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[T.Attwood]

Ah, that is what I was trying to do with the picture! Thanks for that @Jacob!

Do you remember how the discussion on that idea went?

Edit: Gasp, my first top!  If only I knew how to attach a picture! (Hint, Hint!)

Modifié par T.Attwood, 12 juin 2011 - 09:45 .

[Bearcut]

T.Attwood wrote...

Ah, that is what I was trying to do with the picture! Thanks for that @Jacob!

Do you remember how the discussion on that idea went?

Edit: Gasp, my first top!  If only I knew how to attach a picture! (Hint, Hint!)

Ok, i'm trying hard to tell you here.

Alright

Type img, within two brackets like [brackets]
then place the URL
then type /img, within brackets again, like [/brackets]
place%20url%20link%20here
Just as case, use these brackets ] [ ] [ ]

Please go through.

Edit: Sigh, I hope he can figure out my retarded post :

Modifié par Bearcut, 12 juin 2011 - 09:48 .

[jacobOriley]

T.Attwood wrote...

Ah, that is what I was trying to do with the picture! Thanks for that @Jacob!

Do you remember how the discussion on that idea went?

Edit: Gasp, my first top!  If only I knew how to attach a picture! (Hint, Hint!)

I sent you a pm on the picture thing and here's a top pic...



As far as "How the discussion went", it was the usual...like/dislike/hair/no hair/etc.

Only Tali's hairdresser and the bioware artist's know for sure.

[Bearcut]

Eh, I never liked Chiana's hair style... it looks almost like it never grows, or it always grows in one direction. It is unique though.

It's probably because I never liked her Character either.

I would imagine (and I'm not trying to stomp on anyones imagination here) that Quarians are soft-skinned (evolutionarily soft skins adapt to a wider range of environments quicker) with hair simply because we know they have eyes, and probably have brows to shield their eyes from the sun, so we might assume they have hair. We can also assume that the hair isn't cut on a regular basis, and it's probably bound up, or braided, or held back by something in the suit.

Thats just my opinion. Of course this might have to do that I hope she has hair. But really I'll be happy with anything Bioware feels like throwing at us. Their character designers have done good work, i'm sure they won't disappoint the masses.

[jacobOriley]

Bearcut wrote...
But really I'll be happy with anything Bioware feels like throwing at us. Their character designers have done good work, i'm sure they won't disappoint the masses.

Yep, I can live with that until I see different. These forums definitely don't equate to the masses, we're just a lot more vocal.

[Collider]

And if they do have hair, I hope it's not in the same style as humans. It's one thing for an alien to have hair, and another for a quarian to look like she's had a human hairdresser.

[FsDxRAGE]

Casey Hudson
by ME3News
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.@Mindsplinter @meshuggala Yes, in #ME3 you can set helmets to on / off, or on except for conversations.

Tali won't get this option 

[Collider]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

Casey Hudson
by ME3News
@
.@Mindsplinter @meshuggala Yes, in #ME3 you can set helmets to on / off, or on except for conversations.

Tali won't get this option 

Which is good, because it's not as if Tali would go around displaying her face to everyone. That's why I find the idea of bring Tali around with a clear-mask alternate apperance outfit so silly. It completely ignores the significance of a quarian (Tali specifically who seems to be more private about that than at least some other quarians) showing her face to someone.

[jacobOriley]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

Casey Hudson
by ME3News
@
.@Mindsplinter @meshuggala Yes, in #ME3 you can set helmets to on / off, or on except for conversations.

Tali won't get this option 

And I would hope not. I'd rather her let me remove the helmet and visor at a quiet moment.

[Evil_Sarevok]

Mind you, I thats like saying that nobody would have a problem with putting their head in a bucket of raw sewage with your mouth open, its probably going to do bad things for you, same with her taking her helmet off, while it might not be life threatening in every circumstance, you still wouldnt want to take the risk, would you?

And besides, the whole visor being un-clear is directly designed because they didnt create a face for Quarians... yet. Its all lazy design from the first games.

Modifié par Evil_Sarevok, 12 juin 2011 - 11:40 .

[Collider]

Evil_Sarevok wrote...

Mind you, I thats like saying that nobody would have a problem with putting their head in a bucket of raw sewage, its probably going to do bad things for you, same with her taking her helmet off, while it might not be life threatening in every circumstance, you still wouldnt want to take the risk, would you?

And besides, the whole visor being un-clear is directly designed because they didnt create a face for Quarians... yet. Its all lazy design from the first games.

Even if that was the original reason, right now, it's part of lore. Quarians are generally private about showing their face, in lore. And Tali shows that it's significant to her that she's showing it to Shepard.

[jacobOriley]

Collider wrote...

Evil_Sarevok wrote...

And besides, the whole visor being un-clear is directly designed because they didnt create a face for Quarians... yet. Its all lazy design from the first games.

Even if that was the original reason, right now, it's part of lore. Quarians are generally private about showing their face, in lore. And Tali shows that it's significant to her that she's showing it to Shepard.

It was even a big part of her father issues, wasn't it?

[Mathias]

I could never have sex with Tali. I mean can you imagine the bodily funk this woman gives off if she took off a suit she was wearing almost all her life?

[Evil_Sarevok]

Which then ponders the question, why they dont have some sort of switch or ability on their visors, to show their faces to their significant others, when they are in situations where they cant take their masks off in the first place, again, more than likely a design oversight.

As I highly doubt a colour tint in the future on a glass/similar surface is hard to replicate.

Modifié par Evil_Sarevok, 12 juin 2011 - 11:50 .

[Collider]

Evil_Sarevok wrote...

Which then ponders the question, why they dont have some sort of switch or ability on their visors, to show their faces to their significant others, when they are in situations where they cant take their masks off in the first place, again, more than likely a design oversight.

As I highly doubt a colour tint in the future on a glass/similar surface is hard to replicate.

How do we know that they don't have a switch?
The only person Tali feels comfortable showing her face to was Shepard, and you can't kiss with your mask on.

Modifié par Collider, 12 juin 2011 - 11:56 .

[Evil_Sarevok]

Hm, true, but then if I remember correctly, isnt Turian bodily fluid supposed to be a hazard to most other races? I'm guessing its either different for Quarians or very specific, since them having a long face-eating contest didnt seem to harm them at all.

Unless saliva doesnt cause issues, only "other" fluid, such as blood or, use your imagination.
(I can imagine this was discussed once but I cant remember seeing it ever)

Modifié par Evil_Sarevok, 12 juin 2011 - 11:56 .

[jacobOriley]

Collider wrote...

Evil_Sarevok wrote...

Which then ponders the question, why they dont have some sort of switch or ability on their visors, to show their faces to their significant others, when they are in situations where they cant take their masks off in the first place, again, more than likely a design oversight.

As I highly doubt a colour tint in the future on a glass/similar surface is hard to replicate.

How do you we know that they don't have a switch?
The only person Tali feels comfortable showing her face to was Shepard, and you can't kiss with your mask on.

That does seem like it would be awfully easy to do for an engineer.

[T.Attwood]

Evil_Sarevok wrote...

Which then ponders the question, why they dont have some sort of switch or ability on their visors, to show their faces to their significant others, when they are in situations where they cant take their masks off in the first place, again, more than likely a design oversight.

As I highly doubt a colour tint in the future on a glass/similar surface is hard to replicate.

That raises a good question. Is Tali's (or any quarians) mask 'tinted' glass, or something else? I did consider that the helmets were filled with the atmosphere of (perhaps) their home world, or some other gas that helps them breath, which is why we cannot see there faces. But that would cause a problem in the 'unmasking' scene in Shepards quarters in ME2 (i.e. when her face mask was removed, the aforementioned gas did not escape).

[Bearcut]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

I could never have sex with Tali. I mean can you imagine the bodily funk this woman gives off if she took off a suit she was wearing almost all her life?

Considering that body odor comes from bacteria that live on your skin... she probably doesn't smell too bad.

[jacobOriley]

T.Attwood wrote...
That raises a good question. Is Tali's (or any quarians) mask 'tinted' glass, or something else? I did consider that the helmets were filled with the atmosphere of (perhaps) their home world, or some other gas that helps them breath, which is why we cannot see there faces. But that would cause a problem in the 'unmasking' scene in Shepards quarters in ME2 (i.e. when her face mask was removed, the aforementioned gas did not escape).

Tali breathes the same air as humans, except it's specially filtered by her suit functions to keep out contaminants.

[Bearcut]

jacobOriley wrote...

T.Attwood wrote...
That raises a good question. Is Tali's (or any quarians) mask 'tinted' glass, or something else? I did consider that the helmets were filled with the atmosphere of (perhaps) their home world, or some other gas that helps them breath, which is why we cannot see there faces. But that would cause a problem in the 'unmasking' scene in Shepards quarters in ME2 (i.e. when her face mask was removed, the aforementioned gas did not escape).

Tali breathes the same air as humans, except it's specially filtered by her suit functions to keep out contaminants.

Biologically, oxygen makes sense. There are no highly developed (at least metabolically) life forms on the planet that don't use Oxygen in some major way in their celluar metabolism. Even though it would be possible to find an anaerobic alien, biochemically, anaerobic metabolism is only like 1/16th as efficient at producing energy as Aerobic metabolism.

So, lets assume Quarians use oxygen (if not in the exact same partial pressures as earth, but close enough that we can both breathe the same atmospheres.)

[jacobOriley]

Bearcut wrote...

Biologically, oxygen makes sense. There are no highly developed (at least metabolically) life forms on the planet that don't use Oxygen in some major way in their celluar metabolism. Even though it would be possible to find an anaerobic alien, biochemically, anaerobic metabolism is only like 1/16th as efficient at producing energy as Aerobic metabolism.

So, lets assume Quarians use oxygen (if not in the exact same partial pressures as earth, but close enough that we can both breathe the same atmospheres.)

That's a better way to put it.

[Bearcut]

What, you don't like my quick breakdown of the advantage of an Aerobic metabolism?

[jacobOriley]

Bearcut wrote...

What, you don't like my quick breakdown of the advantage of an Aerobic metabolism?

Actually I did, just don't know enough science to agree or challenge.

[Bearcut]

jacobOriley wrote...

Bearcut wrote...

What, you don't like my quick breakdown of the advantage of an Aerobic metabolism?

Actually I did, just don't know enough science to agree or challenge.

Eh, I have a major in Biochemistry, but if I had to go back and take the finals again, no way I would pass.

Anyway... this is my take on Quarians.

1) They are obviously Mammals. (Hello, breasteses!)
2) Because they are Mammals, it's pretty safe to assume they have a birth canal of some sort, and that this would be conducive to breeding with another Mammal.
3) If they are sterile inside the suit, don't really have to worry about smell too much do we?
4) We can assume that their planet is darker - there has to be a reason for dark faceplates and glowing eyes, and I assume it's because their natural environment either has very low light, or a very long night cycle, and they evolved such advanced night vision that their eyes glow. Plus, we don't even know if they see in the same spectrum as we do. So there. Thats my take on the Dark faceplate.
5) I can't think of a Mammal without teeth, so we can assume they got teeth.
6) We can see through the masks a relatively human face (Eyes, Nose, Mouth below the Nose)... so they aren't gonna be too crazy, at least not in the face department.
7) Hair is a really a give or take. What is the evolutionary purpose behind long hair? Come to think of it, why does the hair on a humans head continue to grow..... oh right, we don't shed. Much.
8) Another reason for the faceplate is privacy. In the cramped quarters of the flotilla, they don't exact get any "alone time." The suits have become a psychological barrier of sorts and being able to hide their face is another part of that. Several generations of this have led to a sort of reverse claustrophobia (i forget the other term)

Yeeah.