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[MaxHaxx]

Hope i'm not late for the party.

Played ME2 trought first time in last weekend and loved every bit of it, especially Tali.

[Breakdown Boy]

Bloody hell I am struggling to get this Popular Mechanics logo right. Any of you have the Popular font set? This is for the PM Tali cover.

[MadMapper]

LordPennlocke wrote...

Also. Tali Sniper. Do want.

I'm working on a sniper Tali since a few days. Gonna post it soon!

[Samjin]

I dunno... Tali + sniper rifle seems odd. To me anyways.

[MadMapper]

Yep, it seems odd to many people. I like the Viper sniper rifle shape, so I tried to combine two things I like

[james1976]

Alphyn wrote...

Here is my gift:

http://img209.images...9/1834/tali.png
(Huge image is huge).

I'm sorry if I didn't get everyone. I tried to add as many people as I could, but it just looked messy. :c

Sorry, and I hope you like it, guys.

<3

Nice.  Desktop worthy!

Alienmorph wrote...

Okay, it's time for my anniversary
gift. I'm sad the the whole project is not ready, as I hoped, but here's
the preview of my first Mass Effect Fancomic, off course with Tali and
Shepard! First, two full pages:

That's how it should have been instead of Shep just exploring the crash site alone.  To me it would been far more meaningful.

Modifié par james1976, 03 février 2011 - 03:22 .

[Alienmorph]

Sergeant Conley wrote...

Alienmorph wrote...

Sergeant Conley wrote...

Hmm. I'll be looking forward to this.

Out of curiosity, you ever think of doing a collaboration work?

Hmm, never thought much about that, but why not? You have something in mind?

I've got a script for a comic I've been working on. It'd be a "oneshot," for lack of a better term, but may be a few pages long. It'd start out as a seemingly serious/dramatic story where Shepard, Garrus, and Jacob are trying to rescue Tali from Daro'Xen, but then it turns into the land of comedy as Jacob provides the distraction Garrus and Shepard need to take her down.

I call it "Improbable Situations With Improbable Solutions." Plural words in case I ever come up with another idea and do a sequel or companion piece. If you're interested I should warn that it may be a really long time before I finish the script. I have a horrible procrastination habit.

Hmm... so... Shep and Garrus rescuing Tali while Jacob does the quarian version of the priiiiize with Xen? Sounds more fitted for an humor comic. Sorry for the delayed answer too. 

[Nodscouter]

james1976 wrote...

Alphyn wrote...

Here is my gift:

http://img209.images...9/1834/tali.png
(Huge image is huge).

I'm sorry if I didn't get everyone. I tried to add as many people as I could, but it just looked messy. :c

Sorry, and I hope you like it, guys.

<3

Nice.  Desktop worthy!

Alienmorph wrote...

Okay, it's time for my anniversary
gift. I'm sad the the whole project is not ready, as I hoped, but here's
the preview of my first Mass Effect Fancomic, off course with Tali and
Shepard! First, two full pages:

That's how it should have been instead of Shep just exploring the crash site alone.  To me it would been far more meaningful.

Agreed. It would also give us Garrus & Tali fans a nice way to get some new dialogue from them both.

[Alienmorph]

We couldn't expect that from a miniDlC. But it was one of the first ideas that appeared in my mind when I thinked about making ME's fancomic

[Confused_Shepard]

Does anyone think Tali is a bit too sugary sweet. I mean dear lord. Maybe it's Liz Sroka's voice acting. She does seem more matured in ME 2 but she might as well go SQUEE!!! every time she sees Shepard. Maybe that's the point. A young girl tossed into the world of adults



Which is weird considering the whole point of the Pilgrimage is to turn everyone into a tough as nails badass and bring something valuable back. I would appreciate an Alistair esque hardening but maybe her loyalty mission already did that.



Too bad we didn't get a, "I used to be a young girl but now I'm a grown woman" type convo

[Sergeant Conley]

Alienmorph wrote...

Hmm... so... Shep and Garrus rescuing Tali while Jacob does the quarian version of the priiiiize with Xen? Sounds more fitted for an humor comic. Sorry for the delayed answer too.

So I take it that's a no? Alright then.

Outta curiosity, though, you got a guess as to when we might see that comic of yours posted somewhere?

Modifié par Sergeant Conley, 03 février 2011 - 05:05 .

[Alienmorph]

Sergeant Conley wrote...

Alienmorph wrote...

Hmm... so... Shep and Garrus rescuing Tali while Jacob does the quarian version of the priiiiize with Xen? Sounds more fitted for an humor comic. Sorry for the delayed answer too.

So I take it that's a no? Alright then.

Outta curiosity, though, you got a guess as to when we might see that comic of yours posted somewhere?

Don't take it in a bad way, sounds funny, do a I try, in the worst case you'll have done an hilarous fanfic. About my stuffs, don't know when the first comic will be ready, but I'll try to make it in the better and quickier way possible

[Redcoat]

Confused_Shepard wrote...

Does anyone think Tali is a bit too sugary sweet. I mean dear lord. Maybe it's Liz Sroka's voice acting. She does seem more matured in ME 2 but she might as well go SQUEE!!! every time she sees Shepard. Maybe that's the point. A young girl tossed into the world of adults

Which is weird considering the whole point of the Pilgrimage is to turn everyone into a tough as nails badass and bring something valuable back. I would appreciate an Alistair esque hardening but maybe her loyalty mission already did that.

Too bad we didn't get a, "I used to be a young girl but now I'm a grown woman" type convo

I think this is part of the appeal of her character. Tali isn't a tough-as-nails, no-nonsense, Lara-Croftish "tough chick" like Ashley, Jack, or Miranda. There are far too many of those sorts of women in video games these days, and we need more like Tali (or Alyx Vance from Half-Life 2, for another good example).

If you've ever played another BioWare RPG, you know that all of their love interests basically fall into the "Betty and Veronica" pattern. The "Betty" is sweet and wholesome, the "Veronica" is dark and dangerous. Tali is the Betty to the Veronicas Jack and Miranda, which means she's going to the sweet, good-natured one. It's all about catering to different player preferences.

[NuclearBuddha]

Redcoat wrote...
I think this is part of the appeal of her character. Tali isn't a tough-as-nails, no-nonsense, Lara-Croftish "tough chick" like Ashley, Jack, or Miranda. There are far too many of those sorts of women in video games these days, and we need more like Tali (or Alyx Vance from Half-Life 2, for another good example).

If you've ever played another BioWare RPG, you know that all of their love interests basically fall into the "Betty and Veronica" pattern. The "Betty" is sweet and wholesome, the "Veronica" is dark and dangerous. Tali is the Betty to the Veronicas Jack and Miranda, which means she's going to the sweet, good-natured one. It's all about catering to different player preferences.

Heh, that's a good deconstruction, really.

She's hardly all sugar, though.  She had a noticable renegade edge to her in ME1, and remains willing to challenge Shepard (and not back down) on things in ME2.  Is she nicer (softer?) in general that some oft he other female leads?  Sure.  But that's hardly a mark against her.

[Rune-Chan]

Confused_Shepard wrote...

Does anyone think Tali is a bit too sugary sweet. I mean dear lord. Maybe it's Liz Sroka's voice acting. She does seem more matured in ME 2 but she might as well go SQUEE!!! every time she sees Shepard. Maybe that's the point. A young girl tossed into the world of adults

Which is weird considering the whole point of the Pilgrimage is to turn everyone into a tough as nails badass and bring something valuable back. I would appreciate an Alistair esque hardening but maybe her loyalty mission already did that.

Too bad we didn't get a, "I used to be a young girl but now I'm a grown woman" type convo

As other have said, not everyone needs to be a hard as nails bad ass.

Miranda is cold and calculating.
Jack is angry and impulsive.
Tali is sweet and affectionate.

That said, I don't believe she is all sugar and sweetness. She is very adamant in her hatred for Cerberus, she doesn't take disrespect lightly: "What about the Quarian?" ,"My name is Tali!". She has the nerve to shout at an admiral and doesn't take any sass from Prazza either.

Let's not forget her argument with Legion either. Even if she is a LI of Shepard she will still challenge him over it.

Modifié par Machines Are Us, 03 février 2011 - 07:17 .

[NuclearBuddha]

Looks like there is indeed something in the visor.

[Niulus Kriyk]

NuclearBuddha wrote...



Looks like there is indeed something in the visor.

Nice find. Tali looking good as ever.

[Alienmorph]

Machines Are Us wrote...

Confused_Shepard wrote...

Does anyone think Tali is a bit too sugary sweet. I mean dear lord. Maybe it's Liz Sroka's voice acting. She does seem more matured in ME 2 but she might as well go SQUEE!!! every time she sees Shepard. Maybe that's the point. A young girl tossed into the world of adults

Which is weird considering the whole point of the Pilgrimage is to turn everyone into a tough as nails badass and bring something valuable back. I would appreciate an Alistair esque hardening but maybe her loyalty mission already did that.

Too bad we didn't get a, "I used to be a young girl but now I'm a grown woman" type convo

As other have said, not everyone needs to be a hard as nails bad ass.

Miranda is cold and calculating.
Jack is angry and impulsive.
Tali is sweet and affectionate.

That said, I don't believe she is all sugar and sweetness. She is very adamant in her hatred for Cerberus, she doesn't take disrespect lightly: "What about the Quarian?" ,"My name is Tali!". She has the nerve to shout at an admiral and doesn't take any sass from Prazza either.

Let's not forget her argument with Legion either. Even if she is a LI of Shepard she will still challenge him over it.

The "sugar and sweetness" definition maybe can be applied to the romance... maybe... but surely not to her whole characterization. For example she's the character you save from troubles the higthest number of times but every time all seems to point that she was going down fighting... she trew grenades to the Saren's assassins, she runs for cover on Freedom's Progress only to aid the injured and the bunker on Haestrom is fullfilled of dead geths, but there are no quarian corpses in it, so she killed them. Then there are dialogues like "My name is Tali!" or "Shepard, I rembember to you that those people thinked that enslaving Thorian's Creepers and Rachins was a good idea." or "I'm Zorah, from the starship Neema. And you're an idiot.". It doesn't fit very well the definition of the sweet damsel in distress for me...   

[Rune-Chan]

Alienmorph wrote...

Machines Are Us wrote...

Confused_Shepard wrote...

Does anyone think Tali is a bit too sugary sweet. I mean dear lord. Maybe it's Liz Sroka's voice acting. She does seem more matured in ME 2 but she might as well go SQUEE!!! every time she sees Shepard. Maybe that's the point. A young girl tossed into the world of adults

Which is weird considering the whole point of the Pilgrimage is to turn everyone into a tough as nails badass and bring something valuable back. I would appreciate an Alistair esque hardening but maybe her loyalty mission already did that.

Too bad we didn't get a, "I used to be a young girl but now I'm a grown woman" type convo

As other have said, not everyone needs to be a hard as nails bad ass.

Miranda is cold and calculating.
Jack is angry and impulsive.
Tali is sweet and affectionate.

That said, I don't believe she is all sugar and sweetness. She is very adamant in her hatred for Cerberus, she doesn't take disrespect lightly: "What about the Quarian?" ,"My name is Tali!". She has the nerve to shout at an admiral and doesn't take any sass from Prazza either.

Let's not forget her argument with Legion either. Even if she is a LI of Shepard she will still challenge him over it.

The "sugar and sweetness" definition maybe can be applied to the romance... maybe... but surely not to her whole characterization. For example she's the character you save from troubles the higthest number of times but every time all seems to point that she was going down fighting... she trew grenades to the Saren's assassins, she runs for cover on Freedom's Progress only to aid the injured and the bunker on Haestrom is fullfilled of dead geths, but there are no quarian corpses in it, so she killed them. Then there are dialogues like "My name is Tali!" or "Shepard, I rembember to you that those people thinked that enslaving Thorian's Creepers and Rachins was a good idea." or "I'm Zorah, from the starship Neema. And you're an idiot.". It doesn't fit very well the definition of the sweet damsel in distress for me...   

I am in agreement.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Na, I think redcoat defined it pretty well. She is different to the characters of Jack, Miranda and Ashley. She does have a few lines in M|E2 that show how she has progressed into being less of the 'sweet and sugary' girl who was a bit naive in sending that letter to the shadow broker. But when she was cornered by the assassins, she didn't give into their intimidation. She still fought back.

[Alienmorph]

Also, about the romance it would have been hardly beliavable if she reacted in a different way... she didn't think that anything could happen between her and Shepard, and at the same time she's worried of the risks she can have to face to be with him and that caring for someone in that way might make Shepard vulnerable ("I could get sick, or jeopardize the mission.") so she can look excessively timid or even childish, but this doesn't mean she is so for real. I'm really curious to see how se'll evolve in ME3, now that her initial ensecurnesses are gone.

Modifié par Alienmorph, 03 février 2011 - 07:54 .

[Redcoat]

"Sweet" doesn't necessarily have to mean "doormat." Tali will stand up for herself if threatened or insulted, but she's every bit the "Betty" compared to Jack or Miranda.

If there is one romance trope whose head I want to see slammed into the curb and stomped until nothing remains but little pieces of skull and brain matter, it's the "love at first hate" relationship, where two characters meet and spend most their time bickering and sniping at each other, then all of a sudden decide that they love each other. Tali's romance arc avoids that, which strikes me as being a far better foundation for a lasting relationship.

[Rune-Chan]

Redcoat wrote...



If there is one romance trope whose head I want to see slammed into the curb and stomped until nothing remains but little pieces of skull and brain matter, it's the "love at first hate" relationship, where two characters meet and spend most their time bickering and sniping at each other, then all of a sudden decide that they love each other.

Sounds like every third person action/adventure game in existance.

[Ramirez Wolfen]

NuclearBuddha wrote...



Looks like there is indeed something in the visor.

Where did you get that pic? I thought the Appearance Pack 2 wasn't released yet.

[Ramirez Wolfen]

Double post! Sorry!

Modifié par Ramirez Wolfen, 03 février 2011 - 08:16 .