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NuclearBuddha wrote...

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Apparently.

Gerrel and Shala didn't want her on trial, and Xen didn't care one way or the other. She seemed more interested in the underlying problem than putting up with Han's political ploys, though if Tali really did send back working parts, she wasn't going to let that go unpunished.

Xen was clearly the deciding vote.

For the trial to go forward, perhaps.  But I think Koris is the deciding vote at the end.  He seems to be the one hesitating.


If Tali is not convicted, I think all three exonerate her. As Xen says, "Tali's exile would have been unfortunate."

If she is convicted though, I'm fairly sure it's Xen and Zaal against Han. Han makes a statement that he pushed as hard as he could, so it seems likely he still voted to exonerate her.

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

For the trial to go forward, perhaps.  But I think Koris is the deciding vote at the end.  He seems to be the one hesitating.


Glad that they're not going by the system where the trial goes on until everyone has an agreement.

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Isn't Tali the only character whose dialog changes if you break up with her.



Fake edit: Well I guess Jack does too.

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The one if you're seeing someone else and tell her she was right the whole time, and that it won't work with the mission, however, is a bit wrenching.

Shepard is the biggest douche of all time if he does this.


This.

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Isn't Tali the only character whose dialog changes if you break up with her.

Fake edit: Well I guess Jack does too.


Yeah. Because they actually have a lot vested into you at that point, and Garrus is such a bro that he can understand why Shepard might hesitate.

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Collider wrote...

The one if you're seeing someone else and tell her she was right the whole time, and that it won't work with the mission, however, is a bit wrenching.

Shepard is the biggest douche of all time if he does this.


He should be castrated in public and burned at the stake if he does it.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Collider wrote...

The one if you're seeing someone else and tell her she was right the whole time, and that it won't work with the mission, however, is a bit wrenching.

Shepard is the biggest douche of all time if he does this.


He should be castrated in public and burned at the stake if he does it.


Still don't know how some people can turn down Tali for Jack or Miranda.

Girl says she's willing to get sick and die to be with you... and.... no? You're gonna chase after the girl with an attitude problem or the fragile psycho?

Could understand if you're in a relationship with Ash or Liara, but... still. Turning her down just seems so... sad...

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I wonder what kind of personal belongings Tali had/has on the Rayya. She should take some of it and make a place for them in the cabin.

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RiptideX1090 wrote...
Still don't know how some people can turn down Tali for Jack or Miranda.

Girl says she's willing to get sick and die to be with you... and.... no? You're gonna chase after the girl with an attitude problem or the fragile psycho?

Could understand if you're in a relationship with Ash or Liara, but... still. Turning her down just seems so... sad...


Shepard could probably not want to damage her health or their friendship.

At least the turn-down for Tali's romance is probably the most gentle.

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Still don't know how some people can turn down Tali for Jack or Miranda.

Girl says she's willing to get sick and die to be with you... and.... no? You're gonna chase after the girl with an attitude problem or the fragile psycho?

Could understand if you're in a relationship with Ash or Liara, but... still. Turning her down just seems so... sad...


Do, or do not. There is no try.

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mrsph wrote...

Shepard could probably not want to damage her health or their friendship.

At least the turn-down for Tali's romance is probably the most gentle.


If you're going down that path, that is.

Can be one of the most heart-breaking moments in the game too.

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I wonder what kind of personal belongings Tali had/has on the Rayya. She should take some of it and make a place for them in the cabin.

Probably very little.  And as the exemplary quarian she is, she might have even given them away when she left.

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I can see where a paragon Shep wouldn't want to risk Tali getting sick. I think that is is actually kind of silly that you can't have a "I feel the same way about you, but I'm not cool with risking your health" option. Granted it works out, but I don't like how it's sleep with her or bust.

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

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I wonder what kind of personal belongings Tali had/has on the Rayya. She should take some of it and make a place for them in the cabin.

Probably very little.  And as the exemplary quarian she is, she might have even given them away when she left.

This. Quarians have very little in personal belongings in general.

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RiptideX1090 wrote...

Still don't know how some people can turn down Tali for Jack or Miranda.

Girl says she's willing to get sick and die to be with you... and.... no? You're gonna chase after the girl with an attitude problem or the fragile psycho?

Could understand if you're in a relationship with Ash or Liara, but... still. Turning her down just seems so... sad...

Pretty much, the only way you could not romance Tali while not being a total douche is either by not talking to her after her loyalty mission or by telling her you're not interested as soon as possible.

I really wish Jack's romance wasn't so damn creepy on Shepard's end, or that I could simply hug her without ditching Tali in the process. ;-;

I also wish there was some sort of interaction between the potential LI's, especially when you turn one down for another. (Sure, Tali might swallow her pride and deal with it, but Jack and Miranda would be a fair bit more volatile)

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I can see where a paragon Shep wouldn't want to risk Tali getting sick. I think that is is actually kind of silly that you can't have a "I feel the same way about you, but I'm not cool with risking your health" option. Granted it works out, but I don't like how it's sleep with her or bust.


Maybe Shepard was confident that she would find a way to make it work.

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
I can see where a paragon Shep wouldn't want to risk Tali getting sick. I think that is is actually kind of silly that you can't have a "I feel the same way about you, but I'm not cool with risking your health" option. Granted it works out, but I don't like how it's sleep with her or bust.

The way I see it is that it's kind of patronizing to tell her it's not safe when she's the one at risk and she's ready and willing to take the chance.  She's willing to trust, why isn't Shep?

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I can see where a paragon Shep wouldn't want to risk Tali getting sick. I think that is is actually kind of silly that you can't have a "I feel the same way about you, but I'm not cool with risking your health" option. Granted it works out, but I don't like how it's sleep with her or bust.

It's an unfortunate dichotomy, yea. Though I espouse the belief that if the relationship wouldn't work
before a suicide mission, then maybe it wouldn't work at all.

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I can see where a paragon Shep wouldn't want to risk Tali getting sick. I think that is is actually kind of silly that you can't have a "I feel the same way about you, but I'm not cool with risking your health" option. Granted it works out, but I don't like how it's sleep with her or bust.

Ultimately, it's her decision, you've had plenty of chance to voice your concern and ask how sick she'd get.
In the end, you just have to trust her to do the right thing, not to risk her health to any serious extent. And what would Tali's romance be without trust?

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
I can see where a paragon Shep wouldn't want to risk Tali getting sick. I think that is is actually kind of silly that you can't have a "I feel the same way about you, but I'm not cool with risking your health" option. Granted it works out, but I don't like how it's sleep with her or bust.

The way I see it is that it's kind of patronizing to tell her it's not safe when she's the one at risk and she's ready and willing to take the chance.  She's willing to trust, why isn't Shep?

Hmm, interesting. I can see what you're saying.

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I really, really want more friendship paths in Mass Effect 3 in general. I'm sick of having to romance a character just to get their whole life-story.



At least Tali, Garrus, Thane, and Jacob didn't suffer so much from that.

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

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I wonder what kind of personal belongings Tali had/has on the Rayya. She should take some of it and make a place for them in the cabin.

Probably very little.  And as the exemplary quarian she is, she might have even given them away when she left.


Still, something small which they can have on the table by the couch as a reminder of the fleet would be nice.

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Collider wrote...

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The way I see it is that it's kind of patronizing to tell her it's not safe when she's the one at risk and she's ready and willing to take the chance.  She's willing to trust, why isn't Shep?

Hmm, interesting. I can see what you're saying.

It's like saying "I dig you and all, but let's face it: you're a quarian.  It won't work" when she's trying her hardest to make it work.

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Still, something small which they can have on the table by the couch as a reminder of the fleet would be nice.

I'm willing to bet their most treasured possessions are usually data.  Pictures, recordings, messages, etc.

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

It's like saying "I dig you and all, but let's face it: you're a quarian.  It won't work" when she's trying her hardest to make it work.

Kind of like taking the paragon dialogue on the Alarei going "Sh!t happens, deal with it", huh, Buddha? >_>