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[NuclearBuddha]

Someone With Mass wrote...

I'd like different decisions with those upgrades, like sacrificing stronger shields for speed and maneuverability or increase the rate of fire while the damage remains the same, and those upgrades will determine the outcome of the battle. Cons and pros with upgrades. Make people think.

Sort of like the weapon mod system in STALKER?

Hey, that'd be an idea:  Tali unlocking extra mod routes or something.  Some of that fabled quarian tinkering, y'know?

[Someone With Mass]

ME3 is supposed to have more RPG elements in it, so why not?

[Danosuke]

Here have some spam!

I made that costume and my wife wore it.



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[turelhimvampire]

Hey guys, just got home from work.



Do you think this dialog runs true for Garrus and Tali - wasn't sure if I got Garrus right - he's not easy to pin down. I was going for something akin to their elevator conversations in ME1, but don't know if I captured the essence:

“We’re here.” Tali said, checking the datapad that they had taken from the security officer they had interrogated earlier. She shuddered at the memory of Zaeed and Garrus going to work on the captured human. The mercenary had seemed to enjoy it, and worryingly so had Garrus. The old human was a bad influence on the turian, and Tali made a mental note to raise the subject to Shepard once they were finished here.



Shepard. The thought of the commander brought back the memory of his pale body laid on the bed in the Normandy’s medi-bay, stripped to the waist and covered in blood. After a moments effort she pushed her worries aside – she could not jeopardise the mission by getting distracted.



“You worry too much.” Garrus purred in her ear, keeping his voice low so Thane and Zaeed did not hear, the two men working together to sweep the storage room, ensuring no Cerberus troops were lying in wait. Tali jumped at the sound, having not heard the turian come up beside her.



“Shepard has been through a lot – taken much worse than just shrapnel. That said, he has been dead, so that’s pretty much a given.” He continued, his mandibles clicking in amusement.



“You know Garrus, you really are a bosh’tet.” Tali hissed, half serious. Behind her helmet her cheeks were flushed, her face burning with embarrassment.



“All clear.” Zaeed’s voice called out from within the storage room, interrupting their conversation.



“I do my best.” The turian confessed, smiling at Tali one last time before following after the human and the drell.

[Someone With Mass]

Oh, very nice suit.

[turelhimvampire]

Wow, that costume looks epic!



I really don't mind Cosplay when it looks this good.

[Wolf Warden]

turelhimvampire wrote...

Hey guys, just got home from work.

Do you think this dialog runs true for Garrus and Tali - wasn't sure if I got Garrus right - he's not easy to pin down. I was going for something akin to their elevator conversations in ME1, but don't know if I captured the essence:

Garrus sounds okay.  Tali shouldn't have gotten embarrassed and I don't know how Garrus read her mind...but otherwise its cool.

[Volrath937]

Excellent job with the costume Dano.



Does Tali ever warm up to Garrus? I know the popular opinion is that they're buddies, but from what I remember in ME1 he was a complete jerk to her.

[Someone With Mass]

Volrath937 wrote...

Excellent job with the costume Dano.

Does Tali ever warm up to Garrus? I know the popular opinion is that they're buddies, but from what I remember in ME1 he was a complete jerk to her.

I can see them as buddies to a certain point. They seem to like making fun out of each other, but they know it's friendly.

But if you mean sit down and talk about sensitive things, then no.

[NuclearBuddha]

Volrath937 wrote...

What sucks is, whatever roll Tali has in ME3, it can't be too pivotal to the plot. I suppose they could whip up a new NPC to fill her position if she died, but that would entail recording 2 sets of dialogue for the same thing.

I should note that they've already done some things like this such as Shiala and Wrex.

It wouldn't be two complete sets of dialogue, it'd be (just as an example):

Tali:  Squad banter > Normandy dialogue > LI dialogue > Plot dialogue

NPC:    None            >        None                    >      None       > Plot dialogue

I'd feel real sorry for the people who decided not to carry squadmates over in to the next game if this was the case.

[CroGamer002]

Volrath937 wrote...

Excellent job with the costume Dano.

Does Tali ever warm up to Garrus? I know the popular opinion is that they're buddies, but from what I remember in ME1 he was a complete jerk to her.

Garrus was jerk to almost everyone in ME1( don't recall anything on Ash).

But I believe they are buddies.

[NuclearBuddha]

turelhimvampire wrote...
“Shepard has been through a lot – taken much worse than just shrapnel. That said, he has been dead, so that’s pretty much a given.” He continued, his mandibles clicking in amusement.

His dialogue could use contractions in this line:

"Shepard's been"  "he's been dead"

Maybe even "The Commander's been."  Garrus seems to use the rank from time to time.

[Someone With Mass]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

I'd feel real sorry for the people who decided not to carry squadmates over in to the next game if this was the case.

I don't. If they killed off everyone except two, then they deserve to have their game filled with NPCs. Or even worse, make it backfire.

[NuclearBuddha]

I think the thing that brings Garrus and Tali together as friends is that they're the only ones from the old days still with Shepard. If they want to commiserate on that, they've only each other to talk to about it.

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"I'm not a child," fumed Tali, "I know she and Shepard were... close. And I know that what she said on Ilium hurt him. But now he's telling me that he wants to link environments?"

"Look," Garrus broke the tirade, "you said you were the one that brought up linking suits."

"Well, yes."

"So, why get angry about it?" He could at least try to keep it simple. "Liara's not here. Her head's in the wrong place anyway, I think, and it's been years since she was with Shepard."

"But that doesn't mean," Tali interrupted furiously, "that she can just forget. I certainly..." Her voice clipped off abruptly.

Garrus had to stifle a chuckle. Like anyone didn't already know about what Tali thought of Shepard. He was no expert on quarians, but watching Tali prattle on to Shepard back in the old days about the minutia of the Pilgrimage had been almost painful sometimes. And then there were her research logs on Haestrom.

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Over

[Collider]

If you look at the banter in ME1, this is basically how it progresses:

1.
Garrus: Tali, I hope your people are properly contrite for the geth.
2.
Garrus: Your people could just settle on another planet. Then you'd have no problems.
3.
Garrus: So your people couldn't even settle down if they wanted to. I'm sorry.

So basically what happens is that Garrus has his preconceptions challenged. He wasn't mean *to* Tali, but he was a little insensitive to the Quarian situation (which is understandable, if one is an outsider). However after spending time with Tali he realizes that the Quarian condition is sympathetic. I believe this is actually part of Garrus' character development. In the beginning he thinks he has everything figured out. However, he starts having his ideas challenged, and he starts thinking. This is pretty much spelled out in the fact that Shepard can paragon him in ME1. In ME2, of course, if Sidonis is spared Garrus admits that he had been thinking in black and white, and that the world isn't really like that.

They didn't start off as friends, but I think they grew into them.
If you notice, there's only two people that Garrus is actually snarky with. Shepard, and Tali. In ME1, when Shepard was kind of his equal and not precisely "buddies," Garrus would have probably never dreamed of being sarcastic with Shep.In ME2 however they are - I think that Garrus feels comfortable enough to joke around with Shepard and Tali, which for him would basically mean they are friends.

Modifié par Collider, 16 septembre 2010 - 06:30 .

[Volrath937]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

I think the thing that brings Garrus and Tali together as friends is that they're the only ones from the old days still with Shepard. If they want to commiserate on that, they've only each other to talk to about it.

Just read through your story, I really like your interpretation of their relationship. Not BFF"s, but people who've through a lot together. You planning on doing a story taking place during LotSB? Very fertile territory there. 

Collider: I see. All I could remember from the ME1 banter was Garrus going on about being trite, why she wears a suit, etc. 

Modifié par Volrath937, 16 septembre 2010 - 06:29 .

[Giggles_Manically]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I do think Wrex and Garrus hate each others' guts though that is another story. He also doesn't like Miranda.

I dont think he would like most of the people on the SR2.
Maybe Jacob, Samara, and Tali.

[Someone With Mass]

mrsph wrote...

Tali seems to make friends easily. Even Pressly started to grow fond of her.

And Kelly, Kasumi, Joker and Garrus. As Tali said, quarians are a very social people.