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[Volrath937]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

So I was thinking, on Earth, humans from different regions look different that others (Europeans to Africans) On Rannoch, I wonder if the same thing occurs and what "race" Tali would be considered

Depends on a couple things, how big Rannoch is, how intermingled the quarian population is, etc. Since it's stated somewhere that humans are the most genetically diverse sapient race, it's a fair guess to say quarians are probably more similar to each other than humans. But Tali is still better than all of them.

[timedrake32]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Tali is a space-gypsy.

 now thats just not nice at all.....
how can see be compair to a gypsy anyways?

[NuclearBuddha]

I'd think that however the quarians subdivided themselves before exile, they're well-blended now. Each quarian has to join a different ship upon adulthood, so even if the ships are divided somehow along racial/national/cultural lines, there's a constant influx of new blood.



That said, they do seem to be the race with a variety of accents. It could be that some ships do have a predominant cultural background from Rannoch and thus the accent (which gets set into speech patterns before adolescence) persists.



Alternatively, perhaps the creche/school ships are where the accents get set in.

[NuclearBuddha]

Also: Ascension notes that quarians are all very similar in height/build due to the small breeding population.

[FsDxRAGE]

timedrake32 wrote...

FsDxRAGE wrote...

So I was thinking, on Earth, humans from different regions look different that others (Europeans to Africans) On Rannoch, I wonder if the same thing occurs and what "race" Tali would be considered

it's likly just look a turians with the marking on their faces and diffrent skin pigment.... weel have no idea intell bioware shows us some quarrions with out their maskes on

They need to make a preexil game
also, good to see you here timedrake, has been a LONG time :happy:

[FsDxRAGE]

mrsph wrote...

Those with three toes.

Those without three toes.

I love those three toes...

[Volrath937]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Also: Ascension notes that quarians are all very similar in height/build due to the small breeding population.

It's only been 300 years, given the dangers of pregnancy for a quarian getting progressively worse as time went on, how many generations could they have possibly gone through? If quarians have roughly the same life span as a human, a quarian born during the time of the Morning War could still have a living grandson.

[timedrake32]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

timedrake32 wrote...

FsDxRAGE wrote...

So I was thinking, on Earth, humans from different regions look different that others (Europeans to Africans) On Rannoch, I wonder if the same thing occurs and what "race" Tali would be considered

it's likly just look a turians with the marking on their faces and diffrent skin pigment.... weel have no idea intell bioware shows us some quarrions with out their maskes on

They need to make a preexil game
also, good to see you here timedrake, has been a LONG time :happy:

HA a pre-exil game!
that would be cool and it nice to be back. thanks rage

[NuclearBuddha]

Volrath937 wrote...
It's only been 300 years, given the dangers of pregnancy for a quarian getting progressively worse as time went on, how many generations could they have possibly gone through? If quarians have roughly the same life span as a human, a quarian born during the time of the Morning War could still have a living grandson.

Hey, just repeating the book.  I realize the time scale isn't great.

But actually, the thing about generations is that they don't exactly conform to life span.  Assuming quarians have a similar span/maturity rate as humans (the maturity rate is easy to assume, since their adulthood rite seems to fit) then we make a jump and assume that they'll have their one kid somewhere in the age 30 range.  Thus a generation is around 30 years.  So 10 generations.

[NuclearBuddha]

mrsph wrote...
You know what has never made sense plotwise?

The timeline for Tali's pilgrimage before she met Shepard on the citadel.

How so?

She says something to the effect that she'd only been off the Flotilla a month.  During that month she snags a geth memory core that reveals Saren is working with them.  Then she makes it to the Citadel, where Shep meets her.

I forget:  does the data she delivers specifically have to come after Eden Prime?

If so, then we just have to assume there's passage of time on Shep's end that we don't see.  Then again, ships in ME move at the speed of plot.

[Someone With Mass]

mrsph wrote...

You know what has never made sense plotwise?

The timeline for Tali's pilgrimage before she met Shepard on the citadel.

Why's that?

A lot can happen in a month or two.

[Someone With Mass]

I wonder how many accents the quarians have.

[Volrath937]

mrsph wrote...

Saren specifically mentions Eden Prime on the evidence.

A geth platform heard Saren talking, it shared the audio file with the rest of the network. For whatever reason, the geth Tali disabled had a local copy of that audio file (No idea why), she gets the data and heads to the Citadel. She contacts the Shadow Broker, yada yada yada, Shepard shows up.

[Volrath937]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Hey, just repeating the book.  I realize the time scale isn't great.

But actually, the thing about generations is that they don't exactly conform to life span.  Assuming quarians have a similar span/maturity rate as humans (the maturity rate is easy to assume, since their adulthood rite seems to fit) then we make a jump and assume that they'll have their one kid somewhere in the age 30 range.  Thus a generation is around 30 years.  So 10 generations.

I still gotta dig that book out of my pile of sci-fi.
Thinking about it, it would make sense for a quarian to have a child fairly young, while their immune system is still relatively strong. Plus, ya know, with the tendency for quarians to have horrible Pilgrimages, a quarians bloodline isn't completely dependent on the first kid.

[Someone With Mass]

mrsph wrote...

Saren specifically mentions Eden Prime on the evidence.

I assume Tali was injured short after or at the same time she got the data, so she went to the Citadel, and on the way there, she arranged a meeting with the Shadow Broker.

And Shep was unconscious for what, fifteen hours? And when he woke up, they were about to dock with the Citadel. Plenty of time for Tali to get there as well.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 20 septembre 2010 - 04:06 .

[Nilfalasiel]

Volrath937 wrote...

FsDxRAGE wrote...

So I was thinking, on Earth, humans from different regions look different that others (Europeans to Africans) On Rannoch, I wonder if the same thing occurs and what "race" Tali would be considered

Depends on a couple things, how big Rannoch is, how intermingled the quarian population is, etc. Since it's stated somewhere that humans are the most genetically diverse sapient race, it's a fair guess to say quarians are probably more similar to each other than humans.

This. Mordin specifically says that humans are more diverse than any other sapient race, so I'm guessing quarians won't look as different from each other as humans do. Also, depending on how advanced their civilization was before the geth war, the genetic intermingling on any quarian planet may have been greater than on Earth. Earth seems to have a global government by the time of ME, meaning that countries seem to be less and less relevant. I'd think that would contribute to genetic intermingling. And since humans seem to be the "youngest" race around, If quarians had gone through that same evolution for any length of time prior to the geth war, it may have contributed to further homogenize their appearance.

I still think that the differences in speech we hear among quarians are partly due to them speaking with a translator or not (accented pronunciation vs plain English). However, since the accented pronunciations themselves seem to differ from each other (Shala has a different accent than Tali), that could also be an indication of different origin among the quarians themselves. They would have to have a single language to communicate amongst themselves irrespective of nationality, much as humans have English, but retain accents.

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 20 septembre 2010 - 04:30 .

[MaaZeus]

timedrake32 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Tali is a space-gypsy.

 now thats just not nice at all.....
how can see be compair to a gypsy anyways?

Easy. Not nowaday Gypsy but nomadic Gypsies of old, the wandering groups of families who also got a lot of accusations of thievery and such amongst other people. (sometimes just, sometimes unjust) Just a general comparison but still not too different from Quarians situation I think. I too see Quarians as sort of gypsies of spaceage, wandering from place to place and trying to make a living.

Modifié par MaaZeus, 20 septembre 2010 - 05:29 .

[NuclearBuddha]

Yeah, sorry TD. Tali and the quarians have pretty much always been space-gypsies.

[Someone With Mass]

I hope we'll hear that or a similar accent from quarians originating from other ships than the Rayya in ME3.

[NuclearBuddha]

Someone With Mass wrote...

I hope we'll hear that or a similar accent from quarians originating from other ships than the Rayya in ME3.

Dunno.  I mean... her dad didn't really even have the same accent as Tali (must've come from her mother).

Edit:  didn't he sound almost german or something?

Modifié par NuclearBuddha, 20 septembre 2010 - 06:02 .