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[FsDxRAGE]

phonypapercut wrote...

Nilfalasiel wrote...

That depends on whether quarians had the whole "nar/vas" system before they were forced to live on ships, and they used it to designate the city they came from or the planet they lived on. If they did, it's possible. But if they didn't, and it's just a commodity they created for living on the Fleet, then probably not.

Something in LotSB made reference to a quarian with the name vas Rannoch. Forget where it was though.

I remember this, but also forgot where it was. It made me feel all tingly
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Modifié par FsDxRAGE, 19 septembre 2010 - 02:07 .

[Volrath937]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Well, rebuilding takes time. I don't think the quarians were under any delusions to the contrary. And ruins or not I think they would take a fierce pride in being back. I mean it's not like we think less of the Coliseum or the Pyramids because they are old run-down buildings that are now useless or that the cultures who built them are gone. We still look at them as monuments to human history and innovation. There is something kind of sad about them, but there is still pride and wonder there as well.

That's a good point, only Shepard knows that the geth are working on Rannoch. I get the vibe the quarians plans don't really extend beyond "Take back the homeworld!" As for the Coliseum and the pyramids, that depends on who you ask, but the popular sentiment is probably what you say. It's really sad, they had a multi-planet empire reduced to almost nothing because the people in charge of the geth screwed up. And of course we don't know how bad the war damaged the planet, it could've been rubble when they left for all we know.

[camoboy_19]

Volrath937 wrote...

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Well, rebuilding takes time. I don't think the quarians were under any delusions to the contrary. And ruins or not I think they would take a fierce pride in being back. I mean it's not like we think less of the Coliseum or the Pyramids because they are old run-down buildings that are now useless or that the cultures who built them are gone. We still look at them as monuments to human history and innovation. There is something kind of sad about them, but there is still pride and wonder there as well.

That's a good point, only Shepard knows that the geth are working on Rannoch. I get the vibe the quarians plans don't really extend beyond "Take back the homeworld!" As for the Coliseum and the pyramids, that depends on who you ask, but the popular sentiment is probably what you say. It's really sad, they had a multi-planet empire reduced to almost nothing because the people in charge of the geth screwed up. And of course we don't know how bad the war damaged the planet, it could've been rubble when they left for all we know.

Speaking of Rannoch, Do you think the true geth (not heretics) would welcome back Quarians because of something Shepard does? I'd rather it be solved peacefully, since Legion and Tali are favorites of mine. Plus, it'd be really sad if they destroyed it over a war. And Stupid, like Admiral Xen, the Quarian who wants to control the geth... she... must.. .DIE 

[camoboy_19]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

And just the prospect of having a planet again and being able to ditch the suits is probably going to more than make up for piles of rubble I would think.

Until Shepard Sneezes.

[Volrath937]

Tali does say that they would have to cannibalize their ships for building materials, so they are likely expecting to start from scratch.

[camoboy_19]

Volrath937 wrote...

Tali does say that they would have to cannibalize their ships for building materials, so they are likely expecting to start from scratch.

How do you eat a ship?

[Volrath937]

camoboy_19 wrote...

Volrath937 wrote...

Tali does say that they would have to cannibalize their ships for building materials, so they are likely expecting to start from scratch.

How do you eat a ship?

Use a strong enough acid to dissolve it, then neutralize it with an equally strong base, consume. 

Tali says "cannibalize", I'm just rolling with it. The ships are the only things the quarians have left anyways.

[Pacifien]

You know, sometimes I wonder if Tali would live on Rannoch if the quarians got it back. I actually think a good percentage of them wouldn't be able to make the adjustment, a culture shock of sorts. Tali loves engines, she loves working on the Normandy. While feeling the breeze on her face, getting to walk through the fields of her people's homeworld, might truly feel good, her life has been space, ships, space stations. Every foray onto a planet has been brief, and she's gone before any of it turns familiar.

I guess I was thinking of the fisherman of Ha Long Bay in Vietnam. They're born on their ships, make a living on their ships, and they'll die on their ships. Mainland is always in view, but they never go there, never live there. Life on the boats is their entire world.

And I get the impression that those who wish to live a life free of the envirosuits would actually have to remain the rest of their lives on Rannoch as their immune systems make the adjustment. It might be a few generations before their descendents can wander the stars as their ancestors did.

So anyway, if Tali did spend any time on Rannoch, I'm guessing it would be brief. She'd be ecstatic about it, but her home is actually in space.

[Pacifien]

Well, I've always held the position that she and many quarian people yearn for Rannoch because it has become a symbol for a desired way of life. But dreams change in reality. She could always take pride in that her people have returned, but there's always that twinge of sadness that I place on such circumstances. Her struggle was for her people, but her own life takes her elsewhere.

[Water Dumple]

Pacifien wrote...

Well, I've always held the position that she and many quarian people yearn for Rannoch because it has become a symbol for a desired way of life. But dreams change in reality. She could always take pride in that her people have returned, but there's always that twinge of sadness that I place on such circumstances. Her struggle was for her people, but her own life takes her elsewhere.

Conversations with the Legion imply that some Quarians seem to want the Homeworld blindly, just because it used to be theirs--this line is particularly revealing: "Once they called it 'Rannoch' - Ancient Khelish meaning 'walled garden'. Now they only call it 'homeworld'. It is no longer real to them".

Obviously having the Homeworld back would benefit the Quarians greatly and could ensure that they don't go extinct, but it sounds like some of them have the wrong motivations, envisioning the planet as more of a symbol than a future.

[nickFury]

Runescapeguy9 wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

Well, I've always held the position that she and many quarian people yearn for Rannoch because it has become a symbol for a desired way of life. But dreams change in reality. She could always take pride in that her people have returned, but there's always that twinge of sadness that I place on such circumstances. Her struggle was for her people, but her own life takes her elsewhere.

If she's with Shep, I think Tali would go wherever he is.

I suppose both of these are related. I hope to Keelah we get the option to remain on Rannoch or at least the game ends with a cutscene there. Shepard can't be badass for all eternity, unless he joins the reapers as mush and assumes direct control. I think living out a life on Rannoch in a house converted out of the Normandy is a good compromise

You kidding we are not gona strip down the normandy!
Build the hous out of natural materials available on Rannoch and leave EDI's body alone.

On another note I just got this Daaawwful mental image of the Normandy/EDI interacting with quarian children and them calling her aunti EDI

[Pacifien]

I wonder if the quarians had the Pilgrimage before going into exile. The Codex mentions it as a means to maintain genetic diversity on the ships, though.

[BarrelDrago]

Tali your are back i missed you!



btw think Tali will have the opportunity of kicking a volus ass in mass effect 3?

anyway i dont see the nessesity of having the pelrinage, unless what they would actuly explore were other city in the pursue of knowledge. To prouve to your famely that you can live on your own? something similar of quitting the familial home.

Modifié par BarrelDrago, 19 septembre 2010 - 03:49 .