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[Runescapeguy9]

ADLegend21 wrote...

Okay, Yay or Nay.

Every squadmate from Me1 should lead a team that destroys a reaper. I.E tali leads a team of Geth and Quarians and somehow destroy a reaper. Can you see Tali leading or being on a team that destroys one?

In my opinion she is more of a team player and less of a leader. Same goes for everyone else on the squad except for Samara and possibly legion (as it is a team itself), should you choose to activate it.

totp Tali

Modifié par Runescapeguy9, 17 mai 2011 - 04:25 .

[jacobOriley]

Quole wrote...

Even if the whole galaxy is united, I still dont see how defeating the reapers is possible.

Oh c'mon. With Dat Quarian and her drone by your side Mr. Gloomy....

[Quole]

jacobOriley wrote...

Quole wrote...

Even if the whole galaxy is united, I still dont see how defeating the reapers is possible.

Oh c'mon. With Dat Quarian and her drone by your side Mr. Gloomy....

Well, maybe the reapers will see Tali and will be too distracted, watching her that they wont be able to do anything.

Modifié par Quole, 17 mai 2011 - 04:31 .

[Runescapeguy9]

Quole wrote...
Well, maybe the reapers will see Tali and will be too distracted, watching her that wont do anything.

There is a picture about this, but I cannot find it buried in history. So I will post the only other thing I have relatable.

[Quole]

Runescapeguy9 wrote...

Quole wrote...
Well, maybe the reapers will see Tali and will be too distracted, watching her that wont do anything.

There is a picture about this, but I cannot find it buried in history. So I will post the only other thing I have relatable.

Ill admit. I loled

[Faust1991]

Think of all the tali fanfics that would die out if the reapers won? >

[Faust1991]

^ i know but as Mordin said. Universe demands variety

[AnimaTempli101]

Saphra Deden wrote...

99.9% of those fanfics are pretty terrible anyway.

Well that stung. (albeit mine is only 2.7 chapters long and is currently on exam hiatus)

[Troodon80]

Quole wrote...

Even if the whole galaxy is united, I still dont see how defeating the reapers is possible.

Well, that's true, doing the math on it, it doesn't look like great odds.

But I seem to remember one of the magazines saying something about the Reapers can be defeated, but that BioWare is holding that secret very close.

Quarian ships and Geth ships offer the most with regards to number (Disregarding the fact that quite a good number of quarian ships are possibly dilapidated). So we've gotten 50,000 ships from the quarians, and possibly the same from Geth. So that's 100,000.

Next come all the other species with their dreadnoughts, and standard frigates.

Now, comparing all the ships that were lost at the Citadel verses one Reaper... Now were calculate the number of Reapers over a span of 37million years, assuming there's only one Reaper per 50,000 years and not more, or not less, on avarage, I think we can assume one per cycle. That would make roughly 740 minus Soveriegn and the one found near the planet Mnemosyne.

And, well, the numbers don't really offer all that much hope going by all the ships that were lost to Sovereign. No forgetting, of course, that Sovereign was apparently one of the larger ones. There might only be 20 or so large (2km) ships. But those numbers still don't offer much statistical hope. Therefore, there has to be some weakness if there is any hope.

Which there apparently is. So nothing to fret over.

Obviously, I'm as curious as anyone, where our favourite quarian will be in the middle of all this.

Well that stung. (albeit mine is only 2.7 chapters long and is currently on exam hiatus)

I'd say it's more of "Out of all the Fan-fics I've read, 99.9% of them have been awful."

So don't worry.

Modifié par Troodon80, 17 mai 2011 - 08:41 .

[Troodon80]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Bioware will throw in some magical McGuffin we have to find to defeat the Reapers. I guarantee it. I knew as soon as they let us blow up the Collector base what Bioware had in mind. Otherwise it is impossible to defeat the Reapers, I explain in my thread linked in my sig.

Well, there's a certain amount of foreshadowing already with regards to Dark Energy, although that's a pretty speculative topic since almost nothing is explained about it.

Sovereign says; "By using the Technology of the Mass Relays, our technology, you evolve along the paths we desire"
This is pointing to the use of the Citadel and the Mass Relays.

Legion says; "By using technology given to you, it blinds you to alternatives."
Again, this is using technology that was already there.

Now if we deviate from the technology given, or provided, to us from the Reapers we are not blind to alternatives. So, it's a matter of finding out some way to defeat the Reapers that doesn't involve conventional methods.

Maybe Tali can work something out with the data from Haestroms sun... or it's just something else, something even more simple like this giant red button that says "Do not press this button." Who can tell.

[Troodon80]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Legion's statement is a corruption
of the above quote that entirely misses the point about what Sovereign
was talking about and adds subtext that wasn't there. It's the devs
retconning ME1.

What Sovereign was saying is that by using the Mass Relays and Element Zero, we only bother to look into technology that is compatible with Element Zero since we 'know' how it works and that there's an 'abundant' supply, so why bother creating other sources of energy/weapons/shield/or other items when you have one (Element Zero) that already works.

Saphra Deden wrote...

Just ignore all technological development over the last 200+ years and start from scratch. That's what you're advocating.

Uh, no. That's not what I said at all.

What I am saying is more akin to, say, Electricity right now, on Earth. Right now we have standard wind farms, they generate energy. Now, instead of advancing that technology, or just building more wind farms, we go straight to smashing particles together to generate energy.

The two are completely different but one is more advanced.

To find a way of using another 'something', you don't necessarily have to abandon all technological advancements from the last (x) number of years. You just have to change a few things and try something different.

Modifié par Troodon80, 17 mai 2011 - 09:48 .

[MadMapper]

Runescapeguy9 wrote...

ROTFL pure win.

BTW Pink Reapers are horrible XD I can see all the races laughing at them, just before being wiped out.

[Troodon80]

Saphra Deden wrote...

*Snip*

You're quite naive and very closed-minded. But yes, statistically we have no hope, but that doesn't mean that there isn't some alternative that the Reapers are to obnoxious to think we won't come up with.

And, yes, there is your thread that would be better suited to this.

It's a pity Tali's and her people are doomed. They came so close to being worthy of Ascension. So close.

Call me something of an optimist, but this is just negative beyond belief.

I can't say I'm hoping for a Disney style 'happily ever after' ending with Tali (or any other romance-able squaddie), but I can't see the entire galaxy being destroyed either.

Think of it this way, if all the games in the trilogy culminate in the destruction of everything, what's the chance that people will buy future games made by BioWare, since the ending will most likely be a complete failure on the part of the player no matter what happens.

To think that we are all doomed is more than just a little silly.

But regardless, we don't want to bring down the wrath of our good Mr. Priestly.

So more Tali.

[Formis_Sage]

Troodon80 wrote...

Quole wrote...
Even if the whole galaxy is united, I still dont see how defeating the reapers is possible.

Well, that's true, doing the math on it, it doesn't look like great odds.

But I seem to remember one of the magazines saying something about the Reapers can be defeated, but that BioWare is holding that secret very close.

Quarian ships and Geth ships offer the most with regards to number (Disregarding the fact that quite a good number of quarian ships are possibly dilapidated). So we've gotten 50,000 ships from the quarians, and possibly the same from Geth. So that's 100,000.

Next come all the other species with their dreadnoughts, and standard frigates.

Now, comparing all the ships that were lost at the Citadel verses one Reaper... Now were calculate the number of Reapers over a span of 37million years, assuming there's only one Reaper per 50,000 years and not more, or not less, on avarage, I think we can assume one per cycle. That would make roughly 740 minus Soveriegn and the one found near the planet Mnemosyne.

And, well, the numbers don't really offer all that much hope going by all the ships that were lost to Sovereign. No forgetting, of course, that Sovereign was apparently one of the larger ones. There might only be 20 or so large (2km) ships. But those numbers still don't offer much statistical hope. Therefore, there has to be some weakness if there is any hope.

I think Reapers as a race are older than that 37 million years old derelict Reaper in ME2 and that age was presumed by Cerberus so not even that is certain. But you're right that it's the only age indicator we have.

There's probably more than just one Reaper by period but also there must be periods where no Reapers had been created, like the Protheans.

I think there will be much more than just 20 dreadnoughts in the Reaper fleet.
Remember the trailer? There were only Sovereign-like Reapers, the bigger ones and that was only the Earth and only in London.
I doubt they would waste their Dreadnoughts like this if there was so few.

And those ships lost to Sovereign, we should take in account that he was defeated also beacause of his self-confidence and arrogance.
He focused so much power into Saren that by taking Saren down Shepard disabled most of his systems.
At least that seems as suitable explanation of why his kinetic barriers failed immediately after Saren's "death".
And of course Sovereign wasn't able to maneuver as he was attached to the Council Tower.
Think the losses would be much worse if situation was different.

There surely will be some super old lost secret or weakness which Reapers maybe know of and are trying to hide it at all costs or they have no idea such thing exists. We'll see.

Modifié par Formis_Sage, 17 mai 2011 - 11:40 .

[Formis_Sage]

Troodon80 wrote...
*snip*

Think of it this way, if all the games in the trilogy culminate in the destruction of everything, what's the chance that people will buy future games made by BioWare, since the ending will most likely be a complete failure on the part of the player no matter what happens.

To think that we are all doomed is more than just a little silly.
So more Tali.

Well, I suppose there will be both possibilities depending on your choices from all three games.

[Pride Demon]

Hello everyone, I saw that some posts ago people were arguing about what they preferred between Tali's AA and her normal outfit... I myself can't quite decide, however I present you this depiction I found...



This I personally consider a good compromise between AA and normal outfit:
- Keeps her appearance unique;
- Adds a bit of plating so that it doesn't seem she is walking into battle unprepared, but not too much so that she does not appears out of place when not in combat;
- Mantains Tali's tipical "shades of purple" aspect (as much as I liked seeing her in blue, I missed the purple of her standard suit);
- Uses AA texture for the hood (make no mistake, I loved the swirls, but somehow I liked the curved lines in the AA better);
- Has no visor within the visor (while I don't really mind, the thing is becoming a tiresome running joke)

That's my take anyway... What do you think?

PS. Yes I know you don't see her eyes, and no that's something I don't agree with...

[Formis_Sage]

Calinstel wrote...

Quarians doomed? Horsepucky!
The only reason the quarians would be doomed is by the inept playing of some people. The tools for survival have already been laid on the anvil by BioWare. We just need to be smart enough to forge and use those tools to save not just the quarians, but the geth as well. I fully expect the peaceful ending to the quarian/geth conflict to be tedious and irritating at times but so be it. I'm willing to put effort into the game, even if it means not just shooting things, especially if it means not shooting things.

I was truly disappointed that as soon as Shepard heard peace was a viable option with the geth from Legion, that he did not scream at the top of his lungs at EDI to get Tali there now. Shame on you BW.

Well, take Legion to the Migrant Fleet and she will know it. Also the dialogue between those two on Tuchanka concerning the current state of Rannoch shows Geth's willingness for peaceful way.

Modifié par Formis_Sage, 17 mai 2011 - 12:01 .

[MadMapper]

I would like a suit similar to Jacob's one, something made with layers of different materiels



I love those things on the shoulders, looks like armour but without the metallic looking of Tali's AA... like a super resistant plastic / fiber.

Then paint it with some light colors. I would like some white on the armor with her violet cloth being visible in certain zones.

[Alienmorph]

Sounds intriguing... but now I have a mental image of Tali with Jacob's uniform over her suit >_<