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Volrath937

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Collider wrote...
1. Responding to Tali's statement about trust with "I feel the same way" "It's too dangerous" or "I don't feel the same way"
2. Talking to Mordin about the relationship with Tali
3. Talking to Liara about the relationship with Tali

It's about the same amount that it's in the files for F/F Jack and F/F Miranda.

Hm, sounds like you're pretty spot on with the script thing then. 2 and 3 would've probably just been part of recording the dialogue for Mordin and Liara. And since it sounds like the meat of the romance voice work is missing, 1 was probably the point where they had Hale stop recording it. 

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Volrath937 wrote...

Collider wrote...
1. Responding to Tali's statement about trust with "I feel the same way" "It's too dangerous" or "I don't feel the same way"
2. Talking to Mordin about the relationship with Tali
3. Talking to Liara about the relationship with Tali

It's about the same amount that it's in the files for F/F Jack and F/F Miranda.

Hm, sounds like you're pretty spot on with the script thing then. 2 and 3 would've probably just been part of recording the dialogue for Mordin and Liara. And since it sounds like the meat of the romance voice work is missing, 1 was probably the point where they had Hale stop recording it. 

Actually they have Meer and Hale record EVERY line shepard could say and then cut stuff based on time and what makes it into teh final game and what goes unused. So there's some TalixFemshep stuff int here with Hale.Posted Image

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ADLegend21 wrote...

Volrath937 wrote...

Collider wrote...
1. Responding to Tali's statement about trust with "I feel the same way" "It's too dangerous" or "I don't feel the same way"
2. Talking to Mordin about the relationship with Tali
3. Talking to Liara about the relationship with Tali

It's about the same amount that it's in the files for F/F Jack and F/F Miranda.

Hm, sounds like you're pretty spot on with the script thing then. 2 and 3 would've probably just been part of recording the dialogue for Mordin and Liara. And since it sounds like the meat of the romance voice work is missing, 1 was probably the point where they had Hale stop recording it. 

Actually they have Meer and Hale record EVERY line shepard could say and then cut stuff based on time and what makes it into teh final game and what goes unused. So there's some TalixFemshep stuff int here with Hale.Posted Image


^^^ Yep. :)
I love Hale.

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If BioWare made her straight in ME2, then they should keep her that way in ME3.

I know the homosexual/bisexual gamers lobby is quite strong here, and they too want their options, but I don't a character's sexuality to be retconned. If Tali was bisexual to begin with, then that is a different story altogether.

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XX55XX wrote...

If BioWare made her straight in ME2, then they should keep her that way in ME3.

I know the homosexual/bisexual gamers lobby is quite strong here, and they too want their options, but I don't a character's sexuality to be retconned. If Tali was bisexual to begin with, then that is a different story altogether.

by that logic this can be said:
"Bioware didn't have Garrus and Tali as romanceable in ME1 so they should keep them that way in ME2"

the Tali and Garrus for romance lobby was strong and it wanted it options and the characters were retconned to be attracted to Shepard. Why can't another lobby get what it asks from a developer that obviously listens to it's fans request?Posted ImagePosted Image

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XX55XX wrote...

If BioWare made her straight in ME2, then they should keep her that way in ME3.

I know the homosexual/bisexual gamers lobby is quite strong here, and they too want their options, but I don't a character's sexuality to be retconned. If Tali was bisexual to begin with, then that is a different story altogether.


Nothing indicates she's straight in ME2.
None of the crew members come out and directly state "I'm straight", except for Jack if you read between the lines.
BioWare just took the relationship further for males, but in no where does it constitute for her being "straight" as there's no sexual preferences evident even if you make out with her. She could always potentially be bisexual, we don't know.
I highly suspect she will be in ME3, but who cares if you're already playing a male Shep, it WON'T affect you.

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ADLegend21 wrote...

XX55XX wrote...

If BioWare made her straight in ME2, then they should keep her that way in ME3.

I know the homosexual/bisexual gamers lobby is quite strong here, and they too want their options, but I don't a character's sexuality to be retconned. If Tali was bisexual to begin with, then that is a different story altogether.

by that logic this can be said:
"Bioware didn't have Garrus and Tali as romanceable in ME1 so they should keep them that way in ME2"

the Tali and Garrus for romance lobby was strong and it wanted it options and the characters were retconned to be attracted to Shepard. Why can't another lobby get what it asks from a developer that obviously listens to it's fans request?Posted ImagePosted Image

Not to be rude, but there is already a thread for this kind of discussion.

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Met Tricia Helfer today at a Convention. Just thought I'd share.

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uhdnrt wrote...

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Met Tricia Helfer today at a Convention. Just thought I'd share.


Nice, lucky! :D

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uhdnrt wrote...

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Met Tricia Helfer today at a Convention. Just thought I'd share.

You lucky SOB! 

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I have a large jealous face on.

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jacobOriley wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

XX55XX wrote...

If BioWare made her straight in ME2, then they should keep her that way in ME3.

I know the homosexual/bisexual gamers lobby is quite strong here, and they too want their options, but I don't a character's sexuality to be retconned. If Tali was bisexual to begin with, then that is a different story altogether.

by that logic this can be said:
"Bioware didn't have Garrus and Tali as romanceable in ME1 so they should keep them that way in ME2"

the Tali and Garrus for romance lobby was strong and it wanted it options and the characters were retconned to be attracted to Shepard. Why can't another lobby get what it asks from a developer that obviously listens to it's fans request?Posted ImagePosted Image

Not to be rude, but there is already a thread for this kind of discussion.

Not to be rude, but since I'm talking about Tali I can say that in this thread since it applies to her.Posted Image

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FsDxRAGE wrote...

Or she could just be holding it in. we will just have to see for ourselves.

That's the only explanation that would make sense. Stuff like that happens to me almost everyday.

Yeah, I wring my hands when I'm nervous too.

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ADLegend21 wrote...
Not to be rude, but since I'm talking about Tali I can say that in this thread since it applies to her.Posted Image

You're actually talking about what the "Fight for the Love" thread is all about and you know it very well. Just throwing Tali's name at the end of it doesn't change that.

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Really, it would be for the best if this is taken back to the Fight for the Love thread, or to PMs. Because this is a very hot, and controversial, topic that derails threads.

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jacobOriley wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...
Not to be rude, but since I'm talking about Tali I can say that in this thread since it applies to her.Posted Image

You're actually talking about what the "Fight for the Love" thread is all about and you know it very well. Just throwing Tali's name at the end of it doesn't change that.

alright *cracks knuckles*

Tali showed no interest in aShepard of eiher Gender in Mass Effect, no matter how much oyu talked to her. Though, after Shepard has been dead for 2 years then is revived, she suddenly develops a MASSIVE (pun inteded) crush on the commander and all he stands for and does, despite how she was treated in the first game (has done PT's where i treated her like garbage in ME1 then romance her in ME2) but now it's unreasonable to ahve her do the same thing for a female shepard which is what the majority of psoters are saying here?that's wrong, but ME2's romance isn't?

is that better since it's only about Tali?Posted Image (I'm being dead serious btw)

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In my fanfic, Tali&Shepard use an anti-septic mist to avoid unpleasing consequences. How plausible does this sound?

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XX55XX wrote...

If BioWare made her straight in ME2, then they should keep her that way in ME3.

I know the homosexual/bisexual gamers lobby is quite strong here, and they too want their options, but I don't a character's sexuality to be retconned. If Tali was bisexual to begin with, then that is a different story altogether.


This. Keep past LIs as they are (interested only in their opposite sex sheps) and make brand new 3 LI's like Vegas for bi or go gay I don't really care.

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ADLegend21 wrote...
alright *cracks knuckles*

snp
is that better since it's only about Tali?Posted Image (I'm being dead serious btw)

Maybe Tali doesn't like girls? Maybe she's holding back her sexual desires for femShep until ME3? Maybe the homosexual fans and the heterosexual fans are NEVER going to back down from each other until we wait and see what actually happens in the game? 

Maybe we should all take the advice from this good person:

mrsph wrote...
Really, it would be for the best if this is taken back to the Fight for the Love thread, or to PMs. Because this is a very hot, and controversial, topic that derails threads.

Good on ya, mate!

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In my fanfic, Tali&Shepard use an anti-septic mist to avoid unpleasing consequences. How plausible does this sound?

Never heard of that, but anything's plausible in FF :P depends on how much research you put in and how well you present it. Send me a link or something.

Bed time for me

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Before I go

uhdnrt wrote...
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Met Tricia Helfer today at a Convention. Just thought I'd share.


Nnnooooo!!

Was she tall and beautiful? You don't have to answer, I already know :D

Hugz

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Goat_Shepard wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...
alright *cracks knuckles*

snp
is that better since it's only about Tali?Posted Image (I'm being dead serious btw)

Maybe Tali doesn't like girls? Maybe she's holding back her sexual desires for femShep until ME3? Maybe the homosexual fans and the heterosexual fans are NEVER going to back down from each other until we wait and see what actually happens in the game? 

Tali's LoTSB dossier proves other wise since she still dowloads the mating habits of humans on femshep as she does with male. I think it would be a big step for her character if she was to express feelings to female Shepard. I also do not buy that Hetero vs ****** fans, becaus eI'm heterosexual and I want S/S romances in ME3. That and Tali to admit that the Quarians were wrong in the mourning war, but I'll take it wone step at a time.Posted Image

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@ ADLegend21
You seem to be ignoring what actually happened in ME2. The fact is that male Shepards can pursue a romance with Tali and FemSheps couldn't. Tali is a romanceable option for male Shepards only. There is no "if" or "but" about this. Tali is assumed to be straight, otherwise she would be romanceable by FemShep.
A character switching their sexuality off screen, changing from straight to bi between games, seems unsatisfactory, cheap and leaves fans who thought they knew their fav charactor feeling a little dejected. 
I have no problems with new bi characters, but changing previously gender specific romances to be bi?
That, I have a problem with.

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Never heard of that, but anything's plausible in FF :P depends on how much research you put in and how well you present it. Send me a link or something.

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http://www.fanfictio...fect_Resolution

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@ ADLegend21
You seem to be ignoring what actually happened in ME2. The fact is that male Shepards can pursue a romance with Tali and FemSheps couldn't. Tali is a romanceable option for male Shepards only. There is no "if" or "but" about this. Tali is assumed to be straight, otherwise she would be romanceable by FemShep.
A character switching their sexuality off screen, changing from straight to bi between games, seems unsatisfactory, cheap and leaves fans who thought they knew their fav charactor feeling a little dejected. 
I have no problems with new bi characters, but changing previously gender specific romances to be bi?
That, I have a problem with.

Well Capt, you seem to be ignoring what happened in ME1. The fact being that Tali was a waking Quarian codex entry and did nothing to spark even a  friendship with Shepard of either gender, just talk about how evil teh geth were and how right her people were in attacking them, then getting driven off their homeworld by the very slaves they created. What you should see as cheap and leave fans feeling dejected is that she was turned into a damsel in distress, even after becoming an adult in the flotilla's eyes after 2 years and still needing someone to save her at every turn. Yet I see no outrage over the fact of her constant need of being saved by Commander Shepard, much less than her hero worship and school GIRL behavior despite being a gorwn woman. I hope that the devs will have her become an independent Character, someone who doesn't need saving like Miranda or Ashley who definitly won't be begging to be saved since they can handle themselves. what say you to all of this my Capt.?Posted Image

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I recall saving Ashley three times.