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[Golden Owl]

Collider wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

Is anybody else here concerned that romancing Tali could have bad repercussions in ME3, given her immune system? Or think that Shep maybe a real jerk for willingly putting her in that danger? This is coming from someone who's until very recent canon Shep always romanced Tali, now he romances no-one, due to my thoughts on why would he, given the danger.

You don't have to sleep with Tali to do her romance. "Rejecting" her at the romance scene has Shepard say that it's not right to do this before the suicide mission. The romance remains active, when you talk to her after it she gives you regular repeating romance dialog and she is invitable to the cabin.

One of the things important to consider is that unless Tali wants to go without sex (with anyone) her entire life, she is eventually going to have that take risk.

I haven't been game enough to hit that reply...didn't want to reject her when she's being so vulnerable and out there...Thank you for the heads up on what Shep in fact says, I think I will use it.

Very true about the risk, I guess I hadn't actually thought that far ahead with her.

[Golden Owl]

Alienmorph wrote...

And, in fact, staying with someone who's levo-Dna oddly it's safer for her... the best she can take for being with Shepard is an allergic reaction, she can't contract any virus or dangerous bacterias from him. Unless it would happen with a turian or even with another quarian. Also, if the interspecies sex for quarians is enough common to make even a not-porn (?) movie about it, the mortaly rate linked to it must not be so elevated. I guess that Tali seemed so worried because it was her first time and because being humans in the galactic community from a such short time (just a few decades) probably there were not much records about human/quarian mating and so she didn't know how her phisiology would have react.

Very good points Alienmorph...thank you.

[Golden Owl]

wraith_05 wrote...

Before I start, if this question has been answered, please direct me to the thread.

I have both Mass Effect 1 & 2 - I romanced Liara, but fell in love with Tali in Mass Effect 2.

My question is this: When I depart for Ilos in Mass Effect 1, Liara walks into my quarters to intiate the romance scene. If I turn her down, will it still count as romancing her in Mass Effect 2, and further cause issues in Mass Effect 3?

I want to have a perfect save from Mass Effect 1 & 2 with only romancing Tali. If I have to replay the game to acheive this I will as I love Tali!!

-Thanks

I did exactly the same thing...I didn't want to take any chances, so went back and replayed ME1.

[Alienmorph]

I'm probably going to do the same and my making my canon MaleShep pure a Talimancing one, but also I'll meke Liara my canon romance for my future FemShep, considering how much BW seems to be attached to her I'm curious to see how her romance too will continue.

[Goat_Shepard]

MadMapper wrote...
I'm 90% sure it DOES NOT turn it down, because they won't have sex but they ares till "together". 

The only way to be sure is to NEVER talk to Liara, obviously except for the 2-3 times that she does the mental link with Shep.

This is coming from someone who tried not romancing Liara (but still wanted to talk to her) but ended up discovering it in the middle late of ME2 

I'm 100% sure it doesn't end the romance.

See to this guide to avoid the phantom romances. Yes, it was necessary for a guide to be created

[Andaius20]

[Capt_Flashheart]

Golden Owl wrote...
....I guess the point I have been trying to make is...Okay, imagine you really are Shep, not the player knowing his a Mary Sue and knowing that Tali will be fine...but from Sheps point of view himself, through his eyes so to speak, as if you are actually him in that world, in that situation...what would you do with Tali?

I'm not sure what the other Shepards in their hypothetical parallel universes would do, but my actions would probably be no different to my canon Shepards.
Considering how by that point I (Shepard) would have recipricated Tali's attraction...
"I feel the same way about you." 
...and made my feelings clear...
"I don't want anyone else. I want you. And I'll do whatever I have to to make this work."
...twice...
"I don't want to risk your health, but I'm willing to wait"
...my reaction to her coming in saying she's as ready as she'll ever be to share herself with me, could be summed up with four words,
"It's okay. Come here."
*Insert DatQuarianPounce.gif *

Modifié par Capt_Flashheart, 04 mai 2011 - 12:36 .

[Golden Owl]

Capt_Flashheart wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...
....I guess the point I have been trying to make is...Okay, imagine you really are Shep, not the player knowing his a Mary Sue and knowing that Tali will be fine...but from Sheps point of view himself, through his eyes so to speak, as if you are actually him in that world, in that situation...what would you do with Tali?

I'm not sure what the other Shepards in their hypothetical parallel universes would do, but my actions would probably be no different to my canon Shepards.
Considering how by that point I (Shepard) would have recipricated Tali's attraction...
"I feel the same way about you." 
...and made my feelings clear...
"I don't want anyone else. I want you. And I'll do whatever I have to to make this work."
...twice...
"I don't want to risk your health, but I'm willing to wait"
...my reaction to her coming in saying she's as ready as she'll ever be to share herself with me, could be summed up with four words,
"It's okay. Come here."
*Insert DatQuarianPounce.gif *

Damn! I love that pounce......and the look on Sheps face when he takes her mask off...

Had a chat with hubby about my thoughts on Tali romance and Sheps willingness....made a lot of sense, maybe I just needed a close males perspective on the idea....feeling free and easy with Tali......

Modifié par Golden Owl, 04 mai 2011 - 01:23 .

[mikethor007]

Golden Owl wrote...
I'm thinking it's possible Tali will be offered the posting and accept it and using her Admiral status to help Shep rally the Quarians....thats what I have been wondering anyway...If this does happen though, I can't see how she and Shep couldn't still maintain a relationship....I guess its all a matter of waiting to see what BW comes up with.

'Scuse me, but no. I can't accept this possibility. It would totally preclude her being a squadmate.

If such a thing happened, I'd certainly NOT pay the full price for the game. Maybe in a sale or when the price dipped below the $20 mark. And I likely wouldn't buy any sort of DLC.

[mikethor007]

Nashiktal wrote...
In any case Tali could probably learn to be a decent admiral. Better than trying to make her a squad leader.

I don't think a person that can't manage to keep a squad in check can keep a good portion of the Quarian's military in check. She lacked leadership there.

Maybe when she were much older, like 10 or 20 years or so, and with much more experience under her belt I could see it happening, but not right now.

Making her an Admiral now would be much more a political move than a logical choice.

Modifié par mikethor007, 04 mai 2011 - 01:58 .

[jacobOriley]

mikethor007 wrote...
Making her an Admiral now would be much more a political move than a logical choice.

Agreed. It would be a political move I wouldn't like as well. Someone mentioned disbanding the conclave so the admirals can proceed as they choose. It doesn't work like that. The Admiralty board can over rule the conclave once and then they are forced to step down and be replaced.

I'd like to keep her as squadmate, but we'll see....

@Goat_nice pic. You must have quite a collection.

[mikethor007]

jacobOriley wrote...
Agreed. It would be a political move I wouldn't like as well. Someone mentioned disbanding the conclave so the admirals can proceed as they choose. It doesn't work like that. The Admiralty board can over rule the conclave once and then they are forced to step down and be replaced.

I'd like to keep her as squadmate, but we'll see....

@Goat_nice pic. You must have quite a collection.

Not to mention that making her an Admiral would feel like Bioware is pulling something Out of The Blue, or bringing the Writer on Board to make a certain part of the plot fit.

Tali not being a squadmate would certainly go a long way to rob me of the reward of following this saga since ME1. After 5 years, I expect ME3 to be VERY rewarding. And for Tali's romance to conclude in a good note, not with a flimsy bittersweet ending.

If it ended in them being separated at the very end, I'd feel like a fool for waiting that much time for the conclusion of the saga.

[XX55XX]

mikethor007 wrote...

jacobOriley wrote...
Agreed. It would be a political move I wouldn't like as well. Someone mentioned disbanding the conclave so the admirals can proceed as they choose. It doesn't work like that. The Admiralty board can over rule the conclave once and then they are forced to step down and be replaced.

I'd like to keep her as squadmate, but we'll see....

@Goat_nice pic. You must have quite a collection.

Not to mention that making her an Admiral would feel like Bioware is pulling something Out of The Blue, or bringing the Writer on Board to make a certain part of the plot fit.

Tali not being a squadmate would certainly go a long way to rob me of the reward of following this saga since ME1. After 5 years, I expect ME3 to be VERY rewarding. And for Tali's romance to conclude in a good note, not with a flimsy bittersweet ending.

If it ended in them being separated at the very end, I'd feel like a fool for waiting that much time for the conclusion of the saga.

Given that romances aren't the focus of ME, I think we might end up getting a cheesy "sweetheart" sort of ending.

[mikethor007]

XX55XX wrote...
Given that romances aren't the focus of ME, I think we might end up getting a cheesy "sweetheart" sort of ending.

I don't quite get the meaning. What would that sort of ending include?

[Faust1991]

wraith_05 wrote...

Before I start, if this question has been answered, please direct me to the thread.

I have both Mass Effect 1 & 2 - I romanced Liara, but fell in love with Tali in Mass Effect 2.

My question is this: When I depart for Ilos in Mass Effect 1, Liara walks into my quarters to intiate the romance scene. If I turn her down, will it still count as romancing her in Mass Effect 2, and further cause issues in Mass Effect 3?

I want to have a perfect save from Mass Effect 1 & 2 with only romancing Tali. If I have to replay the game to acheive this I will as I love Tali!!

-Thanks

Lol i unintentionally romanced ashley, i just started my new playthrough for ME1 (using my first game custom shephard because he looks EXACTLY like me) needless to say? Ash cant touch this .  Oh and I'm finding a crap load of more things i missed out on before, plus starting off at level 44 with high level gear on hardcore is win. Ill be saving Alenko, gotta stay faithful Tali  for ME3.

Modifié par Faust1991, 04 mai 2011 - 04:16 .

[Collider]

I think becoming an admiral during ME3 would be something more for direction, than command. The point being that Tali unlike the other admirals is the only one with proper perspective on the geth/quarian conflict and the threat the reapers pose. There's also the matter of being able to override the conclave.

I do feel like becoming an admiral is foreshadowed for Tali. Otherwise there seems to be very little point for them to have her mention that people are considering her as a future admiral. So far as her own opinion on the matter, I think she would take the responsibility if it was important for the safety and security of the quarians. More realistically, becoming an admiral would be something in one/all of her epilogues, but given Liara's ascension from ME1 from loner to information broker in ME2, I wouldn't be surprised if Tali became one during the course of ME3.

[mikethor007]

Collider wrote...

I think becoming an admiral during ME3 would be something more for direction, than command. The point being that Tali unlike the other admirals is the only one with proper perspective on the geth/quarian conflict and the threat the reapers pose. There's also the matter of being able to override the conclave.

I do feel like becoming an admiral is foreshadowed for Tali. Otherwise there seems to be very little point for them to have her mention that people are considering her as a future admiral. So far as her own opinion on the matter, I think she would take the responsibility if it was important for the safety and security of the quarians. More realistically, becoming an admiral would be something in one/all of her epilogues, but given Liara's ascension from ME1 from loner to information broker in ME2, I wouldn't be surprised if Tali became one during the course of ME3.

I'll just drop this topic and agree to disagree here.

That is not an outcome I want at all after 5 years of waiting. I'm expecting her as a squadmate in ME3, and I'm expecting Tali and Shepard to end toghether after the game, not separated due to their respective duties. Otherwise, romancing her would be pointless as that sort of ending would be totally unrewarding in my concept.

[Alienmorph]

We'll see. I think that her rise as admiral will be one of her endings, but not her starting position in ME3, simply because it's too bounded to a very specific outcome of her trial. What should happen to her if she's exiled? Or if you unveiled the proofs against his father? It's not a one way outcome like the Liara's rise as the ShadowBroker, so it can't be her starting position in ME3, and probably neither a situation going to happen in a key moment of the story. Unless retaking Rannoch will means redeem her whathever happened before, in that case she may join the Admiralty Board in time for the final battle, I suppose.

[Faust1991]

Alienmorph wrote...

We'll see. I think that her rise as admiral will be one of her endings, but not her starting position in ME3, simply because it's too bounded to a very specific outcome of her trial. What should happen to her if she's exiled? Or if you unveiled the proofs against his father? It's not a one way outcome like the Liara's rise as the ShadowBroker, so it can't be her starting position in ME3, and probably neither a situation going to happen in a key moment of the story. Unless retaking Rannoch will means redeem her whathever happened before, in that case she may join the Admiralty Board in time for the final battle, I suppose.

Guess we'll have to beat the game as we see it..then watch youtube for the other possibilities haaha.

[ridicimousman]

Just got done playing this game through for the 3rd time. What sucks is that this game is detailed enough to get sucked into, much like a really good novel. I played for so long that I needed to get other things done that I neglected so I turned off the xbox..realized Tali doesn't exist in real life...got kinda depressed...and promptly turned the game back on. lawlz.

[Faust1991]

ridicimousman wrote...

Just got done playing this game through for the 3rd time. What sucks is that this game is detailed enough to get sucked into, much like a really good novel. I played for so long that I needed to get other things done that I neglected so I turned off the xbox..realized Tali doesn't exist in real life...got kinda depressed...and promptly turned the game back on. lawlz.

Wow your the first person who I've seen said that. I mean we ALL know she doesn't, but sometimes i wonder if other people do lol.

[Alienmorph]

What's the point of discussing about a fictional character if we need to remember every 5 minutes that's fictional? Two words: disbelief's suspenction.

[ridicimousman]

Fortunately it was a joke. Giving props to one of the most well done plots for a game I've played in a long time.