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[NuclearBuddha]

Shadow_broker wrote...
is it stated somewhere that the suits are actually bulltet proof?
I always thought quarians relied on shields

Because the first hit after she loses shields doesn't drop her.  If a suit was the only thing I wore, I'd want it to have some sort of armor.

Modifié par NuclearBuddha, 13 septembre 2010 - 10:11 .

[MS-06 Zaku II]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...
If a group of people were making a slave race they'd want to make the slaves similar to themselves so they can perform similar work with similar utensils and such.

That is, except for the outliers who have very specific duties. The general geth is probably a very good depiction of what a quarian looks like, and if BioWare decides to make the quarians mammals I will laugh at them.

You're uh... missing the point.  But anyway.

Doesn't the codex already say quarians are mammals?

Well, for Tali's sake, take the "Quarian's designing Geth" thing this way:

In Star Wars, the Trade Federation battle droids are designed after their Nemoidian masters when their bodies decay and shrivel up to their skelatal form, and the head of a skeleton of a dead Nemodian looks nothing like the head of a live one.

So in this case, the Geth could be based upon a more different concept of how they should be designed, perhaps they made the Geth to be like Quarians but they decided a worm-like head would be better for some reason, to instill fear perhaps in battle?

With all of that, Tali's facial details that one can see past her mask are very much like a human, the Asari have human-like faces, why can't the Quarians? Why can't Tali for that matter?

[Collider]

No race has hair but humans so far,

Doubt they gonna change the trend.

I am not an advocate for Quarians having hair. In fact I'd rather they didn't. But we can't rule it out, as it hasn't been confirmed either way.

[RiptideX1090]

Shavon wrote...

Lol, so much for intelligent debates. I should have known better.

Maybe if you actually stated something intelligent, we could have one.

You can't spout opinion as fact and expect anyone to take you seriously.

[Shadow_broker]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

XX55XX wrote...

Tali won't be a squadmate in ME3; I am certain of that much. If she lives, she will go back to help point her people in the right direction against the Reapers. We will get another romance scene to round out the franchise, hopefully.

Hopefully, she has more than one cameo. A half-dozen cameos in which we can interact with Tali would be nice, if BioWare doesn't want to bring her back as a squadmate.

If you honestly think Tali is going to be a cameo, you clearly have no understanding of how the industry works, why that would not be at ALL cost effective, and are overlooking the simple fact that it would damage their sales in the long run.

Would people really avoid mass effect 3 for the pure reason of tali not being a squady?
That's going too far, Its a game and Tali isn't the only character

[kraidy1117]

*watches*

[Mystranna Kelteel]

RiptideX1090 wrote...
If you honestly think Tali is going to be a cameo, you clearly have no understanding of how the industry works, why that would not be at ALL cost effective, and are overlooking the simple fact that it would damage their sales in the long run.

Sorry, but your opinion on how important Tali is to the fanbase is not a fact.

[Collider]

Shavon wrote...

Lol, so much for intelligent debates. I should have known better.

Try not stating your assumptions as fact. Otherwise, you are one to talk.

[RiptideX1090]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...
Yeah.

Because Tali REALLY looks like she has a flashlight head under that mask of hers.

What, with the nose and the two eyes and the cheeks and everything.

What you just argued would be the equivalent of me saying, "C-3PO does NOT look like a human! HE HAS FLASHLIGHT EYES OMG!!!"

I'm talking general shape and structure. And the male quarian helmet rather strongly implies an elongated cranium like a geth or a deep stalker.

A fair point.

[Aedan_Cousland]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Oh, man. Nightcrawler Tali four nostrils and all. It's like I'm really in the old thread.

Anyway, everyone's got their own idea. If anything, the reason I want to see her face is to collapse the quantum waveform down to a single reality, you know?

That isn't  the *only* good interpretation of Tali out there, but I do think it gets cool points for making her look like an alien. Most of the fan art makes her look like a human or some sort of space elf. Tali's species evolved from lifeforms not found on Earth, in an alien enviroment that was more arid than Earth. Her appearance should reflect that.

[XX55XX]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

XX55XX wrote...

Tali won't be a squadmate in ME3; I am certain of that much. If she lives, she will go back to help point her people in the right direction against the Reapers. We will get another romance scene to round out the franchise, hopefully.

Hopefully, she has more than one cameo. A half-dozen cameos in which we can interact with Tali would be nice, if BioWare doesn't want to bring her back as a squadmate.

If you honestly think Tali is going to be a cameo, you clearly have no understanding of how the industry works, why that would not be at ALL cost effective, and are overlooking the simple fact that it would damage their sales in the long run.

Then why did they give Wrex a cameo? One of the most popular characters in ME, given a cameo in the sequel? Oh that's right! He could be killed by the player in the first game.

Tali can be killed. I am not discounting the possibility that she might not return as a squadmate. It would be nice to see her come back, but seeing how BioWare has handled character death across games so far, I'm not crossing my fingers.

[Shadow_broker]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Shadow_broker wrote...
is it stated somewhere that the suits are actually bulltet proof?
I always thought quarians relied on shields

Because the first hit after she loses shields doesn't drop her.  If a suit was the only thing I wore, I'd want it to have some sort of armor.

Plenty of squadmates take hits after shields drop, Her enviorment suit dosen't look very strong like grunt or garrus armor. Looks like jumpsuits from ME1 with the quarian hood added onto it.

[Someone With Mass]

The question is: Why should BioWare remove a character they know is successful and that many people like her?

[NuclearBuddha]

Shavon wrote...
Lol, so much for intelligent debates. I should have known better.

What's unintelligent about this debate?  We're providing evidence.  Or did you just want blind agreement?

[Collider]

That isn't the *only* good interpretation of Tali out there, but I do think it gets cool points for making her look like an alien. Most of the fan art makes her look like a human or some sort of space elf. Tali's species evolved from lifeforms not found on Earth, in an alien enviroment that was more arid than Earth. Her appearance should reflect that.

I agree. I would not want a repeat of the Asari.

[Shadow_broker]

XX55XX wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

XX55XX wrote...

Tali won't be a squadmate in ME3; I am certain of that much. If she lives, she will go back to help point her people in the right direction against the Reapers. We will get another romance scene to round out the franchise, hopefully.

Hopefully, she has more than one cameo. A half-dozen cameos in which we can interact with Tali would be nice, if BioWare doesn't want to bring her back as a squadmate.

If you honestly think Tali is going to be a cameo, you clearly have no understanding of how the industry works, why that would not be at ALL cost effective, and are overlooking the simple fact that it would damage their sales in the long run.

Then why did they give Wrex a cameo? One of the most popular characters in ME, given a cameo in the sequel? Oh that's right! He could be killed by the player in the first game.

Tali can be killed. I am not discounting the possibility that she might not return as a squadmate. It would be nice to see her come back, but seeing how BioWare has handled character death across games so far, I'm not crossing my fingers.

Wrex
Best character in mass effect reduced to short cameo

[Wolf Warden]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...
If you honestly think Tali is going to be a cameo, you clearly have no understanding of how the industry works, why that would not be at ALL cost effective, and are overlooking the simple fact that it would damage their sales in the long run.

Sorry, but your opinion on how important Tali is to the fanbase is not a fact.

aw crap...here we go again.

[NuclearBuddha]

Shadow_broker wrote...
Plenty of squadmates take hits after shields drop, Her enviorment suit dosen't look very strong like grunt or garrus armor. Looks like jumpsuits from ME1 with the quarian hood added onto it.

It's the future.

If you like, I could cite Ascension, since it talks about how there are armored pads built in.

[Mystranna Kelteel]

Runescapeguy9 wrote...
Tali can do more for her people and the galaxy by Shepard's side than on some useless admiralty board. That and fans.

Tali doesn't really care about her people. She's willing to assist in breaking her society's most sacred laws and she doesn't even hesitate to say it.

In fact, she throws a tantrum if you don't help her commit treason. Yeah, she loves her people so much as to have no respect for their most sacred laws.

Well, actually, in that sense you are right. She can do the most for her people by staying far, far away from them.

[Collider]

Then why did they give Wrex a cameo? One of the most popular characters in ME, given a cameo in the sequel? Oh that's right! He could be killed by the player in the first game.



Tali can be killed. I am not discounting the possibility that she might not return as a squadmate. It would be nice to see her come back, but seeing how BioWare has handled character death across games so far, I'm not crossing my fingers.

It's one thing to say that it's not likely. It's another to say that it will not happen period. You did the latter.

[RiptideX1090]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...
If you honestly think Tali is going to be a cameo, you clearly have no understanding of how the industry works, why that would not be at ALL cost effective, and are overlooking the simple fact that it would damage their sales in the long run.

Sorry, but your opinion on how important Tali is to the fanbase is not a fact.

You're right.

What IS a fact, is that hiring new actors for a slew of new squadmates, as well as bringing back the old ones, is not cost effective. Not to mention that the entire point of 2 was setting up a squad and getting things in motion for 3. If they started over, from scratch, they'd have to introduce new squadmates, new backstories, on top of pulling EVERYTHING from the first two games together, while praying that taking out the characters fans have become so attached to doesn't hurt thier sales.

I'll be glad when 3 is out and we can put this arguement to rest.

[Barquiel]

Shadow_broker wrote...

Would people really avoid mass effect 3 for the pure reason of tali not being a squady?
That's going too far, Its a game and Tali isn't the only character

People will still buy it. I doubt there are many Liara/Wrex/Ashley/Kaidan fans who boycott ME2...I know of no one!