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jamesp81

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Someone With Mass wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...

Has Bioware confirmed this?  The only source I've seen this from is one of the gaming magazines that is considered unreliable, and has been wrong on ME3 stuff before, apparently.

Though I can see either one being considered for the position, I've yet to hear from a credible source that it's true.


Yes, they're Spectres.

In one of the full body shots of Kaidan, you can see the Spectre logo on his right arm. 


Didn't know the Spectres had a logo.

In any case, I find it believable for either one of them.  It's not as if they were sitting around doing nothing for those two years Shepard was strapped to an operating table.

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Saphra Deden wrote...
Also, yes, Tali shouldn't have been so awkward and shy in the romance. She isn't like that anywhere else. Even in the romance dialogue she has the odd line that is very confident and... uhm, dare I say, aggressive. That's how she should have been the whole time.

So what, people have to be strong and confident in all aspects of life?  Sorry, no, I like her character the way she is, with a little vulnerability.

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Colossus armor looks a lot better than phoenix, imo.

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Yup.

(but Onyx is best)

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mikethor007 wrote...

What's up with this forum that it keeps signing me out...

Capt_Flashheart wrote...

Or they could, I don't know, not break the canon sexuality of old characters and just introduce a new bi character, which absolutely no one is opposed to.

On an unrelated note, Casey has again confirmed Tali as a full squadmate and main character in ME3

This.


Oooof. This solves absolutely all my worries for ME3. Bring on the awesome! :wub:

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Troodon80 wrote...

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Yeeeesss. Nurse Tali.

I think this is the first time I see a fanart where Tali wearing the phoenix suit.
This is a rare gem.

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Colossus armor hides all the details. It's too dark. Phoenix shows them off.

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So what if she's a little shy? People have those moments all the time.

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When we all know now, that Tali will be a permanent squadmate in ME3, I was wondering what will be Tali's reception for Shepard's actions in the last game, regarding the way of doing her loyalty mission and possible encounter with Legion if both were loyal.

It comes up with various scenarios:

1) Tali isn't present for trial on Migrant Fleet and gets exiled.
2) Tali is disloyal to Shepard, because he/she gave a evidence of Rael'Zorah guilt.
3) Shepard wasn't revealed evidence, Tali is exiled, but loyal.
4) Shepard cleaned Tali of all charged by mentioning her past service for Fleet.

and conflict with Tali and Legion:

1) Shepard sided with Tali
2) Shepard sided with Legion
3) Shepard charmed/intimidated both.

not to mention that she is a possible love interest for MalShep.

My question is:
How strong these scenarios will differ from each other and how it will be carried out in ME3?

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If Tali is disloyal I hope she matures a little and understands that what Shepard did was for her and everyone's benefit.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Colossus armor hides all the details. It's too dark. Phoenix shows them off.

Agreed. The swirls are almost invisible.

NuclearBuddha wrote...
*Colossus back snip*

That's another big difference. The Colossus suit is her shiniest suit.
That's a good example. Very shiny.

@Tribell: A lot of variables. I don't want to think much about it. I did the same before ME2 and the answer was: 'A lot of e-mails.'

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Collider wrote...
Oh dear lord, I remember all of the arguments people made believing that that in ME3 none of the ME1 and/or ME2 squad mates were return, except for cameos...hehe.

oh kraidy...

Someone With Mass wrote...

So what if she's a little shy? People have those moments all the time.

yes. not everyone has a static personality for every moment in existence. showing a little weakness in a personal situation was a nice touch.

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I preferred colossus. The colors fit my Shepard from both ME1 and ME2.

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I preferred the Survivor armor for her.

But I just think yellow suited her in one :)

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I liked Explorer and Survivor armor for Tali, I mostly stuck to Onyx armor though! I agree with NuclearBuddha, I like Tali the way she is, I like the slight vulnerability she shows in the romance.

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Tali thread on Page 2?

Outrageous!

Hey, apparently, since we pushed the devs buttons enough, and Stanley Woo's... They finally are making things happening for Tali in ME3. I hope that doesn't mean anything bad though.

House on Rannoch!

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Adopt a baby Hanar!











Wait what?

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I have an idea that may provide a solution to the problem of whether Bioware should reveal Tali's face, what she looks like, and the fans reaction to it...

Looking through the (many) pages of discussion regarding what she could look like, there are many diverse opinions and lots of brilliant ideas and fan art. So, from Bioware's point of view, getting this right is going to be tough. Therefore, the 'reveal' needs to be done in such a way that you are not going to judge Tali purely based upon what she looks like (I am sure many of you won't do that anyway, but I am aiming for the most favourable approach for all ME3 players). Consider a situation like this:
       During the game, Shepard and the team are faced with overwhelming odds and attempting to escape from a planet, but cannot because...(e.g. the drop ship is grounded by Cerberus and only a hacker with tech skills can manually override the planets main computer and free the ship). Tali then sacrifices herself to assist Shepards escape but is left behind on the planet along with certain death. Tali makes this choice because she realises Shepard is the only one who can save the galaxy, and so sacrifices herself so he can. After escaping, Shepard then continues to fight the Reaper invasion while wondering if Tali is alive or dead. After stopping the reapers, you make your way to the planet where you left Tali, only to find mass devastation and a barely alive Tali. Her suit is torn and her mask smashed. You finally see her face. At this point, after sacrificing herself to save you, and as she lies dying in your arms, are you going to tell her you dont like the way she looks? My guess is, you won't even be thinking about her face, but wondering what you can do to save her.

I think something like this may solve the problem of how to present Tali's appearance, as at the point of death, you realise that staying alive is the most important thing (and thus, increased acceptance of however she looks)...

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Karimloo wrote...

House on Rannoch!

That would be a very nice ending to the trilogy for Tali fans.

AnimaTempli101 wrote...

Adopt a baby Hanar!

Adopting a quarian named Raela would be much better.

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Tali as a confirmed, main, recruitable character makes me the happiest guy alive right now. Nothing that happens today can get me down.

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One of the reasons why I don't agree with the wounded/dying Tali shows her face approach is that Tali's face is no longer significant to Shepard himself. He's already seen it. A scene where Tali takes off her mask as she is dying or some such would be far more significant if Shepard hadn't already seen her face...but he has.

ME2 was their opportunity for a dramatic reveal and that window is passed now. I'm not saying that they shouldn't do a nice scene for when her face is revealed to the player, but at this point (Shepard's already seen face in ME2) I don't think it would warrant that much drama.

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T.Attwood wrote...

I have an idea that may provide a solution to the problem of whether Bioware should reveal Tali's face, what she looks like, and the fans reaction to it...

Looking through the (many) pages of discussion regarding what she could look like, there are many diverse opinions and lots of brilliant ideas and fan art. So, from Bioware's point of view, getting this right is going to be tough. Therefore, the 'reveal' needs to be done in such a way that you are not going to judge Tali purely based upon what she looks like (I am sure many of you won't do that anyway, but I am aiming for the most favourable approach for all ME3 players). Consider a situation like this:
       During the game, Shepard and the team are faced with overwhelming odds and attempting to escape from a planet, but cannot because...(e.g. the drop ship is grounded by Cerberus and only a hacker with tech skills can manually override the planets main computer and free the ship). Tali then sacrifices herself to assist Shepards escape but is left behind on the planet along with certain death. Tali makes this choice because she realises Shepard is the only one who can save the galaxy, and so sacrifices herself so he can. After escaping, Shepard then continues to fight the Reaper invasion while wondering if Tali is alive or dead. After stopping the reapers, you make your way to the planet where you left Tali, only to find mass devastation and a barely alive Tali. Her suit is torn and her mask smashed. You finally see her face. At this point, after sacrificing herself to save you, and as she lies dying in your arms, are you going to tell her you dont like the way she looks? My guess is, you won't even be thinking about her face, but wondering what you can do to save her.

I think something like this may solve the problem of how to present Tali's appearance, as at the point of death, you realise that staying alive is the most important thing (and thus, increased acceptance of however she looks)...


I posted something similar awhile back, except exchange planet combat for a space battle intervention. The overall opinion of it was that it was made out that we were not given a choice to save her which were opposed by most here. I agree, nearly all deaths in ME3 should be optional if you put in enough time and effort to making sure they survive ala ME2.

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Karimloo wrote...
House on Rannoch!

Troodon80 wrote...
Adopting a quarian named Raela would be much better.


Seconded and seconded.

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mikethor007 wrote...

Karimloo wrote...
House on Rannoch!

Troodon80 wrote...
Adopting a quarian named Raela would be much better.


Seconded and seconded.

:3

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Runescapeguy9 wrote...

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Wish I could get something half as good as that. Very nice.

NuclearBuddha wrote...

:3

If only someone would write what happens to Raela next. Where o' where could we find such a writer I wonder? Heh, I'm kidding. But really, it would be nice if BioWare did something like Raela, just at the end sequence of ME3 to finish the Tali romance off.