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Garrus pushed towards C-Sec/Spectres progress?


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I was messing around with Gibbed's Mass Effect 2 Save Builder and noticed settings under Plot/Mass Effect 1/Values named [Henchmen] Garrus pushed towards C-Sec/Spectres progress.

What is this referring to from Mass Effect and what does it do to Mass Effect 2? My ammount was at only 1 for C-Sec ad 0 for Specre, so I guess I missed most?

Any idea?

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This valua determines some dialogue with him. As far as I remember, the more "renegade"/ruthless you let him be in the conversations with him at the make, the higher the value gets.

A C-Sec focused Garrus will for example (provided you recruited him in ME1) say how he tried to give C-Sec another chance after the fight with Saren and the Reapers. A Spectre focused Garrus on the other hand will note how he got fed up by all their bureaucratic BS and left for good.

Whilst his loyalty mission, when pushed towards renegade value high enough and you keep pressing the issue on how why he wants to shot the target, he'll remark on why of all people you are the one to oppose (haven't got this one yet myself though).

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I know I was paragon with Garrus in my last ME playthrough and with his quest. But he still tells me that he got fed up with the BS.

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Sesshomaru47 wrote...

I know I was paragon with Garrus in my last ME playthrough and with his quest. But he still tells me that he got fed up with the BS.


Garrus does say that line regardless of alignment when you first meet up with him on Omega. The first conversation onboard the Normandy should have Garrus saying "C-Sec was too busy with the Citadel repairs for me to make a difference" if you have him pushed back towards C-Sec.

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How you treated him in Me1 reflects in his dialoge during his loyalty mission, if you make him renegade in me1 and then question all the violence he's intending to put on harkin/sidonis he'll go wtf? you taught me other wise etc. I've never done paragon, but I assume its the opposite.

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Count Viceroy wrote...

How you treated him in Me1 reflects in his dialoge during his loyalty mission, if you make him renegade in me1 and then question all the violence he's intending to put on harkin/sidonis he'll go wtf? you taught me other wise etc. I've never done paragon, but I assume its the opposite.


I think they left the Paragon version out .... he still seems worse than he was when you met him in ME1. You still have to run interference for his target in the loyalty mission. If you simply let him take the shot, he doesn't express any surprise.

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there are a couple bonuses he gains during mass effect 1 but i've only seen benefits to certain interregation/harassment options in ME2 which can be gained if your shepard kept spectre rank anyway.

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Moiaussi wrote...

Count Viceroy wrote...

How you treated him in Me1 reflects in his dialoge during his loyalty mission, if you make him renegade in me1 and then question all the violence he's intending to put on harkin/sidonis he'll go wtf? you taught me other wise etc. I've never done paragon, but I assume its the opposite.


I think they left the Paragon version out .... he still seems worse than he was when you met him in ME1. You still have to run interference for his target in the loyalty mission. If you simply let him take the shot, he doesn't express any surprise.


Well, he doesn't express suprise if you let him take the shot, but on the other hand if you question him as a Paragon he understands, even if he wants revenge, he comments about he should have known you'd try to talk him out of it.