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[Kikaimegami]

This one isn't as good as the others, but I like it.

[t3HPrO]

Runescapeguy9 wrote...

t3HPrO wrote...
Also, she dies ridiculously easy. On her loyalty mission (hardened playthrough), I threw her in a CORNER, behind the BEST cover available, and she STILL dies. However, me and Garrus, who were in not so solid cover, stayed alive and wiped out the geth. What the...

Then with no disrespect meant, you are doing something wrong. In my playthroughs she dies less than I do. The enemies never make it close enough to do any real damage if behind appropriate cover. Her drone also stalls them enough to line up very clear shots.

I dunno about you, but for me, Tali, Garrus and Zaeed run headlong into crossfires thinking that they're friggin' Rambo(but they epic fail, obviously) and end up with more bullet holes and rockets to the face than you can count. Grunt usually tries sniping, but FOR SOME DAMN REASON HE CHARGES SCIONS ALL THE TIME. What the hell. Fortunately, Kasumi, Miranda and Legion know when to stay back and when to charge, and I don't need to spend any medigel on them, whereas I need to pump Tali full of medigel and wrap her in cotton wool before I let her off the ship. Same goes for Garrus, although he survives easier due to higher health than Tali.

[Kikaimegami]

Yeeeeeeah :pats herself on the back for a job well done:

[Orange Face_]

No worries Runescape I'm not hear to disrespect, just to offer my simple opinion, that's the cool thing and the bummer about any form of art, writing, singing, video games, etc. The beholder is always gonna see what they bring with them as well as the art, even Moby Dick was hated in its time. But I really dig the new Tali forum. Like I said Tali can go a bunch of different ways in 3 and I think that's super cool and am excited to see what the BW guys come up with...Peace

[uhdnrt]

It largely depends on the player. As a primarily Sentinel player, I find myself rushing ahead and jumping between cover to act as bait as I have the best armor For true 'tank' status, couple Sentinel with Barrier or Fortification + Tali's drone. You and the drone absorb the damage, the party dishes out the pain. Useful stuff.

[Kikaimegami]

The best kind of squad is playing as EngineerShep with Tali and Legion and you all have maxed out combat drone for Attack Drone.



HELL. YES.

[Someone With Mass]

I think I've read on wiki that the Phalanx pistol can do more damage than the Widow if upgraded properly and if the right ammo power is activated. I'm usually letting Tali stay in the back with the Phalanx (and she can still steal my kills, lol) while I try to flank the enemy. Also GPS+ Squad Disruptor Ammo = shield overkill.

Cryo Ammo is also one of my new favorite ammo powers, and I've let Tali freeze dozens of enemies, while Chik tears them apart. A lot.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 16 septembre 2010 - 07:22 .

[Adhin]

I'm not sure about that, the Phalanx is a DAMN nice pistol but it definitely doesn't beat out the Widow in damage. Widows 368.3 every 2 seconds, Phalanx is 109.8 base every .75. Reloads shy 1.5 on it, 3.75 seconds to empty all 6 rounds, 5.25 after reload. That's enough time to get in 3 full Widow Rounds. 658.8 (Phalanx) vs 1104.9 its a huge difference. Problem with the wiki is they constantly do non-equal comparisons. Like Weapon A with full upgrades does slightly more or same as weapon B, of a completely different catagories (usually sniper rifles) with no ugprade's. Or completely different ammo types. It's a bit silly.

that said Phalanx is pretty amazing pistol overall and Tali can definitely do some solid work with the thing. More so then the other pistols considering when she uses cover she tends to do pop shots instead of continual fire. In that field, compared to other pistols Phalanx wins out hands down, it just packs a bigger punch. So yeah, definitely an awesome choice for my favorite lady in ME

[Kikaimegami]

Tali is all "not sure if want" and Daro'Xen is intrigued.



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[LordPennlocke]

Kikaimegami wrote...

The best kind of squad is playing as EngineerShep with Tali and Legion and you all have maxed out combat drone for Attack Drone.

HELL. YES.

Or when Shep is a Soldier with Tali and Legion spamming their drones while enemies fall in a glorious firestorm of Inferno from the Revenant. Tali sometimes steals from my glorious moments with her Geth Shotgun though, along with the occasional headshot from Legion.

[Kikaimegami]

LordPennlocke wrote...

Or when Shep is a Soldier with Tali and Legion spamming their drones while enemies fall in a glorious firestorm of Inferno from the Revenant. Tali sometimes steals from my glorious moments with her Geth Shotgun though, along with the occasional headshot from Legion.

I swear, with Tali and that geth shotgun and Legion with the Widow, my own squad is always stealing my kills!

[LordPennlocke]

Kikaimegami wrote...

LordPennlocke wrote...

Or when Shep is a Soldier with Tali and Legion spamming their drones while enemies fall in a glorious firestorm of Inferno from the Revenant. Tali sometimes steals from my glorious moments with her Geth Shotgun though, along with the occasional headshot from Legion.

I swear, with Tali and that geth shotgun and Legion with the Widow, my own squad is always stealing my kills!

For every kill she steals, Tali has to spend an hour in Shep's cabin getting 'reprimanded' for her inexcusable actions (she's always there once her daily work with the core is done, but that's aside the point). Legion and Shep have a bro-code, headshots can be glorious.

[t3HPrO]

Runescapeguy9 wrote...

t3HPrO wrote...
I dunno about you, but for me, Tali, Garrus and Zaeed run headlong into crossfires thinking that they're friggin' Rambo(but they epic fail, obviously) and end up with more bullet holes and rockets to the face than you can count. Grunt usually tries sniping, but FOR SOME DAMN REASON HE CHARGES SCIONS ALL THE TIME. What the hell. Fortunately, Kasumi, Miranda and Legion know when to stay back and when to charge, and I don't need to spend any medigel on them, whereas I need to pump Tali full of medigel and wrap her in cotton wool before I let her off the ship. Same goes for Garrus, although he survives easier due to higher health than Tali.

We apparently have very different styles of playing then. Miranda has been the worst AI for me. She always gets up on tops of crates and acts like a meatshield. Tali and Legion generally have the best for me. She dies less than I do even on insanity runs.

Wow. Your AI sounds f*cked up, given that everybody else has been saying how Miranda's saved their a*ses with her powers.

[uhdnrt]

Kikaimegami wrote...

The best kind of squad is playing as EngineerShep with Tali and Legion and you all have maxed out combat drone for Attack Drone.

HELL. YES.

I am not going to Lie - I hate legion's skill set.  A geth Infiltrator without any infiltration abilities other than a sniper rifle?  Fail.  EPIC fail.  then again, there is such a weird breakdown of the classes it isn't funny.  You've got 1 sentinel (Miranda), 3 engineers (Tali, Legion, Mordin), 1 soldier (Grunt), 2 adepts (Thane, Samara), 2 vanguards (Jack, Jacob), and 1 unidentified (Garrus), 0 infiltrators.  Would it have been so hard to even out the classes a little bit?  I felt it should have been:

Adept
Samara (Shockwave, Warp, Reave)
Thane (Throw, Warp, Shredder Ammo)
Engineer
Mordin (Incinerate, Cryo Blast, Neural Shock)
Tali (Cryo Blast, Combat Drone, Energy Drain)
Infiltrator
Garrus (Overload, Incinerate, AP Ammo)
Legion (Disruptor Ammo, AI Hacking, Geth Shield Boost)
Sentinel
Miranda (Overload, Warp, Biotic Slam)
Soldier
Grunt (Concussive Shot, Cryo Rounds, Fortification)
Vanguard
Jack (Pull, Shockwave, Warp Ammo)
Jacob (Incendiary Ammo, Pull, Barrier)

It would have rounded out the roser much better this way, anyway.  And with less tripling up on abilities.  I didn't list the DLC characters, but Zaeed is a Soldier, clearly.  And while Kasumi is an Infiltrator, she is badly designed.  She gets 2 loyalty style attacks (And Shadow Strike is arguably the most powerful single target spike damage in the game).  She needs a redesign fiercely; I personally vote Overload, AI hacking, Flashbang, but that's just me)

Modifié par uhdnrt, 16 septembre 2010 - 08:12 .

[uhdnrt]

Someone With Mass wrote...

I think I've read on wiki that the Phalanx pistol can do more damage than the Widow if upgraded properly and if the right ammo power is activated. I'm usually letting Tali stay in the back with the Phalanx (and she can still steal my kills, lol) while I try to flank the enemy. Also GPS+ Squad Disruptor Ammo = shield overkill.

Cryo Ammo is also one of my new favorite ammo powers, and I've let Tali freeze dozens of enemies, while Chik tears them apart. A lot.

If you want to disgust yourself, try taking Tali and Jack with the new shotguns and handguns (fully upgraded), Area Energy Drain, and Squad Warp Ammo.  You can get through Legion's entire loyalty quest without firing a shot, powers only (except soldiers, of course).

SWA and AED allow you to pop any and all defenses stupidly quick.  Doubly so if you are a Sentinel with maxed Overload and Reave (Warp, if you want a different squad attack); You will alternate Overload and Reave/Warp, and nothing else/

[Kikaimegami]

uhdnrt wrote...

I am not going to Lie - I hate legion's skill set.  A geth Infiltrator without any infiltration abilities other than a sniper rifle?  Fail.  EPIC fail.

Oh I agree with you. I really think Legion should have had Tactical Cloak and AI Hacking, while Tali should have had Overload and Combat Drone. For the love of god one of them needs Overload badly, because I really would like to have it when I have them both in my squad on my Infiltrator characters.

[Kikaimegami]

Runescapeguy9 wrote...

t3HPrO wrote...
Wow. Your AI sounds f*cked up, given that everybody else has been saying how Miranda's saved their a*ses with her powers.

The same game. Different player. Tali's drone and energy drain have saved my life more times than I care to count for.

Seriously, Tali and Legion's drones save my ass so much.

[Someone With Mass]

Kasumi is better than Miranda, IMO.



Just her Shadow Strike is better than any of Miranda's powers.



Oh, and I really like that LotSB allows squad advanced training. Then I can redo some of my f**k ups.



Like investing in Tali's AI Hacking. Or any AI Hacking for that matter.

[Someone With Mass]

When it comes to Husks, I just use Incinerate. Kills them with one shot.

[uhdnrt]

Kikaimegami wrote...

uhdnrt wrote...

I am not going to Lie - I hate legion's skill set.  A geth Infiltrator without any infiltration abilities other than a sniper rifle?  Fail.  EPIC fail.

Oh I agree with you. I really think Legion should have had Tactical Cloak and AI Hacking, while Tali should have had Overload and Combat Drone. For the love of god one of them needs Overload badly, because I really would like to have it when I have them both in my squad on my Infiltrator characters.

Yes and no.  While I do so love Tali, she honestly should not have Combat Drone.  No squaddie other than Shepard should.  It is the only 'unique' power that Engineers have.  Same with Adrenaline Rush, Singularity, Tactical Cloak, Tech Armor, and Charge.  That, or engineers should have gotten a different unique ability.