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[Mallissin]

Revan312 wrote...

Mallissin wrote...

wulf3n wrote...
first encounter
Shepard - "Hi!"
Random LI - "I dont trust you Shepard"
Shepard - "ok"

second encounter
Shepard - "Hi"
Random LI - "I think im developing feelings for you shepard"
Shepard - "cool"

third encounter
Shepard - "Hi"
Random LI - "Lets have sex!"
Shepard - "Awwww, yeeeeaaahhhh!!!!!"

This is called dating.

If by the "third encounter" with someone, your screwing them, I wouldn't call it dating...

You're just jealous Shepard and I have "personality".

[BobZilla84]

I am for new LI's these are the one's I want in ME 3



Male/Female Shepard

1.Samara

2.Shiala



Male Shepard

1.Kasumi Goto



Female Shepard

1.Kal Reeger

[RPGmom28]

Well, I definitely want to see Kal'Reegar around in one form or another, and Samara's romance from ME2 was.... clipped, to say the least. But the thing that drives her is the purpose of justice, and I'm not sure she would be willing to make the kind of concessions in her life that enduring love demands. One of the reasons why I like her so much is that she is a woman with strong principles of her own, and she has a strong will. I can't say that I'd mind sparks flying between current companions. I just don't want any new people introduced that Shep has to start fresh with. As some have said, you can pull into any port and sleep with random people. But that time would be better spent addressing all of the plots that have already been started. And if they insist on going that route, I'm intent on having a booty call with Zaeed one way or another. =P



For example, how would Garrus react if he were approached by Kaidan for advice, and had to admit he was in a relationship with Shep? Or how would a confrontation between Jack and Ash go? What will happen with ManShep and Miranda if she has turned her back on Cerberus? All very interesting questions that I would rather not see ignored in favor of new eye candy.

[pikey1969]

I disagree.. in fact, I want to see some dongs and hoo-hoos this time.



I wouldn't mind a celebratory orgy after defeating the reapers either.

[GodWood]

I really, really don't want any more LIs. (we have ****ing 9!)

And I'm sure the majority of the fans would rather continue their current romance.

Bioware however will probably ignore this....

[upsettingshorts]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say anyone who buys Mass Effect 3 having not played either of the previous games will not be doing it because he/she wants to experience a love interest.



So personally I'd say continue if imported from a save, otherwise... no new stuff. Use the space elsewhere. Preferably on non-LI stuff that imported and new game players can enjoy regardless of their previous experience.



Granted "use the space elsewhere" is probably one of those empty phrases that's ultimately meaningless. Like I know what goes in to allocating development resources...

[turian councilor Knockout]

BobZilla 2k10 wrote...

I am for new LI's these are the one's I want in ME 3

Male/Female Shepard
1.Samara
2.Shiala

Male Shepard
1.Kasumi Goto

Female Shepard
1.Kal Reeger

 
I think Samara is far too old for Shepard but i agree with Shiala.

[--Master of All--]

I would atleast include a 'light' romance option (ala Kelly) for newcomers, because ignorance is bliss. But, in general, continuing romances are problematic when throwing new players into the mix. For example, if Liara joins the squad at any point, she will need to have two parallel conversation paths written depending on whether you are romantic partners or friends. New players would not be able to romance Liara unless they implemented a conversation path for 'new romance' in addition to 'continuing romance'. Granted, conversations can be written in such a way that they make sense regardless of relationship status and previous history, but I believe overusing this strategy will lead to a character that tries to please everyone, but ultimately pleases no one. IMO, it is best to either do away with continuing romances altogether, or decrease the number of romance options available to new players, and devote those resources elsewhere.

Modifié par --Master of All--, 17 septembre 2010 - 08:23 .

[Aradace]

--Master of All-- wrote...

I would atleast include a 'light' romance option (ala Kelly) for newcomers, because ignorance is bliss. But, in general, continuing romances are problematic when throwing new players into the mix. For example, if Liara joins the squad at any point, she will need to have two parallel conversation paths written depending on whether you are romantic partners or friends. New players would not be able to romance Liara unless they implemented a conversation path for 'new romance' in addition to 'continuing romance'. Granted, conversations can be written in such a way that they make sense regardless of relationship status and previous history, but I believe overusing this strategy will lead to a character that tries to please everyone, but ultimately pleases no one. IMO, it is best to either do away with continuing romances altogether, or decrease the number of romance options available to new players, and devote those resources elsewhere.

Actually, my thought would be that new players to the series wouldnt be able to romance Liara at all.  Or for that matter, any of the other previous ME1 or ME2 LIs.  If you're a "newbie" to the series in ME3, then your only LI options should be those that are "new" to ME3.  Yes, that would technically be "punishing" players new to the series at that point but IMO, if you come into the series as a newbie at part 3 without playing at LEAST part 2, then you deserve to be "punished" in some way lol.

[Mox Ruuga]

It would be a bad call to make ME1 and ME2 LIs available to noobs.

The dialogue would have to be written as more generic and more introductory, simply to bring them up to speed. Less in jokes and callbacks to previous games, and the structure of the romance would unfortunately follow the usual "get to know" -> "acknowledge interest" -> "sex at the end" structure, which doesn't make sense for already ongoing romances, or even characters that are already on a friend level with each other.

Therefore, completely new LIs are needed.

[Getorex]

pikey1969 wrote...

I disagree.. in fact, I want to see some dongs and hoo-hoos this time.

I wouldn't mind a celebratory orgy after defeating the reapers either.

I almost sprayed my coffee on this one.  Well done.

I too have contemplated a control setting (like the blood-and-guts level setting from some FPS games) that would make the game either PG or NC-17. 

As for an orgy...sure!  I was ready for a wee little one when it came to Liara and Ashley.  Too bad Ash turned out to be such a prude (it almost seemed Liara was open to the idea  by her silence and her watching Ash during that comment in the conversation, almost as if waiting to hear if Ash WOULD go for that).

Dongs and hoo-hoos all around.

[Getorex]

Oh...as for providing LIs for clowns that come along for ME3 only? Screw 'em. If they can't bring themselves to play the entire EXCELLENT series and get with the program/universe/system, then they aren't worth pandering to in the last of the game. It's not as if the previous games will be expensive at that point (ME1 is available CHEAP now with ME2 out for a while. WHen ME3 comes out, the two previous will be cheaper still - spring for the earlier games and play 'em or get the f*ck out of my ME universe!

[Kondorr]

I would be happy, If there were no new romances, but a lot of romance contant with the existing ones from both games...



Besides I think it would be nice to maybe help the crew out... You know... help Jokoer comit to EDI

this kind of stuff... let it not be so Shepard centered...

[Karlojey]

I agree with the OP. By the time ME3 rolls by, it should focus on the story: Kicking Reaper Ass!!!

There are enough LIs in the game. I think if someone that has never played the first two installments gets confused with the 3rd one because it doesn't make sense, they would probably get the 1st and 2nd if they're a true fan.

Besides, by that time ME3 is released, ME1 and ME2 might be sold at a bargain at various stores

[Getorex]

Kondorr wrote...

I would be happy, If there were no new romances, but a lot of romance contant with the existing ones from both games...

Besides I think it would be nice to maybe help the crew out... You know... help Jokoer comit to EDI
this kind of stuff... let it not be so Shepard centered...

The joker:EDI thingy only makes remote sense if they give EDI a form based on Tricia Helfer to replace the current golfball object.

[H1natachan]

Karlojey wrote...

I agree with the OP. By the time ME3 rolls by, it should focus on the story: Kicking Reaper Ass!!!
There are enough LIs in the game. I think if someone that has never played the first two installments gets confused with the 3rd one because it doesn't make sense, they would probably get the 1st and 2nd if they're a true fan.
Besides, by that time ME3 is released, ME1 and ME2 might be sold at a bargain at various stores

exactly

[shumworld]

I wouldn't mind the idea to romance the characters who were potentials from the last 2 game again. Like say you didn't romance Liara in part 1, but have the option to do so in 3.

[GodWood]

Mox Ruuga wrote...
It would be a bad call to make ME1 and ME2 LIs available to noobs.

I agree with this.

Therefore, completely new LIs are needed.

But disagree with this.
I say **** the noobs who haven't bothered to play the first two games in the trilogy, romance should be exclusive to those who have played the previous titles.
At most they should only get ME1 consort-esque encounters (and since the majority of them are probably casuals they'd be quite happy with that)

[Mox Ruuga]

GodWood wrote...

But disagree with this.
I say **** the noobs who haven't bothered to play the first two games in the trilogy, romance should be exclusive to those who have played the previous titles.
At most they should only get ME1 consort-esque encounters (and since the majority of them are probably casuals they'd be quite happy with that)

Yeah, I'm sure Bioware shares your "screw the paying new customers" attitude... /sarc

The whole "romance" thing is pretty popular, with returning and new fans alike.

Perhaps if they had had the balls to write ME2 as less of a stand alone game... But nah, that's over and done with. Hudson has already been talking up about how ME3 will be stand alone as well.

[kingswing]

Mox Ruuga wrote...

It would be a bad call to make ME1 and ME2 LIs available to noobs.

The dialogue would have to be written as more generic and more introductory, simply to bring them up to speed. Less in jokes and callbacks to previous games, and the structure of the romance would unfortunately follow the usual "get to know" -> "acknowledge interest" -> "sex at the end" structure, which doesn't make sense for already ongoing romances, or even characters that are already on a friend level with each other.

Therefore, completely new LIs are needed.

That would only be true if you don't already have saved data, look at what they did with liara in ME2 it can be done, plus the codex exist for a reason. Just put the background info in there. I am sorry but  at this point all the backstory should be relegated to text, we are two games and dozens of hours of gameplay in at this point. People shouldn't try to jump on board with the finale and if they do they should be forced to read the codex to get the true expeience. We can't keep trying to appeal to a wider audience, the game is already a smashing success now it is just about making a product so good that new comers will want to go back and experience everything.

[Mox Ruuga]

kingswing wrote...

That would only be true if you don't already have saved data, look at what they did with liara in ME2 it can be done, plus the codex exist for a reason. Just put the background info in there. I am sorry but  at this point all the backstory should be relegated to text, we are two games and dozens of hours of gameplay in at this point. People shouldn't try to jump on board with the finale and if they do they should be forced to read the codex to get the true expeience. We can't keep trying to appeal to a wider audience, the game is already a smashing success now it is just about making a product so good that new comers will want to go back and experience everything.

Sigh.

Who's "we"?

Bioware has already stated that THEY will make ME3 as another stand alone game.

[GodWood]

Mox Ruuga wrote...

GodWood wrote...
But disagree with this.
I say **** the noobs who haven't bothered to play the first two games in the trilogy, romance should be exclusive to those who have played the previous titles.
At most they should only get ME1 consort-esque encounters (and since the majority of them are probably casuals they'd be quite happy with that)

Yeah, I'm sure Bioware shares your "screw the paying new customers" attitude... /sarc

Yes and i'm sure its best to just ****** off your already existing fanbase (One of the main things the fans constantly say in the "What I want for ME3 thread" is to be able to continue their romance and for their fave character to have a big role)

The whole "romance" thing is pretty popular, with returning and new fans alike.
Perhaps if they had had the balls to write ME2 as less of a stand alone game... But nah, that's over and done with. Hudson has already been talking up about how ME3 will be stand alone as well.

I'm sure casual newcomers can handle not having romances, its not like its a common must have in the shooter/RPG genre.

Modifié par GodWood, 18 septembre 2010 - 10:47 .

[Mox Ruuga]

GodWood wrote...

Yes and i'm sure its best to just ****** off your already existing fanbase (One of the main things the fans constantly say in the "What I want for ME3 thread" is to be able to continue their romance and for their fave character to have a big role)

There was a "big" blowup before the release of ME2 as well. People were first furious about Wrex, then about Liara and the VS.

Guess what? The overwhelming majority of those people bought the game, and are still on these boards, discussing it.

For an even better example about the loltastic danger of pissing off your Internet fans, see the hoopla about the loss of PC exclusive features from COD4 MW in COD MW2. The fan fury dwarfed whatever little indignation the various Talimancers and Garrus fangirls might muster up, the IW website forums needed to be locked up etc. And most of those people STILL bought MW2.

I'm sure casual newcomers can handle not having romances, its not like its a common must have in the shooter/RPG genre.

Heh, who knows? Not that we'll find out, since I'm fairly sure Bioware is not going to gyp them out of a major RPG feature just because some vocal Internet demands, from a few hundred people at best.

[Dallas118]

BobZilla 2k10 wrote...

I am for new LI's these are the one's I want in ME 3

Male/Female Shepard
1.Samara
2.Shiala

Male Shepard
1.Kasumi Goto

Female Shepard
1.Kal Reeger

No, pls. I really would like a cool normal/human guy for my FemShep and there isn't one 'cause Jacob is not and Kaidan hates me after I chose Liara in ME1.

[pikey1969]

Mox Ruuga wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Yes and i'm sure its best to just ****** off your already existing fanbase (One of the main things the fans constantly say in the "What I want for ME3 thread" is to be able to continue their romance and for their fave character to have a big role)

There was a "big" blowup before the release of ME2 as well. People were first furious about Wrex, then about Liara and the VS.

Guess what? The overwhelming majority of those people bought the game, and are still on these boards, discussing it.

For an even better example about the loltastic danger of pissing off your Internet fans, see the hoopla about the loss of PC exclusive features from COD4 MW in COD MW2. The fan fury dwarfed whatever little indignation the various Talimancers and Garrus fangirls might muster up, the IW website forums needed to be locked up etc. And most of those people STILL bought MW2.

I'm sure casual newcomers can handle not having romances, its not like its a common must have in the shooter/RPG genre.

Heh, who knows? Not that we'll find out, since I'm fairly sure Bioware is not going to gyp them out of a major RPG feature just because some vocal Internet demands, from a few hundred people at best.

There's a difference between an uproar over huge sweeping changes to the architecture of a PC multiplayer, clearly designed to accommodate nickel-diming style businesses from consoles, and shedding tears of rage over virtual-relationships in a role playing game.