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[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

I forgot about that! Thanks nuclear buddha! Something else I miss about ME1, the little bits of info/mini epilogue that appears after doing some of the side missions.
I'll listen to that in a sec madmapper, I'll search it on youtube. Although usually a prog rocker, I love exotic music too (and Zelda music!) So anything different and new is great.
After spending a lot of time outside of the migrant fleet (her pilgramage, doing missions for the flotilla and the mission with Shepard,) I imagine Tali would become quite accustomed to the techno music that appears to be the galactic 'norm' in most clubs you go to.
Even though we didn't get as much info about Tali herself, I did love all the information about the quarians and their culture in ME1.
Edit: Top of the page. An image from Clan V. Team dextro  Just a joke, Garrus has a beautiful face really. And no one could ever kick Tali. I just love the pose!

Modifié par Tasha vas Nar Rayya, 13 février 2011 - 08:23 .

[Null_]

"There was a hole" "No data available", the fact they take care of Quarian homeworld... It seems Geth start developing emotions.. even if they dont understand it yet.

EDIT: Damn thats fine piece of fanart. Wish I could draw anything more than stickymen ;/

Modifié par Null_, 13 février 2011 - 08:24 .

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Yeah, Legion still believes that the geth don't have emotions. His dialogue in his LM confirms this. He believes rewriting would have little effect on them, as they have no emotions. But the differeing views provided when the reached consensus on the matter of the heretics proves that to be obselete. They probably don't have fully developed emotions as other races do, but opinion, irrational behaviour and humour? Definately sentient.

Bringing Tali along for Legion's LM is brilliant!

[Rune-Chan]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...


Bringing Tali along for Legion's LM is brilliant!

I always do.

My Shepard is one manipulative son of a b***h.

[Null_]

Machines Are Us wrote...

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...


Bringing Tali along for Legion's LM is brilliant!

I always do.

My Shepard is one manipulative son of a b***h.

Sure you didnt mean bringing Legion for Tali's LM? Tali doesnt have anything unique on Legion's LM... She doesnt even freak out when Legion talks about rewriting heretics to make them return to truth geth and "all will be stronger"

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

No unique lines, but the fact that she is there for the experience, and is able to witness the truth about the geth. I like to think that the mission would reduce her hatred for the geth somewhat, and allow her to realise that the heretics should be the one they're after. Not the 'normal' geth like Legion.

[Volrath937]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Yeah, Legion still believes that the geth don't have emotions. His dialogue in his LM confirms this. He believes rewriting would have little effect on them, as they have no emotions. But the differeing views provided when the reached consensus on the matter of the heretics proves that to be obselete. They probably don't have fully developed emotions as other races do, but opinion, irrational behaviour and humour? Definately sentient.
Bringing Tali along for Legion's LM is brilliant!

Legion is a subset of the network of runtimes known as Geth. Legion is Geth, Geth is Legion. If Legion says Geth doesn't have emotions, being software, then I see no reason to not believe it. Though of course Bioware could say otherwise, as they are not bound by reality in portraying constructs. And keep in mind, Legion was built specifically to work alongside organics, so it acting like an organic is more a feature than de facto proof of sapience, in my eyes anyway. 

Bringing Legion on Tali's loyalty mission always bugged me, as it seemed gauche given what Tali is being accused of. She's brought to trial on bringing active Geth platforms back to the Flotilla, endangering her people, and then Shepard demands Legion be let on board, even arguing with the captain of the ship. A shame Tali doesn't speak up on the matter. 

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

I meant bringing Tali onto Legion's LM. Not the other way round! I have seen the vid, but that would just be downright cruel...

'I don't think it's a good idea to bring... oh.'

Poor Tali. I believe Legion has emotional capabilites. He has humour, he has morals, and he appears to have an emotional attachment to Shepard. The heretics MAY not have emotions. But as the only communicable geth we know is Legion, are knowledge is limited. I suspect that all the geth in Legion's network have limited emotional capabilites as well. After all, they have a divided consensus concerning whether to rewrite or destroy the heretics. So this is implied that they have morals and ethics.

However, Legion is unique as he his designed to associate with organics, so he may have more advanced emotions than other geth.

But I digress, I like bring Tali along for Legion's loyalty mission so she can learn this, and hopefully realise that not all geth are intent on obliterating their creators.

[Null_]

Well I bring Tali on every mission. Anyway we have no idea that charges against Tali are for bringing active geth(parts). Bringing Legion is actually quite logical if you are pushing for peace. His conversation with admiral Korris shows hope of peacefull resolution, and conversation with admiral Xen shows Legion that Tali doesnt support recontroling of the geth "For once Legion we agree". Its important for both Quarians to see Geth are open to peace and for Geth to see not all creators want to destroy them/enslave them.
That beign said Shepard shouldnt just say "I bring geth because he is on my team. deal with it" He should explain that Legion is the only True Geth outside of the veil and so on.

Modifié par Null_, 13 février 2011 - 09:00 .

[Alienmorph]

Bringing Tali on Legion's LM has a lot of sense... she still have a pair of unique dialogues (when you arrive to the hudge mainframe gallery) and after all the heretics's base is a quarian space station rebuilt... plus, she needs to learn more about her "enemies" as rightfully pointed.

[Rune-Chan]

Null_ wrote...

Machines Are Us wrote...

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...


Bringing Tali along for Legion's LM is brilliant!

I always do.

My Shepard is one manipulative son of a b***h.

Sure you didnt mean bringing Legion for Tali's LM? Tali doesnt have anything unique on Legion's LM... She doesnt even freak out when Legion talks about rewriting heretics to make them return to truth geth and "all will be stronger"

Nope, I meant Tali on Legion's. As I have mentioned several times on this thread, I disagree with Tali's perspective on the Geth, so I bring her along to try and change her mind.

Hence the manipulative b*****d part.

[Null_]

Alienmorph wrote...

Bringing Tali on Legion's LM has a lot of sense... she still have a pair of unique dialogues (when you arrive to the hudge mainframe gallery) and after all the heretics's base is a quarian space station rebuilt... plus, she needs to learn more about her "enemies" as rightfully pointed.

They should have added more unique lines and she really should oppose more to rewritting.. But I quess not many people care . Still they added so much unique stuff to Tali's LM if Legion is present which is VERY rare outside of doing it on purpose on second playthrought. Only a handful of people have seen Legion on Tali's mission.So why not add more unique stuff on Legion's LM if you bring Tali(which quite a few people probably did). Its just weird... like Grunt on Mordin's mission(he is tank born I know. but he really should care at least abit)

Modifié par Null_, 13 février 2011 - 09:05 .

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Precisely! Although I am more on board with Koris than Xen. But Morrigan's voice (uh, I mean Xen) is, of course, great to listen to

[Null_]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Precisely! Although I am more on board with Koris than Xen. But Morrigan's voice (uh, I mean Xen) is, of course, great to listen to

"We shall see marvelous machine... we shall see" Sounded damn epic and scary... and her creepy mail you get later on...Makes me wish we could blow up Alarei after confiriming Rael's death..his research is in Xen's hands now :/

Modifié par Null_, 13 février 2011 - 09:09 .

[CroGamer002]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Edit: Top of the page. An image from Clan V. Team dextro  Just a joke, Garrus has a beautiful face really. And no one could ever kick Tali. I just love the pose!

But I would slap her.

[Null_]

She has a shotgun.

[NuclearBuddha]

MadMapper wrote...

Maybe I'm only a noob but... I never understood the sense of that message. Why it pops up after killing the last geth? And why is dispatched beyond the Perseus Veil? O.o

It implies that even the heretic geth have some kind of bizarre fascination/religious obsession with the quarians.  The recording of the song is sent back to the geth behind the Perseus Veil.

[NuclearBuddha]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...
Just a joke, Garrus has a beautiful face really. And no one could ever kick Tali. I just love the pose!

That's cute how they made Tali shorter than femShep.

[MadMapper]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

That's cute how they made Tali shorter than femShep.

Bioware should make Tali a little shorter in the game too 

[NuclearBuddha]

MadMapper wrote...
Bioware should make Tali a little shorter in the game too 

Yeah.  According to what Ascension says about quarians, she'd be crazy tall for one.  Or Shep is just short.

But, game limitation.  Shrug.

[Null_]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

MadMapper wrote...
Bioware should make Tali a little shorter in the game too 

Yeah.  According to what Ascension says about quarians, she'd be crazy tall for one.  Or Shep is just short.

But, game limitation.  Shrug.

Tali didnt seem tall when you visit flotilla

[CroGamer002]

Null_ wrote...

She has a shotgun.

What, she would love it.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Hopefully, quarians will recognise that a human slapping them on the ass is a good sign. If not then, well, she has a shotgun.

In game, femshep and Tali are the same size. I believe male shep is taller than femshep. Grunt is taller (and bigger) and Garrus is taller still. I discovered this by flicking through characters on the squad level up page

I'm glad that small girls are a good sign, I am the butt of innumerable short jokes being 5"2... Hehe!

I haven't read Ascension, just Redemption and Evolution #1. And they didn't really feature quarians...

[FsDxRAGE]

I have not seen that top of the page image!

NICE!

[NuclearBuddha]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...
In game, femshep and Tali are the same size. I believe male shep is taller than femshep. Grunt is taller (and bigger) and Garrus is taller still.

MaleShep and Tali are the same height.