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MadMapper wrote...

*If* you want to see Tali's face revealed in ME3, how would you want to see it done?

- Part of a love scene, like in ME2, but with the camera in a position where you can see her face?

This, but in a love scene like ME1 >.<

- Or something else entirely,

This... :? for the sake of science :mellow:
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The problem with ME1's romance scenes were the generic animations.
I would prefer something more unique, as the ME2 romance scenes were. I rather liked the Tali, Garrus, and Thane romance scenes.

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Collider wrote...

The problem with ME1's romance scenes were the generic animations.
I would prefer something more unique, as the ME2 romance scenes were. I rather liked the Tali, Garrus, and Thane romance scenes.

They were fabuslously done

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I just don't want to see another bra-strap.

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Arcian wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

But these "pest" happen to be pest that can outdo anyone else in the galaxy in terms of military strength, engineering, mining or programming. 

I laughed really hard at first, but then I stopped.

You don't really believe this, do you?


....what part of it is not true?. Not saying the quarians are pest myself just saying what the overall galatic opinion of them is.

Again what part of it is not true?
-Overall idea that they are pest by the galactic community?. Not syaing is my opinion of course.
-They are always better miners?
-Theya re better programmers?
-They have the largest fleet in the galaxy?

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Quarians don't have the best military.

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Weiser_Cain wrote...

Quarians don't have the best military.


can you point out where I mentioned "best"?

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Spartas Husky wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

But these "pest" happen to be pest that can outdo anyone else in the galaxy in terms of military strength, engineering, mining or programming. 

I laughed really hard at first, but then I stopped.

You don't really believe this, do you?


....what part of it is not true?. Not saying the quarians are pest myself just saying what the overall galatic opinion of them is.

Again what part of it is not true?
-Overall idea that they are pest by the galactic community?. Not syaing is my opinion of course.
-They are always better miners?
-Theya re better programmers?
-They have the largest fleet in the galaxy?


Mining corporations could be a lot better then them, we don't know enough to  make a sensible judgement.

Yes, they probably are the best enginners and programmers due to their current situation

Biggest fleet =/= Military superiority. Their navy is small, most of the Migrant Fleet is comprisied of civilian ships that have no weapons or defenses.

Modifié par henno13, 28 avril 2011 - 07:16 .


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That large fleet can barely hold together with constant maintenance without combat, its a bunch of outdated scrap. They can't even fight the geth on their homeworld, let alone take on the moder military of the council.

I'm sorry, I love the Quarians, but they are in a bad place.

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Spartas Husky wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

But these "pest" happen to be pest that can outdo anyone else in the galaxy in terms of military strength, engineering, mining or programming. 

I laughed really hard at first, but then I stopped.

You don't really believe this, do you?


....what part of it is not true?. Not saying the quarians are pest myself just saying what the overall galatic opinion of them is.

Again what part of it is not true?
-Overall idea that they are pest by the galactic community?. Not syaing is my opinion of course.
-They are always better miners?
-Theya re better programmers?
-They have the largest fleet in the galaxy?

Mining and programming won't do them any good in a war, they're super-vulnerable to physical damage and all of their ships are aged hand-me-downs inferior to everything else in the galaxy. On the flip side, the geth have the AI capability to use programming in ship vs ship combat, their weapons are better, their tecnology is better and units are disposable because they can be rebuilt in a couple of days or weeks. I know what I would choose to fight the reapers.

You have the right to admire or like the quarians, but don't make them out to be some kind of mary-sue Master Race species that can curbstomp everyone else when they're clearly the worst equipped species in the entire galaxy for warfare. If they try to fight the geth, they will become extinct. I'm calling it right here in this thread.

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That being said however, the Quarians have plenty of usefulness for the war against the reapers that doesn't require fighting.

The Quarians are pretty damn good at logistics for example.

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^Screw that, I'm going for both Geth and Quarian support!

BTW, I think that other races WON'T appreciate you getting Geth support.
Morale goes little down.

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Oooh, suppose the Quarians (ok, I really mean Tali :-P) discover a way to "hack" the Reapers? Or a way to interfere with Reaper communication between them and their "Indoctrinated" slaves?

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Mesina2 wrote...

^Screw that, I'm going for both Geth and Quarian support!

BTW, I think that other races WON'T appreciate you getting Geth support.
Morale goes little down.

You might be forced to only pick one of them, though. That seems to be BioWare's theme with ME3.

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Link112 wrote...

Oooh, suppose the Quarians (ok, I really mean Tali :-P) discover a way to "hack" the Reapers? Or a way to interfere with Reaper communication between them and their "Indoctrinated" slaves?


So we're going the independance day route? 

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

^Screw that, I'm going for both Geth and Quarian support!

BTW, I think that other races WON'T appreciate you getting Geth support.
Morale goes little down.

You might be forced to only pick one of them, though. That seems to be BioWare's theme with ME3.


Though I'm hoping for option but hard to get it.

Like for example you'll be only able to get them if you raise the crowd in Tali LM.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

^Screw that, I'm going for both Geth and Quarian support!

BTW, I think that other races WON'T appreciate you getting Geth support.
Morale goes little down.

You might be forced to only pick one of them, though. That seems to be BioWare's theme with ME3.

There are so many hints for peace in ME2. So having to choose one or the other would seem odd.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

^Screw that, I'm going for both Geth and Quarian support!

BTW, I think that other races WON'T appreciate you getting Geth support.
Morale goes little down.

You might be forced to only pick one of them, though. That seems to be BioWare's theme with ME3.


HNNNNGGGGG

Modifié par henno13, 28 avril 2011 - 07:46 .


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Nashiktal wrote...

That large fleet can barely hold together with constant maintenance without combat, its a bunch of outdated scrap. They can't even fight the geth on their homeworld, let alone take on the moder military of the council.

I'm sorry, I love the Quarians, but they are in a bad place.



This

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Nashiktal wrote...

That large fleet can barely hold together with constant maintenance without combat, its a bunch of outdated scrap. They can't even fight the geth on their homeworld, let alone take on the moder military of the council.

I'm sorry, I love the Quarians, but they are in a bad place.


Exactly - you have to also consider that unlike every other fleet in the galaxy, the quarians don't have a home port. They have to carry their food, supplies, and repair facilities with them. That gives them some flexibility, sure, but it also means they have to move all of that along with their general population. Which means only a small percentage of the fleet is is probably dedicated to military use. Everything else would be a transport of some sort out of necessity.

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Spartas Husky wrote...

Weiser_Cain wrote...

Quarians don't have the best military.


can you point out where I mentioned "best"?

Unless this is a misquote.

But these "pest" happen to be pest that can outdo anyone else in the galaxy in terms of military strength



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Nashiktal wrote...

Link112 wrote...

Oooh, suppose the Quarians (ok, I really mean Tali :-P) discover a way to "hack" the Reapers? Or a way to interfere with Reaper communication between them and their "Indoctrinated" slaves?


So we're going the independance day route? 


Well, I think that it's obvious that something is going to have to be done to help counter Indoctrination and the sheer power of the Reapers.  One Reaper ship was practically too much for the fleet around the Citadel to handle.  Granted, it was caught by surprise, but the lasers Sovereign had blew up ships in one go.  If it wasn't for that link between Saren and Sovereign, I imagine the outcome would have been a bit different in ME1.

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Arcian wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

But these "pest" happen to be pest that can outdo anyone else in the galaxy in terms of military strength, engineering, mining or programming. 

I laughed really hard at first, but then I stopped.

You don't really believe this, do you?


....what part of it is not true?. Not saying the quarians are pest myself just saying what the overall galatic opinion of them is.

Again what part of it is not true?
-Overall idea that they are pest by the galactic community?. Not syaing is my opinion of course.
-They are always better miners?
-Theya re better programmers?
-They have the largest fleet in the galaxy?

Mining and programming won't do them any good in a war, they're super-vulnerable to physical damage and all of their ships are aged hand-me-downs inferior to everything else in the galaxy. On the flip side, the geth have the AI capability to use programming in ship vs ship combat, their weapons are better, their tecnology is better and units are disposable because they can be rebuilt in a couple of days or weeks. I know what I would choose to fight the reapers.

You have the right to admire or like the quarians, but don't make them out to be some kind of mary-sue Master Race species that can curbstomp everyone else when they're clearly the worst equipped species in the entire galaxy for warfare. If they try to fight the geth, they will become extinct. I'm calling it right here in this thread.


if they were all handy me downs as you make em to be they wouldn't be thought of as they are. If they were handyme downs in numbers people wouldn'r bribe them to stay out of the system. Any 2nd rate garrison fleet coudl take care of the "handyme" downs.

They are a military society in all but in name. All military equipment will stay in top shape. The ones that will suffer are food production 2nd and living quarters last.

We'll agree to disagree. If they were so "malnurished"  or "poorly" equipped there would be no wide spread fear of their military.

Example. venezuelan has the largest Air force in South America... but most have been grounded for over a dozen years because of poor maintaneance.

Cmmon knowledge spreads quite easily, and neither the quarians nor the galaxy at large would feel the quarian fleet be a threat if in fact it wasn't.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

^Screw that, I'm going for both Geth and Quarian support!

BTW, I think that other races WON'T appreciate you getting Geth support.
Morale goes little down.

You might be forced to only pick one of them, though. That seems to be BioWare's theme with ME3.

I am really, really hoping that these Race Choices in ME3 are less like the Virmire situation of ME1 and more like the Loyality Conflicts of ME2 - where normally you'd have to choose between one individual/race over another, but if certain requirements are met, you'd be able to resolve the conflict in a manner that's beneficial for both sides and doesn't exclude one side's support over the other.

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Spartas Husky wrote...
If they were all handy me downs as you make em to be they wouldn't be thought of as they are. If they were handyme downs in numbers people wouldn'r bribe them to stay out of the system. Any 2nd rate garrison fleet coudl take care of the "handyme" downs.

They are a military society in all but in name. All military equipment will stay in top shape. The ones that will suffer are food production 2nd and living quarters last.

We'll agree to disagree. If they were so "malnurished"  or "poorly" equipped there would be no wide spread fear of their military.

Ah, there are alternative explanations for people trying to bribe them off.  It could be that no race wants to face the public relations nightmare of having blown up a bunch of ships packed to the gills with civilians just to keep them out of the system.

I don't know that there's a lot of fear.  I mean, the Flotilla faces pirate attacks:  see Han'Gerrel's story or Tali talking about the last quarian exiled.