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Tali'Zorah Thread *Spoiler warning!*
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Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 03:32
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Both the Evi and GPS (and for that matter the Phalanx) are nice boosts in combat strength for Tali. But yeah, with just the basic shotguns, she's definitely more in a supporting role.
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Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 03:33
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mrsph wrote...
Ironically, the geth plasma shotgun makes Tali incredibly powerful again. That thing is overpowered as hell.
Again? The Eviscerator already made her pretty overpowered. Any squad ammo mod on that thing made her an outright war machine, especially with shield drain and her drone.
The Plasma Shotgun just made her overpowered with style.
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Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 03:33
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Runescapeguy9 wrote...
In your well mannered opinion. It is about strategy and how you use squadmates. If you don't use them right, you won't get the expected results. Tali's energy drain is very useful and her combat drone is a godsend on upper difficulties.t3HPrO wrote...
I usually leave Tali to rot in Engineering. My preferred squadmates are Miranda and Legion, the 2 most useful squaddies ingame. Miranda's powers are ownage quality, while Legion has a Widow and the drone, while Tali only has a crap shotgun. It's a no-contest.
True, but no one in their right mind needs her when you've got Legion. The Energy Drain is late-game, and by then I'm taking on mostly organics with biotic barriers, so she's useless in that respect. Also, she dies ridiculously easy. On her loyalty mission (hardened playthrough), I threw her in a CORNER, behind the BEST cover available, and she STILL dies. However, me and Garrus, who were in not so solid cover, stayed alive and wiped out the geth. What the...
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Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 03:34
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Tali with the GPS isn't as broken as Zaeed or Thane with their 50% damage boost and the incisor rifle.
But it is pretty damn close.
But it is pretty damn close.
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Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 03:35
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NCLanceman wrote...
mrsph wrote...
Ironically, the geth plasma shotgun makes Tali incredibly powerful again. That thing is overpowered as hell.
Again? The Eviscerator already made her pretty overpowered. Any squad ammo mod on that thing made her an outright war machine, especially with shield drain and her drone.
The Plasma Shotgun just made her overpowered with style.
Nah...she can never overpowered. Grunt with a Revenant.
Now THAT is overpowered with STYLE.
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Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 03:35
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Then with no disrespect meant, you are doing something wrong. In my playthroughs she dies less than I do. The enemies never make it close enough to do any real damage if behind appropriate cover. Her drone also stalls them enough to line up very clear shots.t3HPrO wrote...
Also, she dies ridiculously easy. On her loyalty mission (hardened playthrough), I threw her in a CORNER, behind the BEST cover available, and she STILL dies. However, me and Garrus, who were in not so solid cover, stayed alive and wiped out the geth. What the...
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Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 03:37
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You should visit the strategy forum. Any squadmate can be made effective with the right strategy.
Except for Garrus. He likes to take rockets and bullets to the face.
No, that's a lie.
Except for when it's true.
It's usually true.
Except for Garrus. He likes to take rockets and bullets to the face.
No, that's a lie.
Except for when it's true.
It's usually true.
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Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 03:41
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I'm confused, why is a non-sapient 50,000 credit chit shooting a mech near Tali?Kikaimegami wrote...
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Yeah Garrus has some sort of death-wish, I dunno what they did to his AI. Tali's usually good about cover, only rarely does she walk into a crossfire while I'm not looking.
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Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 03:42
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Miranda and (while I had him installed) Zaeed seemed to stand atop crates and boxes instead of hide behind them. For the most part Tali was competent enough to remain in cover when required.Volrath937 wrote...
I'm confused, why is a non-sapient 50,000 credit chit shooting a mech near Tali?
Yeah Garrus has some sort of death-wish, I dunno what they did to his AI. Tali's usually good about cover, only rarely does she walk into a crossfire while I'm not looking.
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Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 03:42
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I have the opposite problem. It's weapon-based. Sniper Garrus hangs back and shotgun Tali is all aggressive.Volrath937 wrote...
Yeah Garrus has some sort of death-wish, I dunno what they did to his AI. Tali's usually good about cover, only rarely does she walk into a crossfire while I'm not looking.
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Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 03:42
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I still have no idea what makes some squadmembers rush to their deaths while ****ing Grunt stays behind cover and tries to snipe with his shotgun.
Also I noticed Tali has her shotgun right near the console when you meet her on Heastrom.
Also I noticed Tali has her shotgun right near the console when you meet her on Heastrom.
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Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 03:45
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I was running Garrus/Zaeed on Jack's recruitment, Zaeed with the assault rifle and Garrus sniper. Garrus repeatedly decided that engaging in close range combat was the best tactical decision. Having to corral him every fight got on my nerves, save hacked Tali into the party in the end.NuclearBuddha wrote...
I have the opposite problem. It's weapon-based. Sniper Garrus hangs back and shotgun Tali is all aggressive.
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Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 03:49
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You hear that? That's the sound of me loading my Widow and taking aim at your head <_<Volrath937 wrote...
I'm confused, why is a non-sapient 50,000 credit chit shooting a mech near Tali?
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Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 03:50
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To be honest, my Tali probably got more kills than me with her Geth plasma shotgun on my insanity run. She's so good now that there's a shotgun with range.
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Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 03:51
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That shotgun is absolutely godly.Mozer121 wrote...
To be honest, my Tali probably got more kills than me with her Geth plasma shotgun on my insanity run. She's so good now that there's a shotgun with range.
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Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 03:57
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Plus, you know, didn't want to upset Tali. There was so much potential for inter-party conflict there, and all we get in one line from Jacob before the 1 confrontation scene.Kikaimegami wrote...
You hear that? That's the sound of me loading my Widow and taking aim at your head <_<
Edit: Good point V
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Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 04:01
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Mozer121 wrote...
To be honest, my Tali probably got more kills than me with her Geth plasma shotgun on my insanity run. She's so good now that there's a shotgun with range.
It was just the murder machine from Mass Effect making her triumphent return
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Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 04:01
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Volrath937 wrote...
Hey now, I needed the credits more than I needed a genocidal machine to anthropomorphize. Plus, you know, didn't want to upset Tali. There was so much potential for inter-party conflict there, and all we get in one line from Jacob before the 1 confrontation scene.
To be fair, a lot of the antagonism is a bit one-sided.
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Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 04:02
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Okay...this starting to annoy me with every character in Mass Effect that I been seeing around. Why not they have hair, I been seeing it on with Jack, Quarians and the Asari. Those races and characters look very great and well done without hair.
I personally and honestly think that the Quarians/Tali would look impressive and great when they are revealed behind their suits. Mass Effect: Accession I read, describe the Quarians very well, not revealing though but I pictured it. They shouldn't have hair which they are an Alien Race. It would make it, like some other games than. Every character and species are different in their own way, they do not need to be the same.
I agree Tali did grew and grown up alot and more in Mass Effect: 2 Maybe she will be even more and tougher like Liara almost in Mass Effect 3. I love Liara and Tali, they are my most beloved favorite than the other characters. I bet in Mass Effect 3 there will be more species to be revealed and characters when it comes around in the future.
I personally and honestly think that the Quarians/Tali would look impressive and great when they are revealed behind their suits. Mass Effect: Accession I read, describe the Quarians very well, not revealing though but I pictured it. They shouldn't have hair which they are an Alien Race. It would make it, like some other games than. Every character and species are different in their own way, they do not need to be the same.
I agree Tali did grew and grown up alot and more in Mass Effect: 2 Maybe she will be even more and tougher like Liara almost in Mass Effect 3. I love Liara and Tali, they are my most beloved favorite than the other characters. I bet in Mass Effect 3 there will be more species to be revealed and characters when it comes around in the future.
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Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 04:06
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If you hadn't noticed, hair is alien in the Mass Effect universe. Humans [and if you really want to be technical, Batarians] are the only ones with them. Short hair curled up is no issue in a suit.SkyeHawk89 wrote...
Okay...this starting to annoy me with every character in Mass Effect that I been seeing around. Why not they have hair, I been seeing it on with Jack, Quarians and the Asari. Those races and characters look very great and well done without hair.
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Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 04:08
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Indeed. Tali has sniped more people with her shotgun from Me1 than Garrus probably has in the last two years.mrsph wrote...
Mozer121 wrote...
To be honest, my Tali probably got more kills than me with her Geth plasma shotgun on my insanity run. She's so good now that there's a shotgun with range.
It was just the murder machine from Mass Effect making her triumphent return
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Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 04:08
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That was my major gripe with Legion and Tali. Outside of the confrontation on the Normandy and one line of dialog on Tuchanka they never acknowledge the other one.
I really hope that Mass Effect 3 has more squad interaction because the Legion/Tali interactions can be incredibly awesome.
I really hope that Mass Effect 3 has more squad interaction because the Legion/Tali interactions can be incredibly awesome.
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Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 04:10
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Speaking of, I haven't had to give her a Widow in my games since getting the geth shotgun. She doesn't need it. She still likes to headshot everything, though. Tali has been taking lessons from the Sniper SquadRunescapeguy9 wrote...
Indeed. Tali has sniped more people with her shotgun from Me1 than Garrus probably has in the last two years.
