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[Collider]

I was under the impression that Tali wanted her planet back. Since her planet is occupied by Geth, wouldn't that only end in 1 way?

She wants Rannoch back, but that doesn't mean she wants war with the Geth. She states in her loyalty mission that the Quarians should instead prepare for the Reapers.

[Pacifien]

Just_mike wrote...
You mean like using Morrigan or something in the Fade to rescue that boy?

No, like when I used Juhani to break Revan out of prison.

ETA: And to be even more off-topic: Sten and Oghren. Jailbreak. Win.

Modifié par Pacifien, 15 septembre 2010 - 01:09 .

[Someone With Mass]

mrsph wrote...

I'd love for Legion and Tali to have to team up to save Shepard. Kind of like the prison breakout Bioware loves to put in their games.

Question is: Who/what are they going to save Shepard from?

[TheodoricFriede]

On the topic of Tali and Legion, i believe that, while Tali defiantly starts out with considerable animosity toward the geth platform, after a successful paragon resolution to the confrontation, she gains a grudging respect for him. That, plus the fact that Legion aided in the destruction of the collectors, probably earned him some points in her book.

I also like to imagine that during the course of Mass Effect 3 both Tali and Legion will be instrumental to having peace between the geth and quarian people.

[Collider]

Someone With Mass wrote...

mrsph wrote...

I'd love for Legion and Tali to have to team up to save Shepard. Kind of like the prison breakout Bioware loves to put in their games.

Question is: Who/what are they going to save Shepard from?

The Council, perhaps.

[Someone With Mass]

Collider wrote...
The Council, perhaps.

Might be a bad idea to go against a potential ally.

[Collider]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Collider wrote...
The Council, perhaps.

Might be a bad idea to go against a potential ally.

I personally believe in working with the Council. I believe Tali advocates that as well.

[Pacifien]

I think all Quarians are conflicted about what it would take to get their homeworld back, and all the Admirals are every side of that conflict personified. Before meeting Legion, it's an all or nothing idea. Jump into war with all your heart, but it could still lead to doom for all the Quarians. Interesting how before you even meet Legion, the Geth are handily swept aside as a threat by Anderson and even the Quarians, after 300 years, seem to think now is the time to strike.

Anyway, so the actual Geth don't want war. I think the only way peace talks are going to happen is if a select group of Quarians work in secret behind the scenes to open up discussions with the Geth -- the Geth have to be taught about organic individuality. While many Quarians would want to return to their homeworld in peace, there will always be Quarians who would fight the Geth with their dying breath. So the Geth have to understand that an attack by some Quarians does not mean all Quarians seek their destruction. Hence secret discussions first.

[Collider]

mrsph wrote...

Both the Council and Cerberus would have a reason to capture Shepard.

I would agree. Shepard being rescued by squad mates or his/her LI would be an interesting turn around, too.
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I actually believe the Geth, not the other way around, need to make the first attempt at making peace. The Geth destroy any ship that comes into their territory, so it's basically impossible or implausible for the Quarians to be able to contact with the Geth without some kind of violence involved. Also, the Geth need to prove that they want peace. Especially since they are Geth - they need to show that they can be "individuals" - not just like the heretics.

Modifié par Collider, 15 septembre 2010 - 01:16 .

[Volrath937]

Calinstel wrote...

As to the Tali/Legion debate. Don't forget that this confrontation occurs right after Legion's loyalty mission where Legion advocated destroying his own kind but let Shepard decide. That would put Legion and the 'real' geth in a different light to Tali. Well, as least I think it would.
Friends? No. But not enemies either.

If my memory serves, Legion never gives a clear answer. I think it says that a few more runtimes favor rewriting over destruction, hardly an endorsement. My feelings on the "real geth" and "heretics" are probably in the minority though, so I'll concede the point. It'll be interesting to see what happens, I'd put money on Shepard shaping the outcome of the conflict and probably Tali's opinion.

Modifié par Volrath937, 15 septembre 2010 - 01:15 .

[Collider]

From the way Legion spoke to Shepard, it seems the geth may actually want Shepard himself to be a mediator for them. Of course, my opinions get shot full of holes as well so...

Peace between the Quarians and the Geth is foreshadowed pretty heavily in ME2, especially with the newly released Liara DLC. There's even a bit in ME1, though understandably small.

[Someone With Mass]

Collider wrote...

mrsph wrote...

Both the Council and Cerberus would have a reason to capture Shepard.

I would agree. Shepard being rescued by squad mates or his/her LI would be an interesting turn around, too.
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I actually believe the Geth, not the other way around, need to make the first attempt at making peace. The Geth destroy any ship that comes into their territory, so it's basically impossible or implausible for the Quarians to be able to contact with the Geth without some kind of violence involved. Also, the Geth need to prove that they want peace. Especially since they are Geth - they need to show that they can be "individuals" - not just like the heretics.

Same goes for the quarians. They're pretty much shooting geth on sight. A lot of tention between the two.

And as for Cerberus wanting Shepard's ass, that just gives us more reasons to tear them apart piece by piece.

[Collider]

mrsph wrote...

True, one of the main reasons no one have ever tried actually contacting the geth is because they attack anything that enters their air-space. And it isn't the heretics doing that, it is the true geth.

The galaxy at large has a good reason to distrust the geth because they are an AI and AIs are wildly unpredictable and alien.

That is why I think the Geth need to make the first move towards peace.  They have the facilities to communicate with the Quarians - they are more technologically advanced than them and they have more than enough resources. After the Geth attempt for peace, it would of course fall on the Quarians to give it a shot. I think Tali would be distrustful, but she's demonstrated that she has the wisdom to try working with them.