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Why do I have my -isims wrong? And why does them being aliens matter? If they call it something else, it doesn't make it not Communism.
Edit: A new page starting off with a political debate in a character thread. Wonderful.
Also, this for ME3:
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Where is this screenshot from? Is this from LOTSB with Shepard moded to Tali?

#9928
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It doesn't have to be LotSB. As far as I can tell someone just took a screenie of Tali when she stood at the balcony on Illium and added the subtitles and dialogue wheel.

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Fairhammer wrote...
scnr :P
Seriuously, I was more concerning about that the boobs are WAY to big at this picture. Even Samara will get jealous about such a pair.

The thought of Samara getting jealous over boobs made me burst out laughing.

Samara: Your breasts are more substantial than my own. Posted Image
Tali: Pardon me Samara?Posted Image
Samara: Do not be concerned. I shall return to my meditations while I try to suppress my new found feelings of inadequacy.Posted Image...Posted Image...Posted Image...Posted Image...(starts crying)... IT'S JUST NOT FAIR!
Tali: Ummm
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Capt_Flashheart wrote...

Fairhammer wrote...
scnr :P
Seriuously, I was more concerning about that the boobs are WAY to big at this picture. Even Samara will get jealous about such a pair.

The thought of Samara getting jealous over boobs made me burst out laughing.

Samara: Your breasts are more substantial than my own. Posted Image
Tali: Pardon me Samara?Posted Image
Samara: Do not be concerned. I shall return to my meditations while I try to suppress my new found feelings of inadequacy.Posted Image...Posted Image...Posted Image...Posted Image...(starts crying)... IT'S JUST NOT FAIR!
Tali: Ummm


BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! YOU Sir win the internetz!!!

Mind posting this golden piece into  this thread?: http://social.biowar...5/index/5485001

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disjunctionreaper wrote...

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Oooh! Does anyone have photoshop to make the sexy trio above have cowboy hats? That would be awesome!


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Garrus here looks even better than he is :devil:

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Nodscouter wrote...

But she's crying? Really?

YungD815 wrote...

Oh s***, I just notice that "The Calm Before the Storm" is yours Mozer. Haven't read much but I like so far.

Holy ****, it is his! I've read the whole thing.

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Nodscouter wrote...

Quarians are my favourites, with them being Commies. Turians second, because of their military. Drell third, because of their awesome voices.
Hmm, I think there might be a connection between my sig and my favourite races.


I wouldn't say the quarian government is communist, morely socialist. Every law of theirs is to sustain their race, and with that comes sacrifice of luxury. I will change drastically once they reclaim their homeworld.


Yes, it will change when they get back to Rannoch, doesn't mean they aren't Commies now.


They aren't really communist.  More like democratic socialism.  Communism kind of implies tyranny.  Then again, they aren't exactly a free people either.

I'm still going with democratic socialism or social democracy as the best descriptor.

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jamesp81 wrote...
Communism kind of implies tyranny. 

Why, thank you for just saying that my politcal beliefs is anti-democractic and ****. I've never been so flattered in my entire life.
If you actually think Communism implies tyrrany, fascism or any kind of dictatorship, then you really need to understand what Communism is. I'm a fully-fledged Communist, and I'm also a die-hard democrat. Does that mean I just created a paradox? No.
Please, don't say that an economic theory implies tyranny or lack of democracy. That's just wrong in so many ways. ''Democratic socialism''? So that implies that all other forms of socialism isn't democratic apparently? I have never heard the US being referred to as an example ''Democratic Capitalism'', but obviously, if you're a socialist, then people assume you hate democracy and freedom.
I'm sorry for this little rant here, but seeing as he just insulted my political views and called me a Fascist, I hope you'll excuse me.

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How about some more Tali and a lot less politics. Pretty pleeease! :wub: 

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I don't think you'd be happy either if someone insulted one of your basic beliefs in the world.

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He didn't exactly insult you, he simply stated his opinion which everyone is entitled to. An insult to you would be a direct attack on you using words.

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Nodscouter wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...
Communism kind of implies tyranny. 

Why, thank you for just saying that my politcal beliefs is anti-democractic and ****. I've never been so flattered in my entire life.
If you actually think Communism implies tyrrany, fascism or any kind of dictatorship, then you really need to understand what Communism is. I'm a fully-fledged Communist, and I'm also a die-hard democrat. Does that mean I just created a paradox? No.
Please, don't say that an economic theory implies tyranny or lack of democracy. That's just wrong in so many ways. ''Democratic socialism''? So that implies that all other forms of socialism isn't democratic apparently? I have never heard the US being referred to as an example ''Democratic Capitalism'', but obviously, if you're a socialist, then people assume you hate democracy and freedom.
I'm sorry for this little rant here, but seeing as he just insulted my political views and called me a Fascist, I hope you'll excuse me.


Sourced from dictionary.com:

Communism:

1. a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state. 2. ( often initial capital letter Posted Image) a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party. 3. ( initial capital letter Posted Image) the principles and practices of the Communist party. 4. communalism.


Don't rant at me.  I didn't write the damned dictionary, I just use the words that are in it.

Now, if you want to have a political discussion, this is not the place.  Feel free to IM me and I will tell you all about what I think of Communism.  You won't like it either, but this isn't the place.

Modifié par jamesp81, 15 mars 2011 - 05:19 .


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Nodscouter wrote...

I don't think you'd be happy either if someone insulted one of your basic beliefs in the world.


Happens to me every day.  I don't get too worked over it.

Enough of the political discussion in the Tali thread.  End it.

Modifié par jamesp81, 15 mars 2011 - 05:19 .


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You probably have all seen this but:

http://xboxlive.ign..../1155702p1.html

Ooooooh! Screens from Arrival!

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Nodscouter wrote...

I don't think you'd be happy either if someone insulted one of your basic beliefs in the world.


I don't have a problem of you defending your beliefs. But if there's one thing I've learned about political discussions on the internet, it's that nothing good usually comes from it.

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jamesp81 wrote...

They aren't really communist.  More like democratic socialism.  Communism kind of implies tyranny.  Then again, they aren't exactly a free people either.

I'm still going with democratic socialism or social democracy as the best descriptor.


I too am a supporter of communism, and it does not imply tyranny but I shall steady my tongue and respect the rules of this thread since...
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...of off-topic posts.B)

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Link112 wrote...

You probably have all seen this but:

http://xboxlive.ign..../1155702p1.html

Ooooooh! Screens from Arrival!


I didn't, thanks. You just made my day a little brighter, you know.

EDIT

Another left-wing supporter here! But plz, stop talking about politics. I have enough of that **** ruining my country at the moment, don't wanna hear it in my "relax zones" too :(

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Influ wrote...

Nodscouter wrote...

I don't think you'd be happy either if someone insulted one of your basic beliefs in the world.


I don't have a problem of you defending your beliefs. But if there's one thing I've learned about political discussions on the internet, it's that nothing good usually comes from it.

I know, but if someone, even on the internet, decided that to insult your absolutely dearest belief in your world, calling it tyrannical, wouldn't you want to defend yourself?
I'm not aiming for a debate, I'm just trying to disprove the Soviet Union = Communism that everyone seems to have lodged into their heads.

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Feel free to IM me and I will tell you all about what I think of Communism.  You won't like it either, but this isn't the place.

I care very little for your opinion of Communism or how much I like your opinion, but don't go around spreading lies about Communism. Your little dictionary really seems to have no idea what exactly Communism is. Most likely written by the people who gets the ''Communism hates democracy and wants to torture everybody'' sh*t pumped into their heads since they were 3 years old.
Edit: F*ck baby keelah.

Modifié par Nodscouter, 15 mars 2011 - 07:59 .


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All this political talk is making baby Keelah cry. You don't like making Keelah cry, do you?

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A totalitarian state does not imply tyranny. A party that share the same beliefs is in no way victimising its people.
After all, you could say that elected democratic parties are totalitarian, but you do not (ususually) assume that they are tyrants.

But I do agree that quarian politics is very similar to communism in the Migrant Fleet. It is a system that works very well (except for the Admiralty Board) for their situation. That is because quarians work together and each pull their own weight, and so they contribute to the self-sufficient ways of the Migrant Fleet.

And the 'redistribution of wealth' is certainly the most sensible method for their situation.

Nod, take some Hallex Posted Image

Modifié par Tasha vas Nar Rayya, 15 mars 2011 - 08:12 .


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Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

A totalitarian state does not imply tyranny. A party that share the same beliefs is in no way victimising its people.
After all, you could say that elected democratic parties are totalitarian, but you do not (ususually) assume that they are tyrants.

But I do agree that quarian politics is very similar to communism in the Migrant Fleet. It is a system that works very well (except for the Admiralty Board) for their situation. That is because quarians work together and each pull their own weight, and so they contribute to the self-sufficient ways of the Migrant Fleet.

And the 'redistribution of wealth' is certainly the most sensible method for their situation.

Nod, take some Hallex Posted Image


You could make a case that the Migrant Fleet's government is totalitarian.  They give up a lot of personal freedoms (as Tali mentions in ME1).  However, it's a benign totalitarianism in that it's apparently what their society has decided on almost universally.  There is also the whole necessity thing.  They're in such a bad way that they have no choice but to impose a permanent system of rationing.

So while that's all well and good for the Migrant Fleet, my Shep's condition for marrying Tali after he kicks the crap out of the Reapers is that we won't be living in the Migrant Fleet.  Shep likes the land of maximum personal freedom, and that's where he'll live.

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The Migrant fleet sounds like a good place to stay, once I've restructured the government to a more democratic and communist view of course.
And Tasha, you if anyone should know how personal this is to me.

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I do man! I was only joking though, so I hope I didn't offend you (after all, I am supporting your argument ;)

Freedom is great, but you can never have total freedom, it is more like a concept than an actuality. So political ideologies that 'claim' to embody freedom are pretty much obselete anyway.

And I think that like you said, quarians all seem to agree with the political structure. There appears to be no opposing parties.

And that's what I'm saying, that the communist-like political structure that quarians have is a necessity for them to survive.

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Nodscouter wrote...

Influ wrote...

Nodscouter wrote...

I don't think you'd be happy either if someone insulted one of your basic beliefs in the world.


I don't have a problem of you defending your beliefs. But if there's one thing I've learned about political discussions on the internet, it's that nothing good usually comes from it.

I know, but if someone, even on the internet, decided that to insult your absolutely dearest belief in your world, calling it tyrannical, wouldn't you want to defend yourself?
I'm not aiming for a debate, I'm just trying to disprove the Soviet Union = Communism that everyone seems to have lodged into their heads.

jamesp81 wrote...
Feel free to IM me and I will tell you all about what I think of Communism.  You won't like it either, but this isn't the place.

I care very little for your opinion of Communism or how much I like your opinion, but don't go around spreading lies about Communism. Your little dictionary really seems to have no idea what exactly Communism is. Most likely written by the people who gets the ''Communism hates democracy and wants to torture everybody'' sh*t pumped into their heads since they were 3 years old.
Edit: F*ck baby keelah.


A fellow communist? I approve +100!!:)

But to be on topic, I think the Quarians have a communist government that works the right way.

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I don't know if you people have heard this.
Yesterday I found some Tali music: Kabuto & BC - Tali

Kabuto is the same from Those minerals

Cool.