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[Alienmorph]

Squadmate, off course, also considered that she can be exiled I see her becoming admiral as ending of her storyline and not her initial status in ME3.

[Maderek]

Hell, I'd just make her an admiral just for ****s.

*flotilla falls apart*

Oh, Tali! You gots some 'splainin' to do!

[Thy Bleed]

Well As long as they find a cure for that you know little problem with Humans And Quarians not being bio compatible and all.

I actually had a thought about that. I was hoping Mordin found a cure for that little incompatibility. And to hell with Bioware if they treat us like Bungie...

[MadCat221]

Thy Bleed wrote...


Well As long as they find a cure for that you know little problem with Humans And Quarians not being bio compatible and all.

I actually had a thought about that. I was hoping Mordin found a cure for that little incompatibility. And to hell with Bioware if they treat us like Bungie...

Um... The genomes of humans and quarians didn't even evolve on the same planet.  The differences are irreconciliable.

I'd rather Mordin kickstart the quarian immune system again.

Also... funny idea for Admiral Tali.  If you go Pro-Peace, Xen goes off and gets herself Sheparded when she tries to hijack the Geth anyway.  If you're pro-War, Koris goes off to try and warn the Geth, and also gets himself killed.  Whichever side you espoused at the end of Tali's treason trial (default to war if you didn't), the admiral that fills Rael's seat is an advocate of that.  You endorse Tali as another Admiral.  If peace, Gerrel doesn't want to show disunity among the Admirals or is otherwise convinced that a bloodless reclamation of Rannoch can really happen.  However... the Conclave is still torn and squabbling.

So the Admirals overrule them.  Tali's first and last act as an Admiral is to take part in the admiralty vote to dissolve the Conclave.

The first order of business for the quarians is to reconstitute a civilian-led government, so we may end up seeing the Admiralty serve as civilian government leaders.

Modifié par MadCat221, 11 avril 2011 - 03:39 .

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Yeah, I think that all the problems of the quarians would be easier to resolve if their immune system was significantly improved. It would be easier for them to find a homeworld, which would make it easier for them to survive and not all be concentrated in one place. It would also mean that they would be less vulnerable to the heretic geth.

[magnuskn]

As a squadmate and romance, most certainly. I especially hope that we can continue the romance seamlessly ( there is enough conflict potential, like the issues with her immune system, not being able to have kids and the race differences ), not return to the two of them having had some sort of falling out and having to re-kindle the romance.

[MadCat221]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Yeah, I think that all the problems of the quarians would be easier to resolve if their immune system was significantly improved. It would be easier for them to find a homeworld, which would make it easier for them to survive and not all be concentrated in one place. It would also mean that they would be less vulnerable to the heretic geth.

The heretic Geth are no more.  They're either dead in space or all migrating back to join with the greater Collective now.

Besides... even if there were surviving Heretics, the True Geth now have evidence that the Heretics pose a direct threat and intent.  And you know how reactive the Geth are to direct threats to their existence.

...Unless you didn't do Legion's loyalty mission.  Then you have 20 times as many Geth to deal with as you did in ME1.  Nice job only shooting and not asking questions, Hero.

Modifié par MadCat221, 11 avril 2011 - 03:43 .

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

I got the impression that you only destroyed the geth on that ship. I very much doubt that all the heretic geth were there on that one ship (think back to how they were everyewhere in ME1.)

[MadCat221]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

I got the impression that you only destroyed the geth on that ship. I very much doubt that all the heretic geth were there on that one ship (think back to how they were everyewhere in ME1.)

I recall hearing some Citadel News report that there were several geth ships dead in space after that mission was done.  Been a while since I heard it, though...

[Blze001]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

I got the impression that you only destroyed the geth on that ship. I very much doubt that all the heretic geth were there on that one ship (think back to how they were everyewhere in ME1.)

Actually, it makes sense if you look at it from a computer standpoint (CIS major, gotta nerd out here). See, the Geth operate in what basically amounts to a server-client network. The run-times (individuals) are stored in the server and periodically downloaded into clients (the physical things you fight) when needed. The heritic station was the server farm for the rogue geth.

Destroying it would isolate whatever run-times happened to be downloaded to a platform at the time. Yes, there are survivors, but they are isolated and would rapidly go out of date, thereby effectively rendering their threat minimal at best.

Rewriting them is actually the more effective option, since the run-times downloaded into platforms would periodically check the server for updates. Once they do that, those run-times are rewritten as well.

That's why I always choose rewriting... it's more effective. 

Modifié par Blze001, 11 avril 2011 - 04:11 .

[jacobOriley]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

I got the impression that you only destroyed the geth on that ship. I very much doubt that all the heretic geth were there on that one ship (think back to how they were everyewhere in ME1.)

You're probably right Tasha, but MC makes a good point. If you didn't rewrite the heretic geth ( one option ) and blow up the ship,  the True geth wouldn't tolerate the surviving heretics. Option 2, rewrite, hopefully doesn't come back to bite you in the butt. That's the option most of my Sheps took. ( for god's sake, keep it quiet....I wouldn't want the renegade Sheps to find out. )

Modifié par jacobOriley, 11 avril 2011 - 04:19 .

[MadCat221]

I think there may be a boon to rewriting instead of just destroying them: The Former Heretics would bring back memories of Reaper plans. Possibly some hard intel.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

What option do you think would be more preferable to the quarians? Rewriting, or destruction? If they knew about the state of mind of geth like Legion anyway.

[Evil_Sarevok]

Still wouldnt mind asking Legion what 7 / 0 is but yeah, although iirc there isnt one Geth per 'client', its multiple but still, same rules apply.

Considering Geth can make themselves, and make new Geth, if one was left alone chances are it would just rebuild another server since it would probably have enough Geth variants in the one suit to carry out the various tasks to do so.

I'm still slightly looking forward to ME3 to see if we can make Legion/Tali see eye to eye since, if we went paragon we at least stopped them killing one another, might be nice to build on that a bit.

[MadCat221]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

What option do you think would be more preferable to the quarians? Rewriting, or destruction? If they knew about the state of mind of geth like Legion anyway.

Preferable?  Destruction.  Tali herself opts for it.

Beneficial?  I'm predicting that if you Rewrite, the True Geth gain some valuable intel on the Reapers from the return of the Heretics.  And since "cooperation furthers mutual goals", the Geth might share that intel.  Good for all under the looming threat of the Reapers.

[AnimaTempli101]

If memory serves most of the admirals, even if Legion explains the Geth viewpoint, still favor destruction/re-enslavement than co-existence.

[jacobOriley]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

What option do you think would be more preferable to the quarians? Rewriting, or destruction? If they knew about the state of mind of geth like Legion anyway.

I know the preference is to destroy them for a lot of players (assumption), but doesn't either option have the possiblity to lead to the same result for the Tali's race?  That result is reclaiming their homeworld.

In the mean time they have at least one ship on a deep space exploration to find other world's to colonize ( according to the book ).

To me it's better to rewrite, broker peace and petition for the geth's help in rebuild.

[Mozer121]

Maderek wrote...

Hell, I'd just make her an admiral just for ****s.

*flotilla falls apart*

Oh, Tali! You gots some 'splainin' to do!

Squad member all the way!

...Maybe Admiral part time.

[MadMapper]

Squad member. They can happily live together even without children, as far as I'm concerned.

[jamesp81]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

I got the impression that you only destroyed the geth on that ship. I very much doubt that all the heretic geth were there on that one ship (think back to how they were everyewhere in ME1.)

I've never chosen the path to destroy the heretic geth, I've always re-written them.

However, in the rewrite, Legion does make it clear that the rewrite will affect all heretic geth with time as the virus propagated through their network.

I wonder if setting the virus to destroy them does the same thing, except it just deletes rather than rewrites them?  The result of that would be a bunch of geth platforms in a state of shutdown littering the place.

Modifié par jamesp81, 11 avril 2011 - 06:12 .

[jamesp81]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

What option do you think would be more preferable to the quarians? Rewriting, or destruction? If they knew about the state of mind of geth like Legion anyway.

It wouldn't matter what was more preferable.  The ****** Brigade (ie the Admiralty Board) would react in some emotionally charged, not well thought out fashion like they always do.

[technoquarian]

Quole, of course you can use it~ that's what it's there for. I'm glad you like it.

Moar worksafe version of that signature thing, for those who are concerned:

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OT: Tali for Admiral. I'm not entirely convinced that she's too young- sure, she's younger than any of the current admirals, but after serving on the Normandy, I think she realizes the benefit of working for peace with the geth. Maybe that way they can get their home back. I believe that Saren's brother was a general at age 18- granted, turians have a far more militaristic culture but life in the flotilla isn't a cakewalk, either, and I think it'd pretty much force people to grow up fast. Not sure, though, and I have no idea how they'd reconcile it with her being "vas Normandy" or the romance w/ Shepard thing.

I'm hoping that rewriting the geth doesn't come back to bite us (and the quarians) down the line. I've heard some other worrying things that suggest that some Paragon-ish options may lead to some pain down the line.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

True, and then they would put it out to be a power struggle between the three of them.

But I too think that the quarians would be split over it. If they knew that the geth who weren't heretics don't wish to hunt down their creators, then they would rewrite the heretics who do wish them killed. Some quarians would see it as an opportunity for more allies. On the other hand, like when my Shepards are choosing, some would just want to do without the risk.