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Does Tali have cybernetic implants?

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^Well Harbinger says she does.

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Mesina2 wrote...

^Well Harbinger says she does.


As do her stats when you upgrade her passive power.

"Modest cybernetic implants"


Chickenpotpie wrote...

A Quarian would be too scared to lift a gun to me. I'm 5'9", in good shape, and I can lift 85 lbs!


With what muscle?

Modifié par Machines Are Us, 15 février 2011 - 08:25 .


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Mesina2 wrote...

^Well Harbinger says she does.


Where did Harbinger say that?

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Modifié par Pacifien, 15 février 2011 - 08:32 .


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AdmiralCheez wrote...


Grunt disagrees.

"Humans, asari, salarians, all soft.  Quarians, not so much."


I am still very curious to know what he means by this.

They are cybernetic? Scaly? Just have tough skin?

Modifié par Machines Are Us, 15 février 2011 - 08:31 .


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Machines Are Us wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...


Grunt disagrees.

"Humans, asari, salarians, all soft.  Quarians, not so much."


I am still very curious to know what he means by this.

They are cybernetic? Scaly? Just have tough skin?


I think he meant tough skin. He was talking about cutting people open, I think.

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Stop feeding the trolls! They hang around for long enough as is, and the crap they leave behind takes FOREVER to get out of the carpets.



I read somewhere that originally, Bioware was going with a more traditional "gray man" alien:



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Granted, I highly doubt Quarians in their finalized form resemble the "grays" as much as at the start, but with some of the hints you get from behind the visor in both 1 & 2, you can certainly see the similarities. Would also explain the somewhat glowy/reflectiveness of the eyes.

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I hate that picture so much lol IT KEEPS STARING AT ME!!



I wonder if the eyes are reflective or are they naturally glowing.

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Ramirez Wolfen wrote...
I think he meant tough skin. He was talking about cutting people open, I think.

Actually, he seems to be talking specifically about severing spines.  So it could be that quarians have a different arrangement of spinal column.

Anyway, the statement is far too ambiguous to get much from.  He could just as easily be talking about how it's hard to punch through their suits.

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...
I wonder if the eyes are reflective or are they naturally glowing.


Reflective, in my opinion.

Modifié par NuclearBuddha, 15 février 2011 - 08:56 .


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NuclearBuddha wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...
I think he meant tough skin. He was talking about cutting people open, I think.

Actually, he seems to be talking specifically about severing spines.  So it could be that quarians have a different arrangement of spinal column.

Anyway, the statement is far too ambiguous to get much from.  He could just as easily be talking about how it's hard to punch through their suits.

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...
I wonder if the eyes are reflective or are they naturally glowing.


Reflective, in my opinion.


What exactly are the Quarians made out of? I know it's a dumb sounding question, but I always wondered this. Some of it seems to be like cloth or something (I'm not talking about the hoods, I'm not that dumb lol).

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Ramirez Wolfen wrote...
What exactly are the Quarians made out of? I know it's a dumb sounding question, but I always wondered this. Some of it seems to be like cloth or something (I'm not talking about the hoods, I'm not that dumb lol).

Flesh and bone?  Heheh.  I assume you mean their suits.  The suits are probably whatever awesome space age materials that everyone else's suits are made of.  Whatever technobabble metals, ceramic, carbon-weave, composite, synthetic diamond you want to call it.  The decorative cloths, like the hood, are probably some sort of thick, durable cloth.

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...
I think he meant tough skin. He was talking about cutting people open, I think.

Actually, he seems to be talking specifically about severing spines.  So it could be that quarians have a different arrangement of spinal column.

Anyway, the statement is far too ambiguous to get much from.  He could just as easily be talking about how it's hard to punch through their suits.


I have also considered that, although logically speaking that'd apply for all armour wearing species.

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...
I wonder if the eyes are reflective or are they naturally glowing.


Reflective, in my opinion.


Makes more sense, although I think either is cool.

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...
What exactly are the Quarians made out of? I know it's a dumb sounding question, but I always wondered this. Some of it seems to be like cloth or something (I'm not talking about the hoods, I'm not that dumb lol).

Flesh and bone?  Heheh.  I assume you mean their suits.  The suits are probably whatever awesome space age materials that everyone else's suits are made of.  Whatever technobabble metals, ceramic, carbon-weave, composite, synthetic diamond you want to call it.  The decorative cloths, like the hood, are probably some sort of thick, durable cloth.


LOLZ I did mean suits! And that seems about right (for me at least). About the eyes, I always thought that the eyes grow naturally. I don't know about reflection, because what are the eyes reflecting? And why only the eyes? If itwas reflection, wouldn't we get some more highlights of their faces? But then again, what would cause eyes to grow naturally? Maybe something like the fireflies do with their butts lol.

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Machines Are Us wrote...
I have also considered that, although logically speaking that'd apply for all armour wearing species.

Somewhat less so, I think, since Grunt's not likely to ever encounter a quarian out of a suit, and there are plenty of non-armored humans, turians, and asari running around.

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Ramirez Wolfen wrote...
About the eyes, I always thought that the eyes grow naturally. I don't know about reflection, because what are the eyes reflecting? And why only the eyes? If itwas reflection, wouldn't we get some more highlights of their faces? But then again, what would cause eyes to grow naturally? Maybe something like the fireflies do with their butts lol.

It's always been assumed that the inside of the visor had a heads-up-display on it.  ME:Ascension seems to confirm this, since it talks about how the visors provide vision mag and that sort of thing.  The light from this display would reflect from her eyes.  And not the surface of the eye:  the interior, like a cat's eyes.

Anyway:  the real reason is, of course, so that the player can see the eye.  Any speculation is just trying to make sense out of what is an aesthetic choice by the game designers.

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Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

LOLZ I did mean suits! And that seems about right (for me at least). About the eyes, I always thought that the eyes grow naturally. I don't know about reflection, because what are the eyes reflecting? And why only the eyes? If itwas reflection, wouldn't we get some more highlights of their faces? But then again, what would cause eyes to grow naturally? Maybe something like the fireflies do with their butts lol.

Ever taken a picture of a cat with the flash on, or seen a wolf at night? Their eyes "glow" when the light hits them the right way because of a piece of reflective tissue behind the retina called the tapetum lucidum. Helps them see in the dark. Some people have surmised that quarians have a similar structure and the effect is constant because of HUD light from their visor.

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...
About the eyes, I always thought that the eyes grow naturally. I don't know about reflection, because what are the eyes reflecting? And why only the eyes? If itwas reflection, wouldn't we get some more highlights of their faces? But then again, what would cause eyes to grow naturally? Maybe something like the fireflies do with their butts lol.

It's always been assumed that the inside of the visor had a heads-up-display on it.  ME:Ascension seems to confirm this, since it talks about how the visors provide vision mag and that sort of thing.  The light from this display would reflect from her eyes.  And not the surface of the eye:  the interior, like a cat's eyes.

Anyway:  the real reason is, of course, so that the player can see the eye.  Any speculation is just trying to make sense out of what is an aesthetic choice by the game designers.


Speaking of which, Tali's new visor is kind of annoying.

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I like the idea of natural bioluminescent eyes, but maybe it's some kind of implant, or even a non-invasive interface... something that constantly project directly on her eyes the datas about her suit and so on?

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Ramirez Wolfen wrote...
Speaking of which, Tali's new visor is kind of annoying.

I can only assume BW is having some fun with us.

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I quite like phonypapercut's idea about the eyes, they are reflecte of the HUD light. Although, I think bright, shiny eyes would also look good. Shale would approve.

As for a quarians 'skin?' I know I am in the minority here, but I always envisioned it as a metallic texture, but smoother than a turians. Not an exoskeleton or a robot, but just metallic skin. It would also make sense of Grunt's comment (if it is to be taken to heart, that is.)

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Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...
About the eyes, I always thought that the eyes grow naturally. I don't know about reflection, because what are the eyes reflecting? And why only the eyes? If itwas reflection, wouldn't we get some more highlights of their faces? But then again, what would cause eyes to grow naturally? Maybe something like the fireflies do with their butts lol.

It's always been assumed that the inside of the visor had a heads-up-display on it.  ME:Ascension seems to confirm this, since it talks about how the visors provide vision mag and that sort of thing.  The light from this display would reflect from her eyes.  And not the surface of the eye:  the interior, like a cat's eyes.

Anyway:  the real reason is, of course, so that the player can see the eye.  Any speculation is just trying to make sense out of what is an aesthetic choice by the game designers.


Speaking of which, Tali's new visor is kind of annoying.

This is better.
http://img830.images.../8836/taliy.jpg


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Machines Are Us wrote...

Argetlam350 wrote...

Well on the subject of what Tali looks like I find that she'd look more like this:
argetlam350.deviantart.com/favourites/38150926
Even though the mask she wears is purple I also believe her skin maybe purple as well. I'd prefer this over the the other image shown slightly above and on the last page, looks a bit to human.


The reason I think I don't particularly like this one is that she reminds me of a cat.

Personally I have no issues if quarians look very similar to humans, it's not like every species needs to be radically different.

I'm not saying she has to be radically different, I just would like to see perhaps the different skin tone and double set of nostrils, I just can't see quarians looking completely human like in the other image due to the odd leg structure and three fingers and toes. To me just doesn't seem right.


Alienmorph wrote...

Argetlam350 wrote...

Well on the subject of what Tali looks like I find that she'd look more like this:
argetlam350.deviantart.com/favourites/38150926
Even though the mask she wears is purple I also believe her skin maybe purple as well. I'd prefer this over the the other image shown slightly above and on the last page, looks a bit to human.


This one is one of my favourite interpretations... I'd just like she's got a more pallid or faded skintone (she cannot have a colorful skintone passing her whole life away from direct light because of the envirosuit) and possibly a little visible implant somewhere, like the "tecnho-dots" or her forhead in that most famous fanart. The idea of the double nostrils is quite great... it makes her immediately more alien-looking but without alterning the overall impression of looking at a face attractive for human canons too.  Dunno about the hairs... I guess that even if quarians had them Tali can't hide a Rapunzel-like locks of hairs under her helmet lol

True, I guess the purple is a bit to dark but I do like how it looks. Still has a human look but sort of alien as well which is nice. Same with the four nostrils looks great. As for hair well, I can't really image her with hair, odd but just can't for some reason. Meh I could care about the implant stuff, I guess yes she would have them but with or without it doesn't matter much to me.

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BioWare on Facebook is asking what everyone;s favorite ME2 romance is.

I supported Tali

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FsDxRAGE wrote...

BioWare on Facebook is asking what everyone;s favorite ME2 romance is.
I supported Tali

You should link that.