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We've already seen quarian skeletons including the skull, so I don't expect them to look too weird under their helmets. At most they might have an exotic skin pigment(s) and funky eyes.

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Nothing wrong with mandibles, talons and an exoskeleton! *Whistles* Hehe ;D

Space vampire = Morinth.
I still think that Quarians will look like attractive robots (except they are organic, obviously.)

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Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

I still think that Quarians will look like attractive robots (except they are organic, obviously.)


How does that work?

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Some Tali pics:

I made this... cowgirl Tali.
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It's a shame you can't import the model to ME2.

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More Khelish in random places.

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The purple doesn't go very well with all that brown

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Saphra Deden wrote...

The purple doesn't go very well with all that brown


"Get your shotgun Tali, the fashion police are in town."

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She didn't choose the color. She picked it up from a dead body.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Weiser_Cain wrote...

I thought it was Galactic civilization that turned it's back on the Quarians not the other way around?


By this point the feeling is mutual.



Gust4v wrote...

Of course, not everyone will like the
that, but that is because they are jerks. Jerks are everywhere, even
Harbinger is a jerk.


I think resistance to serious relationships between different species is a natural, logical, and ultimately good thing. It's especially important for quarians who need a stable birthrate.

Nope, xenophobes don't send us their children. If they were xenophobes they'd act more like the collectors.

Saphra Deden wrote...

We've already seen quarian skeletons including the skull, so I don't expect them to look too weird under their helmets. At most they might have an exotic skin pigment(s) and funky eyes.

Where have we seen a skull?

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Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

'Go for the optics!!' Love it! And Minsc was so great. But very different to Tali.

I got annoyed when I read on the ME wiki that Tali had similarities to Aerie?! Does she heck!


She has one similarity, besides that she is the youngest (i think ...) in the crew, and being the most exotic, the name of her drone is the  same as the name of Aries God, she also has one of Aries catchphrases, when she says something like,

No one is as fast as Chitika bla bla

Ari always stastes: Faster than chitika blabla if you give a Moveorder, which is so similar I think its a BG2 reference also. 

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Weiser_Cain wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Weiser_Cain wrote...

I thought it was Galactic civilization that turned it's back on the Quarians not the other way around?


By this point the feeling is mutual.



Gust4v wrote...

Of course, not everyone will like the
that, but that is because they are jerks. Jerks are everywhere, even
Harbinger is a jerk.


I think resistance to serious relationships between different species is a natural, logical, and ultimately good thing. It's especially important for quarians who need a stable birthrate.

Nope, xenophobes don't send us their children. If they were xenophobes they'd act more like the collectors.

Saphra Deden wrote...

We've already seen quarian skeletons including the skull, so I don't expect them to look too weird under their helmets. At most they might have an exotic skin pigment(s) and funky eyes.

Where have we seen a skull?


N7 mission where you have to save that Quarian. They are probably only  place holders, but still.

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Quole wrote...

N7 mission where you have to save that Quarian. They are probably only  place holders, but still.



One of the forum member's who does a lot of modding work, said that skeleton is nothing more than a place holder use for all. Can't find the post, but I've seen his work. He'd know.

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Hmm, as you can see at the bottom, the signature isnt working properly for me, tried all variations of spaces i can think of, but my record so far is a "empty picture box with X and code" imagine. any ideas?

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The first [img]
Is [img], not [img ]

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Nodscouter wrote...

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@Alienmorph, it literally took me 5 minutes to understand that by "hudge sondage" you meant "huge survey" in French (or "hudgen Sunday" if your Swedish :P). Please stick to English, most of us have enough trouble with that.

I should note that this is complete jibberish in Swedish.


I'm sorry, most of my knowledge of Sweden is based off the Swedish backpackers that frequent the beaches I surf at and Ikea commercials. All I know for certian about Sweden is that every woman is an uber hot blonde in short-shorts, every guy wears a black skivvy and reading glasses, and they're nieghbours with these charming guys:
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Getting super back to topic;

Alienmorph wrote...
....any not-quarian should be "quarantined"...

I'd just like to say I think it's more than a concidence "Quarian" and "quarantine" sound so similar. Also what we can make of Quarian faces under their masks (Tali in particular) looks very similar to humans anatomically, just like most of their other features. NuclearBuddah (edit: whoops, I meant Buddha) once said that Quarians are mammal analogs. I wouldn't expect anything too different to our faces, and I'd honestly prefer something like the avatar that Jacob's rocking.

Probably nobody but me has thought into it this far, but Quarians might have evolved in similar conditions to us as they strike me as one of a few races other than humans that could throw a spear convincingly. One of the reasons modern humans out competed the Neanderthals was because our shoulder joints were better able to throw stuff (spears, clubs, boomerangs, whatever) at prey.
More importantly our eyes and brains also evolved to calculate distance and find targets at incredible speeds. To this day every human is naturally gifted with the ability to find and line up a target by reflex (faster we can consciously "think" about it). By a random bit of luck this naturally evolved software makes us very good at aiming guns (I bet mother nature facepalmed BIGTIME when she realised that one). Where am I going with this you may ask? Well, I'm suggesting that Quarians, Humans, any race whose shoulders look like they could pitch a fastball (the predator races, if you will), should be more accurate and faster gunslingers than the races who would suck at baseball pitching. For example I can't really see a Krogan sniper outdoing a Quarian sniper.

Modifié par Capt_Flashheart, 03 avril 2011 - 08:47 .


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Yeah, @ Warlord Thuran, you need to delete that space after 'img' in your first one in your sig.

And MagicGis, I believe it is Chikitta Vas Paws (is what Tali calls her combat drone, and also one of Aeries battle cries.) Although no one knows how to spell it, me included :D
And it is the name of a gnomish God whom Aerie began to worship due to the influence of her adopted father, Quayle (I think) who was a gnome. Yes. I have played BG more times than I can count :D

@ Saphra Dedan. It works like how I said. In my imagination, they will look like an attractive robot on the outside, except they will be organic.

And Flashheart, only you would think about something in that much depth :P
However, I think you can evolve in different ways in order to be a successful predator. So even though quarians may have better aim, Krogan have brute strength and toughness. On the other hand, turians have all three, but are less tough than Krogans.

It would be interesting to see how they evolved though. I imagine that they relied on aim, because of their advancement in technology (using shotties.) Which meant they no longer had as much use for strength and toughness.

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Yes, be afraid of the Finns.
And I believe it was Chikitikka Fastpaws in Baldurs Gate and Chikitikka vas Paus in ME2.

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That's the one! Thankyou!

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if legion and tali mounted their attack drones and had a race from the normandy 2's cockpit to the Hammerhead's hangar, who would win? remember, nobody is faster than chiktikka vas paus but legion has hax.

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We have to have a scene like that in ME3.

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Isn't there a fanart of that? Tali's drone has a name. If Legion had named his combat drone, then perhaps he would win...
Also, Tali and femshep cut dialogue...

#10646
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Nodscouter wrote...

We have to have a scene like that in ME3.


Tali would win^^ because looking at her general behaivor with Legion and Shepard, if it looks like he would win and Shepard is watching, she would use her Shotgun and Pump Legion down, so his drone vanishes.

@ Tasha
jeah I am with you on that one. I even still play BG2, the modding community is wonderful, and because of that it still runs in my top 5 of all time. I would hope fans could continue ME like that, if Bioware really stops after part 3, because I just dont want it to end. Thats also my main Problem with Dragonage 2. I liked Dragon Age for being a bit like BG2 ...but now ...sigh... Thank you for helping me with the name. Have to admit I only played the german Version of BG2, so I wasnt sure how to translate the name of her god or write it :) Ah now I have to play BG2 again, with the wonderful Fade mod...thats a great charakter btw... not an offical one but sooo good, everyone should try it ^^

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Haven't done that one. I got Kivan into BG2 with this great mod. With some mancing dialogue too! (Not surprising that I like Kivan as a Garrusmancer eh?)
And I can still replay the damn game time and time again! ME has replayability, but I hope I never bore of it like BG.

If we have more Tali in ME3 then it would be better! As for the combat drone, I'm sure that if Shepard has gone for Tali, then he may 'adjust' the race so that Tali wins... Hehe.

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Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Haven't done that one. I got Kivan into BG2 with this great mod. With some mancing dialogue too! (Not surprising that I like Kivan as a Garrusmancer eh?)
And I can still replay the damn game time and time again! ME has replayability, but I hope I never bore of it like BG.

If we have more Tali in ME3 then it would be better! As for the combat drone, I'm sure that if Shepard has gone for Tali, then he may 'adjust' the race so that Tali wins... Hehe.


Sure my Shep would help her, and if its just because he knows, Legion doesnt really care  if he wins ...or .... they. On the other Hand.. he will not be alive in my ME3 so ... What i think is even if Shep has not fallen for her she would cheat. First of all she doesnt want to look bad in front of him, she always trys to impress maybe a little too hard. Also Legion still is a geth, she would never loose to a geth ^^

here is the Link to the mod btw ^^... try it you will like it ;)

http://www.gilalion.com/fademod.htm

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MagicGis wrote...

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Haven't done that one. I got Kivan into BG2 with this great mod. With some mancing dialogue too! (Not surprising that I like Kivan as a Garrusmancer eh?)
And I can still replay the damn game time and time again! ME has replayability, but I hope I never bore of it like BG.

If we have more Tali in ME3 then it would be better! As for the combat drone, I'm sure that if Shepard has gone for Tali, then he may 'adjust' the race so that Tali wins... Hehe.


Sure my Shep would help her, and if its just because he knows, Legion doesnt really care  if he wins ...or .... they.

Their gamer profile tells a different tale.

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Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

However, I think you can evolve in different ways in order to be a successful predator. So even though quarians may have better aim, Krogan have brute strength and toughness. On the other hand, turians have all three, but are less tough than Krogans.



Krogans probably evolved with a focus on strength because they hunted the large and powerful creatures of Tuchanka in close quarters. The same thing happened with the Neanderthals hunting mammoths. It worked fine until the mammoths went extinct. Fortunately for the Krogans Tuchanka is never short on big game animals.


It would be interesting to see how they evolved though. I imagine that they relied on aim, because of their advancement in technology (using shotties.) Which meant they no longer had as much use for strength and toughness.

But by the time the Quarians invented guns the they would be more or less fully evolved. Evolution stops when a species has overcome all dangers in its environment. This is because evolution relies on natural selection: a wonderful force that supports benificial genes in a species by killing the individuals who don't have them. It only works if a new threat can kill off enough of the species to force it to change for survival. This hasn't really happened to the Quarians until recently with Geth uprising. But before that, every single technology they invented which increased their survival rate would have actually worked to keep them from changing. For example, why suffer a billion deaths to develop a natural resistance to radiation when they could invent shields and not let anyone die?

You've inspired me to think of an interesting point however. Living on sterile ships should not have weakened the Quarians immune systems the way it did, evolution doesn't work that fast or that way. So if the problem isn't genetics, we're supposed to believe that Quarian immune systems simply don't get the conditioning needed to stay strong. I don't buy that either because the Quarians still use vaccines and such. So basically the whole "Quarians have weak immune systems because they live in space" thing is just a massive plot hole! Or am I missing something?

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