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Still, something small which they can have on the table by the couch as a reminder of the fleet would be nice.


Remember that shipmodel you found near her dad's corpse?

Yeah, Shepard's a dick.

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I really, really want more friendship paths in Mass Effect 3 in general. I'm sick of having to romance a character just to get their whole life-story.

At least Tali, Garrus, Thane, and Jacob didn't suffer so much from that.


This. I've never heard all of Samara or Jack's dialogues because of that reason. And to make light physical contact, like a friendly hug would be appriciated. 

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Still, something small which they can have on the table by the couch as a reminder of the fleet would be nice.

I'm willing to bet their most treasured possessions are usually data.  Pictures, recordings, messages, etc.

I think that does make sense. That fits with the VIs of their ancestors that they used to have, and the fact that things such as data would be very compact. One could simply store them on an omnitool. Space is limited on the Flotilla.

It's certainly something to think about.

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Remember that shipmodel you found near her dad's corpse?

Yeah, Shepard's a dick.


Okay, maybe not that particular memory.

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I can see what you mean about trust, but Tali is actually the one who takes back what she said at first in the second conversation specifically because of the suit and her concern that she can't make Shep happy IE physically happy. And then he pretty much says he doesn't care about that. And then suddenly, that's when sex comes up and it becomes sleep with her or bust. It's just kind of odd. I also wouldn't pick the celibate option. I just think that some romances could actually make sense with one. Saving sex for later I mean. Tali's is one. Jack is certainly one. Sex with Jack is flat out creepy.

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I can see where a paragon Shep wouldn't want to risk Tali getting sick. I think that is is actually kind of silly that you can't have a "I feel the same way about you, but I'm not cool with risking your health" option. Granted it works out, but I don't like how it's sleep with her or bust.

The way I see it is that it's kind of patronizing to tell her it's not safe when she's the one at risk and she's ready and willing to take the chance.  She's willing to trust, why isn't Shep?


The important part is they find a way to make it work. Together. As a team. A couple. Shepard states this very clearly if you make the right dialogue choices.

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I can see what you mean about trust, but Tali is actually the one who takes back what she said at first in the second conversation specifically because of the suit and her concern that she can't make Shep happy IE physically happy. And then he pretty much says he doesn't care about that. And then suddenly, that's when sex comes up and it becomes sleep with her or bust. It's just kind of odd. I also wouldn't pick the celibate option. I just think that some romances could actually make sense with one. Saving sex for later I mean. Tali's is one. Jack is certainly one. Sex with Jack is flat out creepy.

Jack creeps the hell out of me anyway, but her Paragon romance is just beautiful, in my opinion.

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I'm willing to bet their most treasured possessions are usually data.  Pictures, recordings, messages, etc.


Well, there you go. A picture, or piece of a recorded message which can be accessed on a datapad in the room. Maybe the datapad.

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Kind of like taking the paragon dialogue on the Alarei going "Sh!t happens, deal with it", huh, Buddha? >_>

Sure, except that's just talk (which I still stand by!).  Breaking up with her to preserve her health is action.

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The important part is they find a way to make it work. Together. As a team. A couple. Shepard states this very clearly if you make the right dialogue choices.


Gotta love that. Some more couple talk would be fantastic in ME3. Something to say that's official - they are a couple.

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I can see what you mean about trust, but Tali is actually the one who takes back what she said at first in the second conversation specifically because of the suit and her concern that she can't make Shep happy IE physically happy. And then he pretty much says he doesn't care about that. And then suddenly, that's when sex comes up and it becomes sleep with her or bust. It's just kind of odd. I also wouldn't pick the celibate option. I just think that some romances could actually make sense with one. Saving sex for later I mean. Tali's is one. Jack is certainly one. Sex with Jack is flat out creepy.


The main issue wasn't that Tali getting sick could hurt or kill her, it was that it could slow down Shepard, distract him from the mission. That was her real concern.

Him stating he doesn't want anyone else, and that he's willing to do whatever it takes to make it work, wait, research, whatever, means that they can now work together to figure out how to make it work, hence why the conversation turns to sex.

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Maybe the datapad.
*snip*

Enough with the datapad, Shep!  It's Tali time!

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I can see what you mean about trust, but Tali is actually the one who takes back what she said at first in the second conversation specifically because of the suit and her concern that she can't make Shep happy IE physically happy. And then he pretty much says he doesn't care about that. And then suddenly, that's when sex comes up and it becomes sleep with her or bust. It's just kind of odd. I also wouldn't pick the celibate option. I just think that some romances could actually make sense with one. Saving sex for later I mean. Tali's is one. Jack is certainly one. Sex with Jack is flat out creepy.

Jack creeps the hell out of me anyway, but her Paragon romance is just beautiful, in my opinion.


I don't think she is emotionally ready for sex yet, even paragon sex.  You don't realistically fix somebody that screwed up in like four conversations.  Jack is practically a child.  I wish there was some kind of "stay here with me tonight Jack.  I'm here for you." that didn't have to involve sex.

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Jack creeps the hell out of me anyway, but her Paragon romance is just beautiful, in my opinion.

Jack's paragon romance scene maybe, but the rest of the romance...oh god, that was not beautiful. In fact it made Shepard seem like an ugly person.

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1879/talidatapad.gif

Tali showing that's Tali + Shepard time. Datapad can wait.

Enough with the datapad, Shep!  It's Tali time!

This is too funny.

Modifié par Collider, 16 septembre 2010 - 07:31 .


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The important part is they find a way to make it work. Together. As a team. A couple. Shepard states this very clearly if you make the right dialogue choices.

Gotta love that. Some more couple talk would be fantastic in ME3. Something to say that's official - they are a couple.


A mission where Tali and Shepard go back and forth like he did with Liara on during the Broker's missions would be AWESOME.

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I can see what you mean about trust, but Tali is actually the one who takes back what she said at first in the second conversation specifically because of the suit and her concern that she can't make Shep happy IE physically happy. And then he pretty much says he doesn't care about that. And then suddenly, that's when sex comes up and it becomes sleep with her or bust. It's just kind of odd. I also wouldn't pick the celibate option. I just think that some romances could actually make sense with one. Saving sex for later I mean. Tali's is one. Jack is certainly one. Sex with Jack is flat out creepy.


Well, he doesn't exactly say that he doesn't care about the physicall contact. More like that he will do whatever it takes.

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I can see what you mean about trust, but Tali is actually the one who takes back what she said at first in the second conversation specifically because of the suit and her concern that she can't make Shep happy IE physically happy. And then he pretty much says he doesn't care about that. And then suddenly, that's when sex comes up and it becomes sleep with her or bust. It's just kind of odd. I also wouldn't pick the celibate option. I just think that some romances could actually make sense with one. Saving sex for later I mean. Tali's is one. Jack is certainly one. Sex with Jack is flat out creepy.

Jack creeps the hell out of me anyway, but her Paragon romance is just beautiful, in my opinion.


I don't think she is emotionally ready for sex yet, even paragon sex.  You don't realistically fix somebody that screwed up in like four conversations.  Jack is practically a child.  I wish there was some kind of "stay here with me tonight Jack.  I'm here for you." that didn't have to involve sex.


You know, I personally like how that Paragon scene did NOT show them having sex.

It showed them cuddling.

That way, if you want, you can interpret it as they didn't have sex at all. They just held eachother.

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
I can see what you mean about trust, but Tali is actually the one who takes back what she said at first in the second conversation specifically because of the suit and her concern that she can't make Shep happy IE physically happy. And then he pretty much says he doesn't care about that. And then suddenly, that's when sex comes up and it becomes sleep with her or bust.

I should point out that Tali is the one who "wants it to be real."  This is not something Shep is imposing on her.  She's the one who's all "feel your skin against mine."

Who is Shep to argue with that?

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
I don't think she is emotionally ready for sex yet, even paragon sex.  You don't realistically fix somebody that screwed up in like four conversations.  Jack is practically a child.  I wish there was some kind of "stay here with me tonight Jack.  I'm here for you." that didn't have to involve sex.


My main problem with the romances is that they all seem to just move at a blistering pace. Making these characters admit their feelings for each other in a pretty unrealistic time-frame.

I can handwave it with Tali and Garrus by Shepard knowing them longer, or the whole "They've been on the mission for months"

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A mission where Tali and Shepard go back and forth like he did with Liara on during the Broker's missions would be AWESOME.


That is what I'm expecting at some point, now that Shepard is starting to have his own character.

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A mission where Tali and Shepard go back and forth like he did with Liara on during the Broker's missions would be AWESOME.


That is what I'm expecting at some point, now that Shepard is starting to have his own character.

What I want most from Tali's romance in ME3 is that they confide in each other. That would be awesome.

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I should point out that Tali is the one who "wants it to be real."  This is not something Shep is imposing on her.  She's the one who's all "feel your skin against mine."

Who is Shep to argue with that?

This is my stance on it. She made the process safe, she did the research. Shepard is in no place to deny her happiness.

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I should point out that Tali is the one who "wants it to be real."  This is not something Shep is imposing on her.  She's the one who's all "feel your skin against mine."

Who is Shep to argue with that?


Renegade and stupid.

But if he's looking for casual sex, then he's really barking up the wrong tree.

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RiptideX1090 wrote...

You know, I personally like how that Paragon scene did NOT show them having sex.

It showed them cuddling.

That way, if you want, you can interpret it as they didn't have sex at all. They just held eachother.

Honestly, this is how I feel, too.

We can always get intimate without resorting to sexual intercourse, but you never know. It's Jack after all.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

A mission where Tali and Shepard go back and forth like he did with Liara on during the Broker's missions would be AWESOME.


That is what I'm expecting at some point, now that Shepard is starting to have his own character.


Tali: *cough*

Shepard: You okay?

Tali: I'm fine! Just feeling a bit feverish!

Shepard: *Firing at a merc* I told you we should have used the stims last night! We knew we had a mission!

Tali: Dammit Shepard! Now is not the time!

Jack: Are you two serious!?