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Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Probably the wrong thread, but when ME1 got released, Fox News launched all sorts of crap against it because of the sex scenes (mostly, the Liara and Femshep one.) Of course, they hadn't played the game, and Bioware was able to defend it successfully because of the biology and nature of the asari.
And so, this event may have affected (mostly) the Tali and Garrus romance scenes because Bioware were forced to be more careful after the stupid accussation Fox News threw at them.

Major bummer I didn't know that. *sigh* News reporter don't know what they are saying sometimes, just so annoying. But other than that, I think that it's ok if we didn't get to see everything like in ME1, because IMO keeping things secret is letting your mind imagine, for example what Tali looks like under the helmet. I don't know if i would be happy if in ME3 we would see her face at the end.

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ChopSuaay wrote...

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Probably the wrong thread, but when ME1 got released, Fox News launched all sorts of crap against it because of the sex scenes (mostly, the Liara and Femshep one.) Of course, they hadn't played the game, and Bioware was able to defend it successfully because of the biology and nature of the asari.
And so, this event may have affected (mostly) the Tali and Garrus romance scenes because Bioware were forced to be more careful after the stupid accussation Fox News threw at them.

Major bummer I didn't know that. *sigh* News reporter don't know what they are saying sometimes, just so annoying. But other than that, I think that it's ok if we didn't get to see everything like in ME1, because IMO keeping things secret is letting your mind imagine, for example what Tali looks like under the helmet. I don't know if i would be happy if in ME3 we would see her face at the end.

"Ahh yes 'Sexbox' we have dismissed that claim"
I would like to see Tali's face mainly for one reason... so I can see what she looks like XD When I imagine her, my head starts hurting because I dont have a definative look for Quarians... I really hope they make the sex scenes better and I hope that Tali can give me a kiss >.< screw Shepard! XD

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King Gigglez wrote...

ChopSuaay wrote...

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Probably the wrong thread, but when ME1 got released, Fox News launched all sorts of crap against it because of the sex scenes (mostly, the Liara and Femshep one.) Of course, they hadn't played the game, and Bioware was able to defend it successfully because of the biology and nature of the asari.
And so, this event may have affected (mostly) the Tali and Garrus romance scenes because Bioware were forced to be more careful after the stupid accussation Fox News threw at them.

Major bummer I didn't know that. *sigh* News reporter don't know what they are saying sometimes, just so annoying. But other than that, I think that it's ok if we didn't get to see everything like in ME1, because IMO keeping things secret is letting your mind imagine, for example what Tali looks like under the helmet. I don't know if i would be happy if in ME3 we would see her face at the end.

"Ahh yes 'Sexbox' we have dismissed that claim"
I would like to see Tali's face mainly for one reason... so I can see what she looks like XD When I imagine her, my head starts hurting because I dont have a definative look for Quarians... I really hope they make the sex scenes better and I hope that Tali can give me a kiss >.< screw Shepard! XD

Awwwwww man you little dirty minded boy xD

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ChopSuaay wrote...

King Gigglez wrote...

ChopSuaay wrote...

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Probably the wrong thread, but when ME1 got released, Fox News launched all sorts of crap against it because of the sex scenes (mostly, the Liara and Femshep one.) Of course, they hadn't played the game, and Bioware was able to defend it successfully because of the biology and nature of the asari.
And so, this event may have affected (mostly) the Tali and Garrus romance scenes because Bioware were forced to be more careful after the stupid accussation Fox News threw at them.

Major bummer I didn't know that. *sigh* News reporter don't know what they are saying sometimes, just so annoying. But other than that, I think that it's ok if we didn't get to see everything like in ME1, because IMO keeping things secret is letting your mind imagine, for example what Tali looks like under the helmet. I don't know if i would be happy if in ME3 we would see her face at the end.

"Ahh yes 'Sexbox' we have dismissed that claim"
I would like to see Tali's face mainly for one reason... so I can see what she looks like XD When I imagine her, my head starts hurting because I dont have a definative look for Quarians... I really hope they make the sex scenes better and I hope that Tali can give me a kiss >.< screw Shepard! XD

Awwwwww man you little dirty minded boy xD

When I wrote that I didn;t mean that in a dirty way but now that im re-reading it... wow that is very dirty in deed XD

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I'm with King. I can't picture Tali's face, and I'm a very visual kind of guy. Seeing her face won't change my opinion of Tali in the slightest, it's just that my curiosity has gotten the best of me, and I've been curious for the past...*checks his facts quickly*...3 years (a little over) what Quarians look like. Some people are happy not knowing (and that's perfectly fine), but I REALLY want to know, hehe.

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Thats the issue for me. If I see her face I'm afraid it will change the way I see her character.

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I'm so enamored with Tali's personality, that I really don't think it would change even if she were "ugly." There are some caveats, of course. Say she had the face of a zombie or was part eaten away (or something else grotesque, you get the idea), then I would probably wish I had never seen it, but given Shepard's reaction, I think it's safe to say she will, at the least, be entrancing to look at.

Modifié par Link112, 19 février 2011 - 02:16 .


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Link112 wrote...
given Shepard's reaction, I think it's safe to say she will, at the last, be entrancing to look at.

Hell if Tali end up looking somewhat like Liz Sroka (spelled correctly?) I wouldn't mind.

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I really, really doubt tht bioware will end up making her look ugly. I wouldn't really care personally, but seeing as the romance is very focused on seeing her face and all that I don't think she will end up looking like an orc or something. That would be major trolling on bioware's part.

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Due to what the fans want I think she will be attractive, and still look alien.

And even though, I too love the mystery of Tali face. I also want to see what she looks like in ME3. It is the last of the trilogy, and if we don't see it then, then we probably never will.

The Fox News thing really annoyed me. It is stupid to publically make false accusations against something that you know NOTHING about. Absolutely nothing. Utterly stupid for such a major News organisation not to at least look up on the facts.

But it messed with public opinion of ME. And so I think that some of the romance scenes (and dialogue) in ME2 suffered as a consequence, partcularly Tali and Garrus'.

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Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...
 It is stupid to publically make false accusations against something that you know NOTHING about.


Kinda reminds me of the ''Tali betrayed Shepard'' argument.

Modifié par Nodscouter, 18 février 2011 - 01:56 .


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Yup. When I saw that comment, I was like what?! It is amusing when people haven't even played the game all the way through, and they start assuming all sorts of crap.

I remember a 'how good looking is Miranda thread out of 1000' I put about 750, but Garrus and Tali were much higher though. As a joke.

The OP put 'who is Garrus and Tali?'

Made me chuckle.

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Nodscouter wrote...

I really, really doubt tht bioware will end up making her look ugly. I wouldn't really care personally, but seeing as the romance is very focused on seeing her face and all that I don't think she will end up looking like an orc or something. That would be major trolling on bioware's part.


Ya, they really can't anyways.  I'm doing a playthrough to set up my final ME3 import and just yesterday I noticed you can almost see the outlines of her brow as well as her cheeks, nose and eyes.  You can shape most of her face from those details.  Alien looking, yes, but ugly? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I say not possible.

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Ya, they really can't anyways.  I'm doing a playthrough to set up my final ME3 import and just yesterday I noticed you can almost see the outlines of her brow as well as her cheeks, nose and eyes.  You can shape most of her face from those details.  Alien looking, yes, but ugly? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I say not possible.

There are models further back in this thread that show exactly what her placeholder face looks like.  It's nothing spectacular.

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Ya I know, but as a programmer I know that the placeholder is designed to be viewed through the effects created by the mask. Making it a poor basis for comparison. They intended for you to see those few details through her mask and I doubt they will deviate from that when and if we see her face. Hopefully the former :)

(You can tell I'm working hard at the office here btw lol)

Modifié par ImmortalWarrior, 18 février 2011 - 03:43 .


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I think they might start from the placholder face, improving the model and givin her a nice alien-looking appearence with a good texturing job. About the rest we'll see... I believe that quarians have a really human-looking face, but that everything else might be easily very alien... I won't be surprised if they don't even have the same shape of head of us under their helmets...

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When you say a differently shaped head do you mean something like the drell, perhaps?

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i think tali will look like those grey aliens we see in real life.

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Except with smaller eyes, and a human-like nose perhaps? You can see those through the mask.

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Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

When you say a differently shaped head do you mean something like the drell, perhaps?


Yes, off course no big grey head, or things too creepy, but why they should have the same headshape of us?

Modifié par Alienmorph, 18 février 2011 - 06:12 .


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I don't think they'll look like the typical grey man, I think the Salarians are already close enough to that.



Anyway, I heard once that Tali was supposed to be romanceable in ME1 but they decided against it because no one would romance her, most likely because of that people saw her as a ''little sister''

(Mmmm... bioshock). Say you had been able to romance her in ME1, would you have gone for it?

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No, nod. It was because of her appearance.



As to whether I'd romance her in ME1, yes, provided that her romance was good.

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She was, but was cut out at the last min.

There are still some small bits left out if though, in the way the dialog is delivered if you give her the geth Data

The Tone is very full of emotion, then the next line "The only thing i can give..." is flat,... so "professorial" its like a personality swipe.



Of-course i only notice this during my Replay of ME1 just before ME2s launch.

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Nod, word on the street is that it was specifically because they were worried people wouldn't like to romance her because of her "chicken" feet. 

Of course tentacle head asari were fair game :)

Modifié par ImmortalWarrior, 18 février 2011 - 06:32 .


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Yep, there are a pair of dialogues that really seems to be part of a missed romance... well, they make much more beliavable retconning her crush for Shepard at least ^__^