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Evil_Sarevok

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I think any true RPG player's main pull is to learn more about the world, and your companions that you are with, more so if you like their character design, background, whatever. A prime example of this for me was always Keldorn, I really enjoyed his storyline, and always respected him as a character (which is rare for me to actually like a paladin), the problem was, if you treat him with enough respect you loose him as a character due to him commiting himself to his family, which in my oppinion looses the one of, if not the best good character in Baldurs Gate 2.

The same goes for Tali and her general people, you gain somewhat of a respect for them being essentially nowhere, and having to make do, and you generally want to help them out, but then get a choice to essentially see what they want to do about the Geth, as well as getting interested in Tali herself being nieve initially but clearly learning from what is put in front of her, her love for your Shepard is very "cute" (ugh I feel dirty for using such a word), due to how shy she is and it is interesting how you can persue her affection, choosing to, or not to have her take her mask off to you which is in no means a small thing, no matter how screened the Normandy is, it is not designed for her race.

The same goes for Garrus, who can easily be lead down multiple paths, of good and somewhat amiss, making him think more about his situation, or turning him into Space Batman with his revenge killing.

I do find it slightly dissapointing that there are no 'evil' characters in the entire series that you can team up with, perhaps for better use of Renegade options, or have them carry out said options for you as a natural player characteristics (similar to Wrex shooting Fist whether you like it or not). Mind you... Evil seems to be a bit watered down in character design these days, always seems to be hell bent on destruction and not manipulation and trickery, afterall, sometimes the easiest way to be evil, is to have people pereive you as good, only to use them for your own gains, which ironically is the easiest route to power generally these days, even in good/evil choice games.

Still, I wont look too far into good/evil, just the fact that character development is generally more interesting than the games official plotline, especially if you like your characters, you want to help them, not be forced to help them (like in ME2 for loyalty which is 'required').

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#13477
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That "Fanboy's Everywhere" pic could have so many variations (replacing Merrill with Casey Hudson would be hilarious).
The way that art imagines how characters would react to their fan bases reminds me of this:
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I think there's a sketch somewhere of Tali looking at her old 10000 page thread, but I couldn't find it.

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Capt_Flashheart wrote...
I think there's a sketch somewhere of Tali looking at her old 10000 page thread, but I couldn't find it.

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Evil_Sarevok wrote...
I think any true RPG player's main pull is to learn more about the world, and your companions that you are with, more so if you like their character design, background, whatever.

That's what I'm trying to say, whether or not that defines a true RPG player or not, that's what I'm looking for in a game. That's also what drew me to Tali,Garrus,Wrex and Jack. If it doesn't appeal to other's or they're looking for something different, that's as it should be as well. I'll never understand the character hater's, no matter who the character is.


Evil_Sarevok wrote...
I do find it slightly dissapointing that there are no 'evil' characters in the entire series that you can team up with, perhaps for better use of Renegade options, or have them carry out said options for you as a natural player characteristics (similar to Wrex shooting Fist whether you like it or not). Mind you... Evil seems to be a bit watered down in character design these days, always seems to be hell bent on destruction and not manipulation and trickery, afterall, sometimes the easiest way to be evil, is to have people pereive you as good, only to use them for your own gains, which ironically is the easiest route to power generally these days, even in good/evil choice games.

It would be great to team up with an evil player for ****s and giggles and give those who like to play that way more satisfaction.

Evil_Sarevok wrote...
Still, I wont look too far into good/evil, just the fact that character development is generally more interesting than the games official plotline, especially if you like your characters, you want to help them, not be forced to help them (like in ME2 for loyalty which is 'required').

I never felt like I was forced to help anyone. I understood the consequences for not gaining loyalty and I had a Shep who played it that way. It wasn't my favorite play through, but the choice was mine. I never did let Tali die, I like having her around....you know, sweet kid that she is....and the view with her out front. :innocent:

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Faust1991 wrote...

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That extra health is just the herbal supplements kicking in. Tali just wanted to make sure that she was ready for anything when Shepard called.


Just so long as she doesn't relapse into one of her moods, and you know exactly what im talking about. That was a strange chapter lol, but pretty damn interesting.

I honestly have no idea what you're refering to.  :P

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Tali is back and her story arc will continue

Casey Hudson is the man.
Yes I knew but this is confirmation enough for me :wizard:

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 11 mai 2011 - 01:33 .


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Calinstel wrote...
I honestly have no idea what you're refering to.  :P

Hmm...selective memory works.....

Vertigo_1 wrote....
Tali is back and her story arc will continue

Casey Hudson is the man.
Yes I knew but this is confirmation enough for me

Thanks. Boy, Casey is making some fans happy with his new twitter acct. Helmet toggles, Confirm Tali.....makes you wonder what bomb he's going to drop.

Modifié par jacobOriley, 11 mai 2011 - 01:37 .


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jacobOriley wrote...

Calinstel wrote...
I honestly have no idea what you're refering to.  :P

Hmm...selective memory works.....

Vertigo_1 wrote....
Tali is back and her story arc will continue

Casey Hudson is the man.
Yes I knew but this is confirmation enough for me

Thanks. Boy, Casey is making some fans happy with his new twitter acct. Helmet toggles, Confirm Tali.....makes you wonder what bomb he's going to drop.


He seems to post nightly so... *adds his twitter account to bookmarks* :D

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jacobOriley wrote...

Calinstel wrote...
I honestly have no idea what you're refering to.  :P

Hmm...selective memory works.....

Vertigo_1 wrote....
Tali is back and her story arc will continue

Casey Hudson is the man.
Yes I knew but this is confirmation enough for me

Thanks. Boy, Casey is making some fans happy with his new twitter acct. Helmet toggles, Confirm Tali.....makes you wonder what bomb he's going to drop.


Some Deadspace armor would be cool (they did it for DA).

I know what i read o.O am i going crazy?

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Vertigo_1 wrote...

Tali is back and her story arc will continue

Casey Hudson is the man.
Yes I knew but this is confirmation enough for me :wizard:

Yeeeeeessssssss

Thx for the info.

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I'll just quick drop these spoilers here before nighty night time

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Goat_Shepard wrote...

MadMapper wrote...
Also, totally agreeing with Goat Shepard's talking about Ash and Kaidan :P

Indeed

Calinstel wrote...

In the game, All characters run at the same speed. The only reason Shepard is behind Tali is well...
Er, um... To protect her, yeah. View's got nothing to do with it. :)

There are both mental and physical factors that determine how slow or fast a person will run. Just a few are survival instinct, duty, and an insatiable desire to stare at someone's behind.

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As you can see, Jack is a victim of survival instinct and Shepard's a victim of everything except that :P

Capt_Flashheart wrote...
It would add a new tactical layer to the game if certain team members could move faster than others. For example, Tali would have less health than a big guy like Grunt, but she could also get into cover faster than him and relocate quicker.

Oh hell yes. Now I'll play ME2 being very aware of Grunt's unnatural speed. Thanks :lol:

Speaking of Tali's health, I recently noticed she has 10 extra health points compared to other team mates. Tough Tali...

Really? Wow. What about her barrier? In ME1 she has the exact same hp as Garrus :innocent:


Don't make the mistake of thinking Big Guy = Slow Guy.

I took martial arts for 10 years.  One of the fastest guys I ever seen was 6 ft 3 inches and about 30 lbs overweight.  Strong as all hell and so quick he could almost circle around you and punch you in the back of the head before you even so much as moved.

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Faust1991 wrote...


Some Deadspace armor would be cool (they did it for DA).

I know what i read o.O am i going crazy?

What I want is a nanosuit from Crysis 2. I think I've seen a Tali nanosuit photoshop around here.

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YungD815 wrote...

Faust1991 wrote...


Some Deadspace armor would be cool (they did it for DA).

I know what i read o.O am i going crazy?

What I want is a nanosuit from Crysis 2. I think I've seen a Tali nanosuit photoshop around here.


Talisis 3

#13490
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Vertigo_1 wrote...

Tali is back and her story arc will continue

Casey Hudson is the man.


Priestly said "Don't consider anything confirmed unless it is said by me or Casey." Fine. Done. :wizard:

Modifié par Alienmorph, 11 mai 2011 - 11:51 .


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Alienmorph wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Tali is back and her story arc will continue

Casey Hudson is the man.


Priestly said "Don't consider anything confirmed unless it is said by me or Casey." Fine. Done. :wizard:

Now the only thing left is for said story arc to allow for Shepard to stay in her life.:wizard:

Modifié par mikethor007, 11 mai 2011 - 01:30 .


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mikethor007 wrote...

Alienmorph wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Tali is back and her story arc will continue

Casey Hudson is the man.


Priestly said "Don't consider anything confirmed unless it is said by me or Casey." Fine. Done. :wizard:

Now the only thing left is for said story arc to allow for Shepard to stay in her life.:wizard:

And build her a home!

#13493
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eh just finished the second reading of all three books
I noticed the romace between Kahle and Anderson sees quite equal to the Tali/Shep romance
Just my opinion

Modifié par awddc, 11 mai 2011 - 03:47 .


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awddc wrote...
I noticed the romace between Kahle and Anderson sees quite equal to the Tali/Shep romance

You're... gonna have to explain that one, I think.

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I want to touch upon something: While Tali is "shy" in her romance, she is not "shy" in general.

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She is not confident in situations she is not used to and becomes quite modest. Thus, the "I am being stupid and selfish" part. She is definitely confident in battle though.

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Collider wrote...

I want to touch upon something: While Tali is "shy" in her romance, she is not "shy" in general.

True; and after the Suicide Mission she doesn't sound shy.

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I think it's just because it was her first time and all that.

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

awddc wrote...
I noticed the romace between Kahle and Anderson sees quite equal to the Tali/Shep romance

You're... gonna have to explain that one, I think.


don´t know if it´s equal to the english books but in the german you see that Anderson is care about Kahle but Kahle don´t know if she can trust him (first book)

in the second is nothing over there "romance"

in the third you see at the end that they trust each other like when Kahle had broke all here fingeres and Anderson help her with her terapie (they got very close together) or in the epilog where Anderson kiss here and she said if Nick get that Anderson do this he will throw him at every wall in the akadamie.

Don´t no if you can follow but i don´t want to spolier the best is if you read it yourself and I mean not directly equal to tali/shep but when I read this tali and shep popped in my mind

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No, I just wish more people would stick a Deathmask on there.

Done. ^_^

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