thinks the point of the Pilgrimage is to show quarians how bad things are out there for quarians, so they won't ever want to leave the Flotilla. If a pilgrim could go to a nice quiet colony, do some work, make some money, and then go, would they really want to go back to the Flotilla? Might be preferable to just stay.

[Someone With Mass]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Is it just me or is that situation with Veetor not ideal? Why don't more small colonies arrange something like that? New colony gets a skilled quarian mechanic to help them. Quarian gets to go someplace safe on Pilgrimage, learn some valuable stuff, an is guarantied to have something useful to take back to the flotilla. Win/win for everybody. And yea, that is OT I know, which sucks because it seems relevant.

I think it's because of the quarian's bad reputation as scavengers and thieves.

But I agree that it's a very good deal for both parties.

[J4N3_M3]

as for food: i think, one of the books mentioned something about safe groceries for quarians. not sure which one though. so i think, once a quarian and a turian are aboard, shep will make sure, they get the food that suits their needs and is more to their taste than nutrient paste.

as for veetor and the colony: that sounds like an idea for a quarian exchange program xD though i think the idea of the pilgrimage is to leave the flotilla to actually learn how to survive. not to go from one save place to the next.

[Someone With Mass]

But aren't quarians supposed to seek out knowledge on their Pilgrimages as well? I don't think they would learn so much on a remote colony.



I think Tali said something about it in ME1.

[Collider]

Let's make it on-topic then.

Tali mentions that she thinks the point of the Pilgrimage is to show quarians how bad things are out there for quarians, so they won't ever want to leave the Flotilla. If a pilgrim could go to a nice quiet colony, do some work, make some money, and then go, would they really want to go back to the Flotilla? Might be preferable to just stay.

hmm. Where does she mention this? It's quite interesting.

[Sleepicub09]

Collider wrote...

Let's make it on-topic then.
Tali mentions that she thinks the point of the Pilgrimage is to show quarians how bad things are out there for quarians, so they won't ever want to leave the Flotilla. If a pilgrim could go to a nice quiet colony, do some work, make some money, and then go, would they really want to go back to the Flotilla? Might be preferable to just stay.

hmm. Where does she mention this? It's quite interesting.

in mass effect 1 she mentions she misses the flotilla and you have the option of saying "maybe that's what the pilgrimage is about"

[Someone With Mass]

More reasons to use the bar in Kasumi's room, then.

With Tali.

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[Volrath937]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
I could see this, but I also think that quarian loyalty is so ingrained into them from birth that it would hard to break them of it.  Plus, never being with your own kind, never having a mate of your species, never having kids, never being around your native culture.  That can get depressing.  Lots of people wouldn't want that even if it meant they could live in someplace a lot nicer than the Flotilla.

And I also think Tali could drink wine just fine.  We pretty much established in the Garrus thread with Pacifen's aid that dextro/levo allergies would probably just occur with proteins and only in rare cases so wine, vegetables, beard and the like would be fine.  Granted quarians are more likely to be allergic than turians, but if sleeping with Shep just made her a bit sick, I don't know why a glass of wine would kill her.

True, but given the dire straits the Flotilla is in, every pilgrim not coming back is a potential laborer lost, and a pilgrimage gift not found. We don't really know enough of the average quarian to say how loyal they really are, Tali would constitute an outlier most likely. 

Thundertactics wrote up some really detailed stuff on quarian biology, and yes, most foods would be okay. The biggest problem for Tali would be ability to digest the food. Look at vegetarians for example, without having eaten meat for a very long time, their ability to digest it is impaired, leading to illness. Tali probably ate the same paste for years and years. She would probably need to be gradually introduced into new foods.

Collider: It's somewhere in ME1, can't remember where.

It is my understanding that no species on Earth is made up entirely of right handed (dextro) amino acids, but it doesn't really matter. Turians and quarians not being able to eat levo based foods is part of the game, not actual science.

 
You're probably right, I haven't had a biology lesson in a very long time.

Modifié par Volrath937, 14 septembre 2010 - 06:55 .

[Collider]

Thank you very much Pacifien. I appreciate your help.

I could see this, but I also think that quarian loyalty is so ingrained into them from birth that it would hard to break them of it. Plus, never being with your own kind, never having a mate of your species, never having kids, never being around your native culture. That can get depressing. Lots of people wouldn't want that even if it meant they could live in someplace a lot nicer than the Flotilla.

That is true. Even if there are places that are "nicer," the Flotilla is still home. As much of a home that the Quarians have. Of course, in certain ways Tali's home is also the SR2, especially if she is exiled.

[Someone With Mass]

Volrath937 wrote...
Thundertactics wrote up some really detailed stuff on quarian biology, and yes, most foods would be okay. The biggest problem for Tali would be ability to digest the food. Look at vegetarians for example, without having eaten meat for a very long time, their ability to digest it is impaired, leading to illness. Tali probably ate the same paste for years and years. She would probably need to be gradually introduced into new foods.

Collider: It's somewhere in ME1, can't remember where.

Didn't the Codex mention that quarians could get some sort of hangover by eating meat?

[PseudoEthnic]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Do you guys make much of the fact that those two wine glass remain in Shep's room for Tali along with everybody else, or do you just chalk it up to gameplay mechanics?  I guess what I am asking is that do you think Tali really just gets nutrient paste on the Normandy?  Doesn't the codex say the quarians splurge for new and exotic tastes when they get the chance?  And the Normandy SR2 is an excellent chance to splurge.  Surely, there must be some way they can get ahold of solid food now and again in some way that is safe.

My Shepard spoils Tali with the finest Turian cuisine out there. Plus, since Turians can drink human alcholol, we get the best wine too. All clean, of course. The sky's the limit, baby!

[Someone With Mass]

A nice dinner at some fancy restaurant with Tali isn't such a bad idea after all...

[Someone With Mass]

mrsph wrote...

It's an illness that is their cultural equivalent on a hangover.

So...Tali is a vegetarian?

[Volrath937]

Someone With Mass wrote...

mrsph wrote...

It's an illness that is their cultural equivalent on a hangover.

So...Tali is a vegetarian?

By necessity rather than choice. Keeping animals on the Flotilla would be too resource intensive.