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[DoNotIngest]

Pshh. I'll deny, and when ME3 comes out, you'll all see! Not that it matters, but I'd bet my delayed-by-postage-strikes Tali t-shirt that she'll have something on her head.

[Evil_Sarevok]

Lets put it this way, if nobody likes what she looks like, the toggle helmet option is still there.

[DoNotIngest]

The only reason I'd toggle Tali's helmet back on after I saw her face is so she wouldn't get one of those damned allergic fevers...

[jacobOriley]

OK, no top pic, so....

Tali terminates with extreme prejudice....

[Evil_Sarevok]

You never know, she might devise a shielding system for her helmet so you can have a look in instead of it being a visor, who knows.

[DoNotIngest]

Evil_Sarevok wrote...

You never know, she might devise a shielding system for her helmet so you can have a look in instead of it being a visor, who knows.

Don't we already have glass that is polarized one way and clear another...?



Edit: Never mind, that isn't conveying the message, forget I said anything.

Modifié par DoNotIngest, 11 juin 2011 - 11:49 .

[jacobOriley]

DoNotIngest wrote...

Evil_Sarevok wrote...

You never know, she might devise a shielding system for her helmet so you can have a look in instead of it being a visor, who knows.

Don't we already have glass that is polarized one way and clear another...?.

Or activate a circuit in her omni-tool that changes the tint to clear?

Honestly, if they show Tali at some point, even/especially if she's your LI, total helmet removal please! Just the visor removal would be....a disappointment. IMO

[Weiser_Cain]

Just look at what joker is wearing to protect him from the vacuum of space...

[DoNotIngest]

jacobOriley wrote...

Honestly, if they show Tali at some point, even/especially if she's your LI, total helmet removal please! Just the visor removal would be....a disappointment. IMO

Tali fishbowl space helmet plz.

[ISpeakTheTruth]

We will never see her face.... we will never see any Quarians face if they didn't show it during the romance scene they'll never show it.

[DoNotIngest]

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

We will never see her face.... we will never see any Quarians face if they didn't show it during the romance scene they'll never show it.

Which is why they've stated they're working on the Quarians' facial design

[ISpeakTheTruth]

Don't fall for that comforting lie. The best we'll get is a brief glimps of one from the side.

We know from Wrex and Grunt that Quarians aren't 'soft' like humans so they're probably more turian than human and that would upset people.

[jacobOriley]

DoNotIngest wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

We will never see her face.... we will never see any Quarians face if they didn't show it during the romance scene they'll never show it.

Which is why they've stated they're working on the Quarians' facial design

Precisely! (It's all a conspiracy and a lie...ssh, don't tell anyone...just close the thread quietly)

[MadCat221]

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

Don't fall for that comforting lie. The best we'll get is a brief glimps of one from the side.

We know from Wrex and Grunt that Quarians aren't 'soft' like humans so they're probably more turian than human and that would upset people.

That may have also factored in their hardsuits, though.  How often do others see quarians outside their hardsuits?  The suits are practically an organ of their bodies.

[jacobOriley]

Edit:delete

Modifié par jacobOriley, 12 juin 2011 - 02:01 .

[Runescapeguy9]

MadCat221 wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

Don't fall for that comforting lie. The best we'll get is a brief glimps of one from the side.

We know from Wrex and Grunt that Quarians aren't 'soft' like humans so they're probably more turian than human and that would upset people.

That may have also factored in their hardsuits, though.  How often do others see quarians outside their hardsuits?  The suits are practically an organ of their bodies.

this is my theory. grunt was talking about how hard it would be to stab something. suits are made to be durable. turians wear hard armour all the time and most humans walk around in FUTURE-tshirts and jeans

[ISpeakTheTruth]

The reason I dismiss that defense is the suit isn't shown to be particularly strong its cloth looking and made out of second hand materials like everything else the suit wouldn't make the Quarians not 'soft'.

Besides Wrex and Okeer's imprints come from experience before they started wearing the suits and both sources are talking strictly about their physiology. Grunt talks aobut how he can sever the spine of a human but doesn't talk about if the human has armor or not because he's just talking about the body by itself. He says Humans, Asari, and Salarians are all soft, then says that Turians and Quarians are less soft.

That there tells you that Quarian skin is more akin to Turian than human.

@Runescapeguy9 how does the Quarian armor look any tougher than wnat anyone else wears casually? Its 90% cloth and some metal around the head and lower legs. Also remember that everything Quarian is second hand so its not even made out of the best materials. To a Krogan that can lift a steel wall I doubt he'd notic a difference between Quarian cloth like suit and a humans outfit.

Modifié par ISpeakTheTruth, 12 juin 2011 - 02:13 .

[Runescapeguy9]

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...
@Runescapeguy9 how does the Quarian armor look any tougher than wnat anyone else wears casually? Its 90% cloth and some metal around the head and lower legs. Also remember that everything Quarian is second hand so its not even made out of the best materials. To a Krogan that can lift a steel wall I doubt he'd notic a difference between Quarian cloth like suit and a humans outfit.

the suits are airtight and can section off at a moments notice. the material is not 90% cloth, you will notice that the cloth is just tacked on top for aesthetic appeal. it was designed to be flexible and puncture resistant. this would give it a very durable nature.

[Homebound]

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

The reason I dismiss that defense is the suit isn't shown to be particularly strong its cloth looking and made out of second hand materials like everything else the suit wouldn't make the Quarians not 'soft'.

Besides Wrex and Okeer's imprints come from experience before they started wearing the suits and both sources are talking strictly about their physiology. Grunt talks aobut how he can sever the spine of a human but doesn't talk about if the human has armor or not because he's just talking about the body by itself. He says Humans, Asari, and Salarians are all soft, then says that Turians and Quarians are less soft.

That there tells you that Quarian skin is more akin to Turian than human.

@Runescapeguy9 how does the Quarian armor look any tougher than wnat anyone else wears casually? Its 90% cloth and some metal around the head and lower legs. Also remember that everything Quarian is second hand so its not even made out of the best materials. To a Krogan that can lift a steel wall I doubt he'd notic a difference between Quarian cloth like suit and a humans outfit.

Miranda wears a leather onepiece and THIS is what gets to you?

[Evil_Sarevok]

They've already pretty much said they are humanoid, and considering Bioware's track record of calling something Humanoid for TOR (which rules out a wookie), that probably wouldnt make them have a shell carapace sort of thing which is what Turian always look like to me, though to be fair we dont see enough of a Turian to really make a proper judgement... that or I could probably just ask Tasha, she'd know how a Turian uh, feels.  I guess I'd sway more towards Quarians having a squishy skin.

Additionally I think a Krogan might have a little trouble fitting into a Human or Quarian "cloth" suit in the first place, unless he wanted to go caveman style.. yes I obviously knew what you meant but I cant not say it.

Though that was the general reason for Tali's former shield tanking abilities, that Bioware oversighted in ME2, and made it feel more like health/shield was the same as everyone else, still I suspect time will tell.

And for the love of god dont start up the carapace insectoid debate again, its already been destroyed utterly.

Modifié par Evil_Sarevok, 12 juin 2011 - 02:39 .

[ISpeakTheTruth]

I said casual...nothing about Miranda's outfit is casual lol.

I'm still solid on the side of their descriptions being of their true physiology rather than what they wear. If what they wear determines the imprint knowledge and Wrex's opinion than their opinions/imprints would have to be subject to each indivivdual basis. Because there are plenty of humans, Asari, and Salarians who wear armor so you'd have to say that everyone that wears any kind of armor is not soft.

That kind of general statment seems really strange. 'Oh yeah humans/Asari/Salarians are all soft... unless they're warrirors with armor... which is who I fight 100% of the time."

[jacobOriley]

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

The reason I dismiss that defense is the suit isn't shown to be particularly strong its cloth looking and made out of second hand materials like everything else the suit wouldn't make the Quarians not 'soft'.

Besides Wrex and Okeer's imprints come from experience before they started wearing the suits and both sources are talking strictly about their physiology. Grunt talks aobut how he can sever the spine of a human but doesn't talk about if the human has armor or not because he's just talking about the body by itself. He says Humans, Asari, and Salarians are all soft, then says that Turians and Quarians are less soft.

That there tells you that Quarian skin is more akin to Turian than human.

There is a conversation in game somewhere(or maybe a writing somewhere), with an asari who remember's what quarian's looked like without suits, that mentions when humans came on the scene, many thought they were just a larger related version of the quarian's. Those aren't the exact words, but close enough, and I can't find the reference. That doesn't fit with your turian skin/look alike theory, or the theory that that's why it would tick people off to see the quarian reveal.

Personally, and there are many who think the same, it doesn't really matter what Tali or the quarian's actually look like. I happen to trust the bioware artist's to present something new/interesting/shocking, whatever.

It also fairly evident in the Ascension novel that there's more similarities between human's and quarian's than you seem to think. I know several people that would not like that to be the case. The only true resolution to the discussion is a reveal by the bioware artist's, so to each their own.

[Collider]

Thane fits all of the known attributes of the quarian appearance.

He does not look like a turian.
You might say, "but his body isn't tough enough" It is, actually, due to the greater muscle density that the drell have. There you go.

[ISpeakTheTruth]

Evil_Sarevok The Turians and Yahg for that matter are concidered humanoid...

The reason why I don't want the Quarians to look human is because it would be pathetic. We already have on alien specie that looks too human (Asari) we don't need another one to be a purple skinned Star Trek ripoff.

We know that the Quarian homeworld is more arid than Earth so from an evolutionary stand point their skin would have to be tougher in response to that. Think of a desert animal how many of them are soft skinned? None, they are all hard skined lizards, or snakes that have scales that keep in water which is needed in an arid environment soft skin in an arid environment doesn't work you'd dry out and die.

@ Collider Come on now... we both know that appearance wise the Turians fit the Quarians the best. The crazy legs, the three fingers and toes, both sharing the dextro thing.  However before the Drell were revealed I always pictured the Quarians being a type of amphibian creature perhaps more of a reptile appearance to be comfortable in an arid environment.

Modifié par ISpeakTheTruth, 12 juin 2011 - 02:58 .

[Evil_Sarevok]

That wasnt the point I was making, if Bioware called it Humanoid, then that sence is either/or if you follow TOR interviews on what they deem is humanoid, since they didnt see a wookie as such. "Humanoid" depends on who is calling it, personally I would call them as such too but, as I said.

Oh and if the muscle mass between the Drell and Quarians is similar, I'd have to say its all in the lower body i.e the legs, since the Drell are a bit scrawny lot but have alot tougher looking upper bodies, well bar Quarian males who are very broad I suppose.