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[AventuroLegendary]

camoboy_19 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Quarian serial killer on Omega? Wow. Someone must've really lost their marbles.

I dont remember running into a quarian serial killer ever. dont know who Golo is either. Can someone clarify them?

The serial killer was probably in one of Garrus' vigilante stories while golo was the quarian that defected to either Cerberus or the collectors in Ascension.

[Water Dumple]

They're probably from the novels.

[Volrath937]

Water Dumple wrote...

Their population is too thin and fragile for them to go into mercenary groups and try to be badass. At least, they're actually putting more effort toward saving themselves than the Krogan, who seem to have given up survival in favor of fighting for one more day until an inglorious death.

I'm definitely going to work for peace/compromise in ME3 between Quarians and Geth. Neither race would be remotely as interesting without the other.

The problem with peace is that it allows the geth to carry on as they are. A peace deal would need to ensure some sort of military protection from Citadel races for the quarians. Tali says herself that the Flotilla would be used  as parts for rebuilding cities/homes/etc. The quarians would also need to get an economy going again, meaning ships would need to be sent as trading vessels. With such a diminished population, and fewer ships capable of protection especially after losses they'll take in Reaper War, Rannoch is going to be fairly vulnerable. With Rannoch being in geth territory, and geth have shown they are able to splinter off into organic-hating factions, it'd be risky to settle for just peace. 

[Mobius_118]

camoboy_19 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Quarian serial killer on Omega? Wow. Someone must've really lost their marbles.

I dont remember running into a quarian serial killer ever. dont know who Golo is either. Can someone clarify them?

Golo was in the Ascension Novel.

The quarian serial killer is in Garrus's notable kills dossier in LotSB.

[Someone With Mass]

camoboy_19 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Quarian serial killer on Omega? Wow. Someone must've really lost their marbles.

I dont remember running into a quarian serial killer ever. dont know who Golo is either. Can someone clarify them?

Golo was a quarian who helped Cerberus infiltrate the fleet, kill dozens of quarians in the process, and before that he tried to sell two dozen of them to the Collectors. And then he was exiled and sent to Omega.

[camoboy_19]

Volrath937 wrote...

Water Dumple wrote...

Their population is too thin and fragile for them to go into mercenary groups and try to be badass. At least, they're actually putting more effort toward saving themselves than the Krogan, who seem to have given up survival in favor of fighting for one more day until an inglorious death.

I'm definitely going to work for peace/compromise in ME3 between Quarians and Geth. Neither race would be remotely as interesting without the other.

The problem with peace is that it allows the geth to carry on as they are. A peace deal would need to ensure some sort of military protection from Citadel races for the quarians. Tali says herself that the Flotilla would be used  as parts for rebuilding cities/homes/etc. The quarians would also need to get an economy going again, meaning ships would need to be sent as trading vessels. With such a diminished population, and fewer ships capable of protection especially after losses they'll take in Reaper War, Rannoch is going to be fairly vulnerable. With Rannoch being in geth territory, and geth have shown they are able to splinter off into organic-hating factions, it'd be risky to settle for just peace. 

I was thinking of Legion's Geth allying with the Quarians.

[Someone With Mass]

Zel'Aenik nar Helash (viral specialist, serial killer)
-Cough

Is it bad that I laughed when I read this?

[AventuroLegendary]

Someone With Mass wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Quarian serial killer on Omega? Wow. Someone must've really lost their marbles.

I dont remember running into a quarian serial killer ever. dont know who Golo is either. Can someone clarify them?

Golo was a quarian who helped Cerberus infiltrate the fleet, kill dozens of quarians in the process, and before that he tried to sell two dozen of them to the Collectors. And then he was exiled and sent to Omega.

Good riddance.

[camoboy_19]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Zel'Aenik nar Helash (viral specialist, serial killer)
-Cough

Is it bad that I laughed when I read this?
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Oohh Bioware, you know exactly where to plant the Irony

[Volrath937]

camoboy_19 wrote...
 I was thinking of Legion's Geth allying with the Quarians.

Legion's geth are the same geth that became the Heretics. Or something, the geth aren't explained very clearly. I just know risking Tali and her people because peace is the morally upright thing to do is conflicting. 

[camoboy_19]

Volrath937 wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...
 I was thinking of Legion's Geth allying with the Quarians.

Legion's geth are the same geth that became the Heretics. Or something, the geth aren't explained very clearly. I just know risking Tali and her people because peace is the morally upright thing to do is conflicting. 

I dont think theyre all the same. Theres 2 groups, Geth and Heretics, and you shoulda taken care of the Heretics

[Someone With Mass]

Did I mention that Golo got shot in the back of the head at point blank range?

[Water Dumple]

Volrath937 wrote...

Water Dumple wrote...

Their population is too thin and fragile for them to go into mercenary groups and try to be badass. At least, they're actually putting more effort toward saving themselves than the Krogan, who seem to have given up survival in favor of fighting for one more day until an inglorious death.

I'm definitely going to work for peace/compromise in ME3 between Quarians and Geth. Neither race would be remotely as interesting without the other.

The problem with peace is that it allows the geth to carry on as they are. A peace deal would need to ensure some sort of military protection from Citadel races for the quarians. Tali says herself that the Flotilla would be used  as parts for rebuilding cities/homes/etc. The quarians would also need to get an economy going again, meaning ships would need to be sent as trading vessels. With such a diminished population, and fewer ships capable of protection especially after losses they'll take in Reaper War, Rannoch is going to be fairly vulnerable. With Rannoch being in geth territory, and geth have shown they are able to splinter off into organic-hating factions, it'd be risky to settle for just peace. 

The Geth are just as capable of deciding to attack as normal organics. In fact, it's actually more difficult for them to decide that, because they have to get a majority of processes to decide they should do so. An organic just has to snap on emotions or, in the case of authority, make a governmental mistake. The Quarians attacked the Geth in the first place, so they have a damn good reason to be cautious.

So long as the Quarians don't use the Geth as slaves if they don't want that, peace for both sides is viable.

[AventuroLegendary]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Did I mention that Golo got shot in the back of the head at point blank range?

By whom?

[camoboy_19]

Water Dumple wrote...

Volrath937 wrote...

Water Dumple wrote...

Their population is too thin and fragile for them to go into mercenary groups and try to be badass. At least, they're actually putting more effort toward saving themselves than the Krogan, who seem to have given up survival in favor of fighting for one more day until an inglorious death.

I'm definitely going to work for peace/compromise in ME3 between Quarians and Geth. Neither race would be remotely as interesting without the other.

The problem with peace is that it allows the geth to carry on as they are. A peace deal would need to ensure some sort of military protection from Citadel races for the quarians. Tali says herself that the Flotilla would be used  as parts for rebuilding cities/homes/etc. The quarians would also need to get an economy going again, meaning ships would need to be sent as trading vessels. With such a diminished population, and fewer ships capable of protection especially after losses they'll take in Reaper War, Rannoch is going to be fairly vulnerable. With Rannoch being in geth territory, and geth have shown they are able to splinter off into organic-hating factions, it'd be risky to settle for just peace. 

The Geth are just as capable of deciding to attack as normal organics. In fact, it's actually more difficult for them to decide that, because they have to get a majority of processes to decide they should do so. An organic just has to snap on emotions or, in the case of authority, make a governmental mistake. The Quarians attacked the Geth in the first place, so they have a damn good reason to be cautious.

So long as the Quarians don't use the Geth as slaves if they don't want that, peace for both sides is viable.

I think Leigon made it clear that his geth want to live alongside their Creators

[Someone With Mass]

LegendaryAvenger wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Did I mention that Golo got shot in the back of the head at point blank range?

By whom?

Grayson.

[Someone With Mass]

mrsph wrote...

I think Tali is smart enough to realize that Xen's plan is basically just history repeating itself.

Legion pretty much figures that one out if you take him to the fleet, so it shouldn't be too difficult for Tali.

[AventuroLegendary]

Someone With Mass wrote...

LegendaryAvenger wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Did I mention that Golo got shot in the back of the head at point blank range?

By whom?

Grayson.

Gillian Grayson?

[Volrath937]

Water Dumple wrote...
The Geth are just as capable of deciding to attack as normal organics. In fact, it's actually more difficult for them to decide that, because they have to get a majority of processes to decide they should do so. An organic just has to snap on emotions or, in the case of authority, make a governmental mistake. The Quarians attacked the Geth in the first place, so they have a damn good reason to be cautious.

So long as the Quarians don't use the Geth as slaves if they don't want that, peace for both sides is viable.

The Heretic geth are 5% of the geth runtimes, they clearly didn't reach a majority. Organics are individuals, they can make choices. If Tali was told by Shepard to shoot unarmed civilians, she wouldn't do it, she has that choice. If the geth come to an actual majority consensus to attack organics, every geth would join the attack. We were lucky in that the Heretics didn't have a consensus. The quarians had every right to attack, their machine servants, who were likely integrated into every part of quarian society, could on the verge of a violent revolution. Why the quarians didn't have safeguards is a mystery. 

I think Tali is smart enough to realize that Xen's plan is basically just history repeating itself.

I think the last part of Xen's plan is what she disagrees with, the "using the geth as an army." Bringing the geth under control isn't insane, she doesn't seem to think her father was.

Modifié par Volrath937, 19 septembre 2010 - 06:58 .

[nickFury]

Volrath937 wrote...

nickFury wrote...
Oh I agree I was just surprised that so many people seemed to have sex toy be the first thing they think of. Like in my mind say Tali is touch ing a rough wall or a tree or something with her glove, with out the stimulators she would feel some presse maybey a few bumps where there are surface protrusions. With them on she would feel a whole lot more like the actual texture of the surface the scraping sensation as she drags her hand along it. Bassicly it would be a rough interpretation of what it would feel like with out the suit.

The context in which we first hear of the things makes it kind of...less than ambiguous. A way of allowing Tali to "feel" a simulation of whatever her suit is touching would be an incredible feat of programming. Sensors would need to essentially cover the entire suit, the program itself would need to be able to tap into her nervous system to recreate the feel, and  the algorithms that interpret the sensor data would just be...mind-boggling to write. If such a thing existed, my Shepard would hunt to the ends of the galaxy to get it for her though.

If any race in the ME univers could do it it would be the quarians, but like I said I thought it would be only a rough aproximation of direct skin exposure as for the taping into the nervous system we already know that quarians have atleast some cybernetic modification wouldnt be too far fetched to think that these  might be upgradeable to various degrees and likely already link to the suits systems.

[Someone With Mass]

LegendaryAvenger wrote...
Gillian Grayson?

Her dad.

[camoboy_19]

Volrath937 wrote...

Water Dumple wrote...
The Geth are just as capable of deciding to attack as normal organics. In fact, it's actually more difficult for them to decide that, because they have to get a majority of processes to decide they should do so. An organic just has to snap on emotions or, in the case of authority, make a governmental mistake. The Quarians attacked the Geth in the first place, so they have a damn good reason to be cautious.

So long as the Quarians don't use the Geth as slaves if they don't want that, peace for both sides is viable.

The Heretic geth are 5% of the geth runtimes, they clearly didn't reach a majority. Organics are individuals, they can make choices. If Tali was told by Shepard to shoot unarmed civilians, she wouldn't do it, she has that choice. If the geth come to an actual majority consensus to attack organics, every geth would join the attack. We were lucky in that the Heretics didn't have a consensus. The quarians had every right to attack, their machine servants, who were likely integrated into every part of quarian society, could on the verge of a violent revolution. Why the quarians didn't have safeguards is a mystery. 

Well, you abuse the Geth as nothing but slaves for so long, and had put in AI, they are bound to catch on. Self-fulfilling prophecy