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[Collider]

Doesn't ascension say that the quarians will exhaust their resources in less than a century?

[Homebound]

Saphra Deden wrote...

There are something like 600,000 drell on Khaje (or however you spell the hanar homeworld). There might be more on the actual drell homeworld, but they're living in a post-apocalyptic existence.

thane pretty much tells you that everyone died in a nuclear fire.

hope the admiralty board doesnt break its legs against the geth.

[NuclearBuddha]

Collider wrote...
Doesn't ascension say that the quarians will exhaust their resources in less than a century?

Yeah, something along those lines.

[awddc]

Collider wrote...

Doesn't ascension say that the quarians will exhaust their resources in less than a century?

Yes, its their ships they are to old and can´t be fixed in that time

[NuclearBuddha]

Saphra Deden wrote...
You know, the quarians might have been better off becoming a client race of the turians. By now, they'd have a population more likely in the hundreds of millions and would not be confined to suits. They'd also probably stand the same chance they do now of getting back their homeworld.

Poor dynamics.  The quarians were productive members of galactic society a thousand years before contact with the turians.  Additionally, they were expelled from the Citadel, a decision that presumably the turians had a hand in since they would've been on the Council at that point.

Secondly, what would they possibly have to offer the turians?  The volus drive the galactic economy.  It's worth it to the turians to take care of them.  The quarians?  They'd just be a charity case.  The turians would be fools to take that deal.

[AlexShepard89]

just bought ascension

[Faust1991]

i think the better question is, what could the quarians offer the community besides engineering labor?

[Someone With Mass]

Collider wrote...

Doesn't ascension say that the quarians will exhaust their resources in less than a century?

Yeah, but that's just the conclusion of one captain, though. There might be others that have a different opinion on the matter.

[NuclearBuddha]

Faust1991 wrote...
i think the better question is, what could the quarians offer the community besides engineering labor?

Given the complex housing and medical requirements, there are far cheaper ways to get engineering labor.

[FsDxRAGE]

AlexShepard89 wrote...

just bought ascension

That book made me hate Cerberus even more

[Nashiktal]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...
This is probably it. The Quarians(I believe) have the smallest population of all the intergalactic species, have poor relations with almost all the citadel races, poor relations with all the terminous races, their fleet is growing three centuries old (so essentially they are flying hunks of scrap), and their immune system leaves almost ANY dangerous task from construction to combat riskier than normal.

If the Quarians don't find somewhere to settle they are going to be in trouble.

In fairness, I think there might actually be fewer drell.  But they're a Council race and are getting lots of money thrown at their problems by their patrons.  The quarians are on their own.

I wasn't counting the Drell, as they don't have their own means of FTL travel outside of the Hanar.

[MadMapper]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

AlexShepard89 wrote...

just bought ascension

That book made me hate Cerberus even more

That book made me going Renegade against Cerberus even more 

<3 And thanks to the third book another volunteer joined Shepard's "Death List of Cerberus Operatives" <3

[Faust1991]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Faust1991 wrote...
i think the better question is, what could the quarians offer the community besides engineering labor?

Given the complex housing and medical requirements, there are far cheaper ways to get engineering labor.

Yeah the way i look at it is, the quarians "time" was a while back, they ****ed up and are in a hole they can't dig themselves out of.  Their military power is questionable at best (migrant MARINES my ass) and right now they're just a big huge floating fleet. We've seen they're good with technology (A.I more so), but it looks like at this point NOBODY trusts AI's. Whats a little more concerning is if they do win against the Geth, what they'll do afterwards, because from what one of the admirals seem to put out? Revenge on everybody else for beating them down wouldn't be ruled out "former glory" n all that crap.

[NuclearBuddha]

Saphra Deden wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...
Secondly, what would they possibly have to offer the turians?  The volus drive the galactic economy.  It's worth it to the turians to take care of them.  The quarians?  They'd just be a charity case.  The turians would be fools to take that deal.

The volus are just as expensive to house as the quarians. More-so, actually. Recall, please, that I said this should have happened 300 years ago. If it had there would have been no serious quarian housing requirements because they wouldn't have weak immune systems and wouldn't need their own food supply. They'd be able to eat the same thing as the turians do.

As for what the turians get out of it, easy. They get any remaining quarian wealth, access to any surviving great quarian minds, and gain several million more draftees for their military. It's a whole new population to tax. A population that can still grow.

You're forgetting an important difference between the quarians and the volus.  The volus have planets and a functioning society and economy.  Following the Morning War, the quarians had none of the above, AND had managed to unwittingly break AI-creation laws.  They had nothing but a bad reputation and the ships they fled in.  Poor deal for the turians.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Nashiktal wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...
This is probably it. The Quarians(I believe) have the smallest population of all the intergalactic species, have poor relations with almost all the citadel races, poor relations with all the terminous races, their fleet is growing three centuries old (so essentially they are flying hunks of scrap), and their immune system leaves almost ANY dangerous task from construction to combat riskier than normal.

If the Quarians don't find somewhere to settle they are going to be in trouble.

In fairness, I think there might actually be fewer drell.  But they're a Council race and are getting lots of money thrown at their problems by their patrons.  The quarians are on their own.

I wasn't counting the Drell, as they don't have their own means of FTL travel outside of the Hanar.

The hanar transported a few hundred thousand drell to Kahje. And the Flotilla houses about 17 million quarians. However, the drell aren't a citadel race I believe... They are more of a 'client' race of the Hanar, who are a Citadel race.

As for quarians going under the turians' wing. I think that for now, they are capable of self sufficience, but if it is as Ascension proposes, that quarians will have their resources run out in a century, then by then they will have reclaimed/found another homeworld.

SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bear in mind, that the GI articles states that in the context of ME3, quarians are in the process of reclaiming Rannoch, so it may be much sooner than a century.

[NuclearBuddha]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...
The hanar transported a few hundred thousand drell to Kahje. And the Flotilla houses about 17 million quarians. However, the drell aren't a citadel race I believe... They are more of a 'client' race of the Hanar, who are a Citadel race.

As for quarians going under the turians' wing. I think that for now, they are capable of self sufficience, but if it is as Ascension proposes, that quarians will have their resources run out in a century, then by then they will have reclaimed/found another homeworld.

SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bear in mind, that the GI articles states that in the context of ME3, quarians are in the process of reclaiming Rannoch, so it may be much sooner than a century.

According to one of the CDN articles, there are two levels of Council membership:  "associate" and "full."  Full is the turians/salarians/asari/humanity and associate are races like the elcor, hanar, volus.  Since the volus count, and are a client race, the drell probably do, too.

[Spartas Husky]

The Quarians from what we can gather hold the largest Fleet in the galaxy. A single Geth fleet is 5000+ ships. If The Geth and Quarians fear an all out conflict with one another. The Quarians would definitely not end up as a Turian client race.

Should their resource deplete they can take a planet. They haven't wanted to do so by force because they need those resources against the Geth. Should the need arise to settle down immidiately and the Geth pose to much of a risk for quick colonization. Nobody known besides the geth can stand against the Quarians. ANd even if they Wanted to, the Turians took heavy looses, the Asari did so as well, and the Humans. 3 of the 4 major military powers in Citadel space took a huge beating from Soverign's attack.

The Quarians want to preserve resources but should they be pressed on the issue nobody even if they wanted to could engage the quarians on Fleet to Fleet battles.


And sinec the quarians know their population is small, most likely they'll build underground structures as they are well adept at doing. So any planet they wish to take, any structure above ground is expendable.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

I have faith that the quarians' technical expertise will save them from ever being caught in a situation of their resources becoming depleted.

And thanks for clarifying Buddha. Would that make the drell an 'associate associate race' then? Hehe.

[Nashiktal]

Tech expertise is actually what causes such a big drain on resources. Which is one reason why so many species hates the Quarians at the moment.

[Faust1991]

Nashiktal wrote...

Tech expertise is actually what causes such a big drain on resources. Which is one reason why so many species hates the Quarians at the moment.

How so?, im not disagreeing i just want to know why

[Homebound]

when i see a quarian, i see an untapped workforce. when a volus sees a quarian, they see the butt of my rifle.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Hellbound555 wrote...

when i see a quarian, i see an untapped workforce. when a volus sees a quarian, they see the butt of my rifle.

Potentially, yes. They are unrivalled in technical expretise. But it may not be fair to expoit them in that way. Unless they could no longer continue their way of life on the flotilla.

[Homebound]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

when i see a quarian, i see an untapped workforce. when a volus sees a quarian, they see the butt of my rifle.

Potentially, yes. They are unrivalled in technical expretise. But it may not be fair to expoit them in that way. Unless they could no longer continue their way of life on the flotilla.

who said anything about exploiting quarians? that would be mad. it would be like sticking a robotic engineer at a lemonade stand. maybe im just being uncommonly fair but thats how i see it.