Tali'Zorah Thread *Spoiler warning!*
#1376
Guest_Raga_*
Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 11:26
Guest_Raga_*
#1377
Guest_Runescapeguy9_*
Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 11:28
Guest_Runescapeguy9_*
This is absolutely dead compared to how it used to be. Oh well. Gives me more time to sketch Tali.TheodoricFriede wrote...
(Adendum: I sware this thread can be completely silent for a half an hour then as soon as I try to post something 3 or 4 people beat me too it. Strange cycles in the Tali thread.)
Edit: If you didn't like that flower one there is no way you would like mine.
Modifié par Runescapeguy9, 16 septembre 2010 - 11:30 .
#1378
Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 11:31
Glad to see the thread's still alive. Sadly, I have nothing tali-like to post. D:
#1379
Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 11:32
Its probably for the best, the more noticeable your thread is the more likely its going to be attacked.
#1380
Guest_Runescapeguy9_*
Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 11:32
Guest_Runescapeguy9_*
While the support is appreciated, we really need to keep the off topicness down. If you want to contribute sometime, take a picture from here and pop one in every once in a while.Alexine wrote...
I never come and post in the Tali thread (I like lurking, my bad)
Glad to see the thread's still alive. Sadly, I have nothing tali-like to post. D:
#1381
Guest_Raga_*
Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 11:38
Guest_Raga_*
And to keep this OT, I will address something else that was talked about earlier. I don't think Tali would make a good Admiral. She has a tendency to...well, be aggressive instead of diplomatic when her opinion is challenged. Granted lots of times she has good reason to be aggressive like when she told Prazza down. He was being an idiot there and Tali was right to want to have two teams, but still sometimes a good leader has to know when to not strong-arm and be more manipulative or else coercive. I don't know that Tali has that in her.
Modifié par Ragabul the Ontarah, 16 septembre 2010 - 11:39 .
#1382
Guest_Runescapeguy9_*
Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 11:39
Guest_Runescapeguy9_*
#1383
Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 11:43
What could she possibly accomplish as an admiral better then that? I think she needs to be a diplomat before anything else.
#1384
Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 11:44
#1385
Guest_Raga_*
Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 11:48
Guest_Raga_*
Alexine wrote...
I don't think Tali could make a good admiral either. However, we can't make a complete analysis until ME3 comes out. Who knows, maybe Tali's character would develop further in ME3?
This is true but she does have some small places where she is put in a leadership position in ME2. Granted the quarians probably didn't figure she would run into a bunch of rogue mechs or the geth. And as was said earlier in the thread there are lots of different types of leaders. Ken and Gabby refer to Tali as their "boss" and things seem to be going pretty well down in engineering. Tali would make a great head of an engineering or research team. I just don't think she would be a good politician or a good squad leader in combat.
#1386
Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 12:10
Modifié par Alexine, 16 septembre 2010 - 12:10 .
#1387
Guest_Raga_*
Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 12:18
Guest_Raga_*
And a random side note, do quarians have claws? Sort of like turians but perhaps smaller? Somehow I don't picture them with fingernails.
#1388
Guest_Runescapeguy9_*
Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 12:20
Guest_Runescapeguy9_*
It is the general consensus that quarians evolved out of a predatory stature, so yes.Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
And a random side note, do quarians have claws? Sort of like turians but perhaps smaller? Somehow I don't picture them with fingernails.
I may happen to disagree with this, but eh. Whatever.
Also, just off of DA:
#1389
Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 12:23
TheodoricFriede wrote...
I think the biggest problem with A.I. hacking is that on higher difficulties, whatever you hacked is just going to get shredded in seconds, and on lower difficulties, by the time you kill all the enemy's the hacked drone turns back on you. Plus the shields have to be down to use it. It just seems easier to kill the enemy right then and there.
Tali should have been given a shield boosting ability instead.
Err...surely you mean that on lower difficulties, whatever you hack is going to get shredded and on higher difficulties, it's going to turn on you by the time you're done with the other enemies?
But yeah, I didn't get any use out of AI hacking in either ME1 or ME2. I only used it in ME1 to get the achievement for it.
Again, concerning the reaction to Tali/Shepard, it probably also depends on how you behave during the trial. If you encourage the quarians to go to war with the geth, and it ends up having disastrous consequences, Shepard's influence is going to take a hit. But yeah, it's true that Tali having a relationship with Shepard specifically might go over better than her just running off with some random alien. I was thinking more along general lines, that quarians may not encourage long-term relationships with other species because it means less quarian children. It's true though, that turian reactions at Garrus/Shep would be a LOT more disapproving. Especially if it's a Renegade Shep.
Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
I totally think the main reason Tali got such a bump up in standing post ME1 is because she helped defeat the geth and possibly brought back that geth data. It's sort of like how generals or famous actors sometimes end up as politicians. People recognize them and thus want to stick them in leadership roles for some reason even if their skills are really better suited for something else.
I think it's also got a lot to do with the fact that she's an Admiral's daughter. She does say in ME1 that great things are expected of her already. Defeating Saren and the geth is just lots of icing on the cake.
As for claws...quarians don't actually strike me as predators (what with the weak immune systems), so no, I don't think they have them. Their fingertips look a lot more rounded than turian ones, at least.
Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 16 septembre 2010 - 12:27 .
#1390
Guest_Runescapeguy9_*
Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 12:28
Guest_Runescapeguy9_*
You should read riptide's theories on this. I thought they were in his blog but apparently they are not. Interesting...Nilfalasiel wrote...
As for claws...quarians don't actually strike me as predators (what with the weak immune systems), so no, I don't think they have them. Their fingertips look a lot more rounded than turian ones, at least.
Edit: Also, for eyesight, check this to answer any questions you may have.
Modifié par Runescapeguy9, 16 septembre 2010 - 12:31 .
#1391
Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 01:05
Runescapeguy9 wrote...
You should read riptide's theories on this. I thought they were in his blog but apparently they are not. Interesting...
Edit: Also, for eyesight, check this to answer any questions you may have.
Yeah, I've already seen that post about eyesight already. Very interesting. Would also be interesting to see those evolutionary theories.
#1392
Guest_Runescapeguy9_*
Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 01:08
Guest_Runescapeguy9_*
I doubt BioWare will ever go into such detail to explain the things, but it would be really nice.Nilfalasiel wrote...
Runescapeguy9 wrote...
You should read riptide's theories on this. I thought they were in his blog but apparently they are not. Interesting...
Edit: Also, for eyesight, check this to answer any questions you may have.
Yeah, I've already seen that post about eyesight already. Very interesting. Would also be interesting to see those evolutionary theories.
#1393
Guest_Raga_*
Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 01:13
Guest_Raga_*
#1394
Guest_mrsph_*
Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 01:24
Guest_mrsph_*
She is a better leader than Zaeed anyway.
#1395
Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 01:31
mrsph wrote...
She is a better leader than Zaeed anyway.
We can all agree on that one.
Then again, it's really not hard to be a better leader than Zaeed.
#1396
Guest_Raga_*
Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 01:32
Guest_Raga_*
mrsph wrote...
I really don't think Tali is a bad leader. She is just a horrible leader compared to someone like Shepard or Garrus who are natural born leaders.
She is a better leader than Zaeed anyway.
True. I think she is better than lots of other people out there. I still don't think she would make a good admiral, at least not right now.
#1397
Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 01:34
And I don't mind if Tali is not a good leader. She compensates for it in so many other ways. She should get a better shield boost in ME3, though. When she got the Colossus armor in ME1, I never had to worry about her going down again, because she had so much shield points and fast recharge, the geth didn't stand a chance.
Also, she and the rest of the squad should be able to perform melee attacks, because I can't remember how often they accidentally ran into an enemy and were downed the second after, because they can't hit them with their weapon or something. And it looks silly.
Modifié par Someone With Mass, 16 septembre 2010 - 01:34 .
#1398
Guest_mrsph_*
Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 01:37
Guest_mrsph_*
Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
True. I think she is better than lots of other people out there. I still don't think she would make a good admiral, at least not right now.
Yeah, I agree with her being a poor choice for an admiral. She is just too young and inexperienced to be in charge of an entire species decisions.
#1399
Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 01:43
And her current position isn't exactly helping. Cleaning and maintaining engines on a ship is pretty much what any quarian does for a living.
Not to mention the politics where she would most likely have to make difficult decisions at some point which could affect the fleet in many ways.
Modifié par Someone With Mass, 16 septembre 2010 - 01:54 .
#1400
Posté 16 septembre 2010 - 01:49
Someone With Mass wrote...
Not to mention the politics where she would most likely have to make difficult decisions at some point which could affect the fleets in many ways.
Considering how difficult it is for her to write a letter of condolences for casualties that weren't even her fault, she'd probably have an excruciatingly hard time trying to make life-or-death decisions at that level.





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