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[Mox Ruuga]

LPPrince wrote...

ME3 needs to have new romances for players who don't pick up ME1 or 2.

Sorry, but its that simple.

Indeed.

I smell the stench of fear in these types of topics (no new characters, no new romances, screw the noobs! etc.): the fear of ME2 characters being cameo'd in ME3...

[MrnDvlDg161]

Fear? I would call it customer demand.

Its not saying " screw the Newbs" its saying " Hey --- Newbs...stop being lazy and get the other games since its supposed to be an inter-connecting story. If it wasn't then there wouldn't be a Mass Effect. Has nothing to do with Newbs.

This is like if George Lucas scrapped each star wars movie because he knew before hand that some wouldn't watch the last 2 or 3. Or taking Dante completely out of Devil May Cry 4 and beyond because no one played him in DMC1.

Think about it.  Your such and so and you just got  Mass Effect 3.  So ok... now what?   Who are these Reapers. What the hell is is this all about --- Anderson who?  What is an Assari?  What's this Vimire their talking about... you know what... I demand that this whole thing be redone because  ( I, Me) haven't a clue whats going on and an entire fan base plus the people who made this world must bow down to this ignorance and start over.

That doesn't make a damn lick of sense what so ever.

This isn't Call of Duty or RFOM 1 and 2 where you pick up 2 rifles and wow... total immersion...now lets shoot everything and zoom past the game so I can do this repetitiously on multiplayer.

Modifié par MrnDvlDg161, 14 septembre 2010 - 08:59 .

[Pedrak]

But my question is: why should someone who didn't buy ME and ME2 be interested in the third game? I mean: 1) it's the last part of a trilogy, so it feels like being late to the party and missing most of the background, story and content; 2) it's not as if the first two were critically booed bombs; ME2, in particular, got glowing reviews and had a huge marketing campaign and awesome trailers; 3) We still don't know much about the gameplay, but a radical departure from the previous game seems unlikely.

So, what could make a new player think: "Hey, I wasn't interested in the first two, but this one, yeah, I want to try it"? It's a serious question, 'cause I don't get it. If a gamer is into sci-fi action/RPGs, he had no reason not to buy ME and ME2; if he isn't, why would he change his mind for the third game?

Modifié par Pedrak, 14 septembre 2010 - 09:00 .

[MrnDvlDg161]

Pedrak wrote...

But my question is: why should someone who didn't buy ME and ME2 be interested in the third game? I mean: 1) it's the last part of a trilogy, so it feels like being late to the party and missing most of the background, story and content; 2) it's not as if the first two were critically booed bombs; ME2, in particular, got glowing reviews and had a huge marketing campaign and awesome trailers; 3) We still don't know much about the gameplay, but a radical departure from the previous game seems unlikely.

So, what could make a new player think: "Hey, I wasn't interested in the first two, but this one, yeah, I want to try it"? It's a serious question, 'cause I don't get it.

Because they want to play the newest game so as to not be behind their friends and or --- the gaming community period.  Its kind of like front running in sports --- your not really a  Nicks or Lakers fan... their just up ahead for some good betting results.

[IllusionOfLife]

MrnDvlDg161 wrote...

Fear? I would call it customer demand.

Its not saying " screw the Newbs" its saying " Hey --- Newbs...stop being lazy and get the other games since its supposed to be an inter-connecting story. If it wasn't then there wouldn't be a Mass Effect. Has nothing to do with Newbs.

This is like if George Lucas scrapped each star wars movie because he knew before hand that some wouldn't watch the last 2 or 3. Or taking Dante completely out of Devil May Cry 4 and beyond because no one played him in DMC1. 

Exactly, the point of a series is to build upon the story in each subsequent entry. I have no problem with bringing people up to speed with a prologue (as is supposed to be the case in the PS3 version of ME2) but if everything has to be designed so that people can effortlessly pick up the third entry in a series without playing the first two then it defeats the purpose. You're essentially starting over on every single entry and that's a disservice to the fans who have invested the time to play all three games.

[MrnDvlDg161]

"But my question is: why should someone who didn't buy ME and ME2 be
interested in the third game? I mean: 1) it's the last part of a
trilogy, so it feels like being late to the party and missing most of
the background, story and content; 2) it's not as if the first two were
critically booed bombs; ME2, in particular, got glowing reviews and had a
huge marketing campaign and awesome trailers; 3) We still don't know
much about the gameplay, but a radical departure from the previous game
seems unlikely."


Changing game culture.  They set a presidence in a way that either has healthy or unhealthy affects depending on whom you might be --- jsut like  Cliff Notes kill a classic book someone otherwise doesn't want to read, hense games are being issued the same with trailers that run through past games to get someone sped up to the newest sequal.

Assassin's Creed by UBI Soft does this in  ACII. I imagine there are a few others as well, but putting it bluntly, there is an expectation of immediate gratification and the tools that make it possible for that to happen like You-Tube summaries. So when the 3rd or 4th game comes out --- Oh hey --- that looks cool. Do they have a You Tube to tell the rest of the story so that I don't have to bother?

New gen!

[OneDrunkMonk]

I agree that we do not need any new romance options in ME3. Big showdown against the Reapers and I really do not think Shepard's got the time and energy for more romance. Even though Shiala gives Shepard an amorous look in ME2 (assuming you weren't a trigger happy jerk and killed her in ME1) I really don't think there is room for new romances.

[Nightwriter]

If there are no new romances, keep in mind you will never be able to romance TIM in ME3. You shall never see that glory.

And there would be a scene where TIM breaks down sobbing that he wanted the Collector base to help save you from the Reapers and he resurrected your corpse cuz he "can't quit you" and everything. 

[Cossack72]

Baihu1983 wrote...

Burdokva wrote...



Second, and that's completely my subjective taste, I felt Mass Effect 2 leaned a bit heavily on the "dating sim" side. I couldn't be friendly with half of my crew mates, depending on the gender? You either romance someone, or you're purely professional.   

Agree with that. You should be able to talk to everyone as per normal but have maybe a 4th option thats the romance way with the others just being paragon/renegade options. They could even make the romance option a nice pink

I've been thinking about that for the longest time too. There could be pink dialogue options with your LI , or a pink interrupt option instead of a paragon one like at the end of LotSB with Liara (assuming she is your LI)

Edit: Lia Vael as a LI anyone?

Modifié par Cossack72, 14 septembre 2010 - 09:20 .

[tonnactus]

A female drell wouldnt be so bad.

[Sable Phoenix]

The only new LI should be Shiala (who coincidentally should be the only new squadmate too).

[Nuclear]

Nightwriter wrote...

And there would be a scene where TIM breaks down sobbing that he wanted the Collector base to help save you from the Reapers and he resurrected your corpse cuz he "can't quit you" and everything. 

Because of this I am now imagining Turian Councillor romance. Darn it.

New romances though.... It'll happen. Remember if your Shep died in ME2 you'll have a different one in ME3, so that one will probably get the opportunity to have a romance.

[Fragglespank]

I want to bang a volus.

[Onyx Jaguar]

I want like 50 new romances. That I will continue to ignore.



Also

If there are no new romances, keep in mind you will never be able to romance TIM in ME3. You shall never see that glory.

Apparently you have to wait in line, talk about a dull romance. Zzzzzz

[mopotter]

-ßeta- wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

And there would be a scene where TIM breaks down sobbing that he wanted the Collector base to help save you from the Reapers and he resurrected your corpse cuz he "can't quit you" and everything. 

Because of this I am now imagining Turian Councillor romance. Darn it.

New romances though.... It'll happen. Remember if your Shep died in ME2 you'll have a different one in ME3, so that one will probably get the opportunity to have a romance.

Well actually, if one of my Shep's die, I'll be playing one of my many other Sheps in ME3.  I tried starting a brand new game in ME2 and didn't like it.  Trashed it and brought in one of my ME Shepards.   Much better playing one of my "complete" Shepards.

I'm guessing they will have Gianna and Shiala as possible romances in ME3.  I can't off the top of my head remember any of the guys flirting with my Fem Shep, just Shiala, and Gianna definitely flirted with my male Shep. 

[ajw]

I agree.



There's enough love interests in the series already. We don't really need anymore.

[RPGmom28]

I agree with the option to start a little something with the crewmates that you weren't able to romance before- in particular, Zaeed and Samara. I would LOVE to romance Zaeed, as I thought he was hella sexy. But no new character introductions, because I don't want any distractions from the conclusions of the romances that they started in the first place. No more Kaidan or Ash brushed aside to squeeze in new people in tight rubber suits. And not only that, but there are also storyline threads that need to be tied off such as Thane's illness. Throwing new people into the mix detracts from whatever time those loose ends need to be completed.

Edited to say that I am hoping for Hanar intervention with Thane.  Could be an interesting planet run.

Modifié par RPGmom28, 15 septembre 2010 - 11:18 .

[FuturePasTimeCE]

sheperd didn't bone a salarian yet... dude doesn't have a hot red head FEMALE crew member as of yet, nor did he get it on with Kasumi yet... still possibilities of a entertain M E 3

[MrFob]

Agreed with OP.

[phantomrachie24]

I would like to be able to become Friends with people, it really annoyed me that my femshep could have a bit of a heart to heart with a squad mate e.g. Miranda and then was just shut down for the rest of the game.

My femshep always stayed loyal to Liara so this meant that conversations with the squadmates you could romance usually ended very quickly.

I think the idea of becoming friends with someone and getting additional conversation options for that. I mean there are some things that people will only tell to a best friend and not to someone they want to shag

[heretica]

ajw wrote...

I agree.

There's enough love interests in the series already. We don't really need anymore.

This.

[The Enforcer OS]

Playing devils advocate for a moment.... Not adding new romances has nothing to do w/ catering to people who have not played ME 1 & 2. What would be an old romance to us is still a new romance to them. They don't know the history of the game w/out studying it, so I find it a bit of a flawed argument to support 'no new romances'



I don't want to see 20 more new romances, as said before just complete the potential ones already hinted at. BTW I like the pink interrupt option, that however could be comical or allow for new ones that are not meant to expand into full romances. >

[MuteSpeech]

Knut0 wrote...

I kind agree, but then we still have those who have never played either the first or the second. So there will be a few new for those

The same logic applies to those who have only bought the second game and want to romance the VS or Liara. If you want to romance X, you should go play the game X is romancable is my stance.

Agreeing with no more love interests. The focus should be on resolving the epic tale spun in the first two games.

[The Enforcer OS]

For all who don't want new romances... just because there is a new romance does not mean you need to do anything w/ the new one. Continue focusing on your existing one. I have no doubts that Bioware has intentional of finishing the 'epic' tale of Shepard. That won't be diminished by additional relationships Shepard has along the way. It'd be like saying, "Shepard, you can't make any more friends, You are cut off"