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[TTTX]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Actually, saving the rachni queen is a middle choice but failshep kills her which is renegade. Default Shep always goes with stuff that is least likely to have visible consequences in the next game so people won't be confused. Hence dead Wrex, dead Council, dead Rachni queen, etc. so that those people don't show up and start talking and confusing the newbs.

it would be easier with a small intro in the begining of the game like Mass Effect in 5 minutes.

[Someone With Mass]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I think the PS3 version is going to have like a prologue or something so the PS3 people aren't always stuck with failshep.

I wonder how they'll do with specific decisions, like giving Tali the geth data.

[Volrath937]

What sucks is, whatever roll Tali has in ME3, it can't be too pivotal to the plot. I suppose they could whip up a new NPC to fill her position if she died, but that would entail recording 2 sets of dialogue for the same thing.

[TTTX]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I think the PS3 version is going to have like a prologue or something so the PS3 people aren't always stuck with failshep.

I wonder how they'll do with specific decisions, like giving Tali the geth data.

it would be easier to say to chose from this.

you want a complet paragon Shepard.

middel paragon

little paragon

neutral

little renergade

middel renergade

completly renergade

but I just hope we get all the dialog including Tali's extra dialog like with the few sentences about Cerberus with the racnih and torian creppers.

[Someone With Mass]

Volrath937 wrote...

What sucks is, whatever roll Tali has in ME3, it can't be too pivotal to the plot. I suppose they could whip up a new NPC to fill her position if she died, but that would entail recording 2 sets of dialogue for the same thing.

I really hope that isn't what BioWare planned for when they decided that everyone could be killed off just because it was a suicide mission.

[Volrath937]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I think her role can be as relevant to the plot as it was in ME2 at least. ME3 doesn't have to be so streamlined as ME2 so variables shouldn't be as much of a problem. Not to mention that Bioware will hopefully have more time since they won't need to fiddle with the graphics and gameplay as much this time around.

Welllll they could make her a pivotal plot character, and just block off all the content related to her if she died in ME2. You're right though, in ME2 she wasn't that plot important really. Other than the romance path and potentially affecting how the geth/quarian conflict ends, her most important contribution to the suicide mission was the multi-core shielding. 

[TTTX]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I'm pretty confident Team Dextro will be around in some pretty significant way. Maybe not squaddies but they aren't going to vanish. I posted a large wall of text explaining my reasoning on this in Clan Z some time ago.

I wish them to return as squatemates because they are Shepards right and left hand at least on my team, they can't take them away BW better listen to the fans on this.

[Thundertactics]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I'm pretty confident Team Dextro will be around in some pretty significant way. Maybe not squaddies but they aren't going to vanish. I posted a large wall of text explaining my reasoning on this in Clan Z some time ago.

To put it simply, Tali and Garrus have nowhere else to go, and would not trade in their position beside (a good) Shepard for anything else in the universe.
Anything short of them being squaddies and LI's in ME3 would be immense laziness at cost of proper writing and character development on BioWare's end.

Mass Effect's main plot is rather bland, typical sci-fi stuff (heck, I could easily find a lot of the main setpieces of the series in Freelancer), it's the characters that do it for me. Mess with those, and I would be far less inclined to buy ME3 as soon as it comes out.

[Someone With Mass]

Would be pretty stupid if BioWare decided to make two characters from the first game even more popular in the second only to have them removed in the third. They'd be giving the fans a middle finger the size of the Citadel.

[TTTX]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Would be pretty stupid if BioWare decided to make two characters from the first game even more popular in the second only to have them removed in the third. They'd be giving the fans a middle finger the size of the Citadel.

which would make the fans very angry, some more then others.

Tali and Garrus is not a squatemate I suspect some of the fans will go into some kind of protest and writ angry emails to BW.

[Volrath937]

Thundertactics wrote...
Mass Effect's main plot is rather bland, typical sci-fi stuff (heck, I could easily find a lot of the main setpieces of the series in Freelancer), it's the characters that do it for me. Mess with those, and I would be far less inclined to buy ME3 as soon as it comes out.

After the geth debacle in ME2, the only reason I'm buying 3 is to see how the characters turn out. They made the Tali romance for the fans, and they know how well received she was.

[Someone With Mass]

That's pretty much the reason I'm buying ME3 as well. The Reapers died with Sovereign in my opinion. I just want to see how the characters and romances will play out.



If Tali is less than she deserves, then I won't even bother with the game. I'll just say that the Reapers came and killed everything.

[Volrath937]

Tali: "Shepard, good news!"

Shepard: "What is it Tali?"

Tali: "The Admirality Board decided to revoke my exile and make me an admiral! I need to leave right now!"

Shepard: "What?!"

Tali: "See you in the epilogue!"

[TTTX]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I'll play it pretty much regardless unless they turn it into a side-scrolling platformer or something equally weird. But I will be epically disappointed if Tali and Garrus get sidelined.

it wouldn't be very smart on BWs part Tali and Garrus is the most popular characters in the ME univers lots of money will be lost if they did that.

Modifié par TTTX, 16 septembre 2010 - 04:40 .

[NuclearBuddha]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Or maybe have fewer upgrades but they get better and better as time goes on. Sort of turn the Normandy into a stronghold quest. So maybe Tali is constantly working on upgrades and she says if you bring me "X, Y, and Z" I can do this. Or else just keep giving her resources and something gets continually better.

Oh, God, I f-ing love strongholds!  I'm a slave for pimping out living spaces.  Pathetic, I know.  Apparently I didn't have enough secret clubhouses as a child.

Anyway, if travel time becomes important in ME3 (like it's a race to get missions done as the Reapers close in), I can see her increasing the Normandy's speed.  Finely tuned engine, quarian navigation routes, that sort of thing.

[NuclearBuddha]

Someone With Mass wrote...
I wonder how they'll do with specific decisions, like giving Tali the geth data.

Same thing failShep does, probably.

[NuclearBuddha]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
I'm a sucker for stronghold quests as well.  This is one of the main reasons I am excited about DA2 as that whole "champion of Kirkwall" thing really looks like it could contain an epic stronghold quest.

I also think as somebody else mentioned earlier that there is a decent chance that ME3 might have some kind of "muster your forces" kind of plot.  Makes since given Wrex and all this stuff with the geth and the quarians and so on.  I think a stronghold quest/outfitting armies type thing would make a lot of sense.  The only reason I shy from this is because it is pretty similar to the plot of DAO and I don't know if Bioware would repeat themsleves that soon.  But Bioware games are always pretty much a bunch of "short stories" that are at their heart a fetch quest of some kind.

Don't even get me started on stuff like Suikoden.  I'd probably walk a mile on the surface of the sun for more potted plants to put in the windows or something.  I'm imagining an epic 5-planet string of missions to get the pieces for a clean room for Tali already.

It seems an obvious direction to take it, but the first two ME games weren't really that way, you know?  Doesn't mean they won't change it up, of course, but ME was a different kind of game than that.  Though I'd be just fine with such a plot.  I like heroic and large-scale battles.

[Someone With Mass]

I'd like different decisions with those upgrades, like sacrificing stronger shields for speed and maneuverability or increase the rate of fire while the damage remains the same, and those upgrades will determine the outcome of the battle. Cons and pros with upgrades. Make people think.