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[FuturePasTimeCE]

 :unsure:really... you even have some people who rather side with the geth's actions, than agreeing with the idea of quarians' being the victims of their own mistake (constantly tweaking A.I.).

i hope some annoying-emotional quarian don't think Commander Sheperd's secretively plotting anything against them... or don't like them... 

within introspective characterization, i think it's most logical for people to have a neutral-outlook regarding the quarians...

none of a disfavoring, hostile, or one-sided pre-conclusion nature.

Diplomacy & Neutrality should be important in futuristic galactic communities.

Modifié par FuturePasTimeCE, 15 septembre 2010 - 05:17 .

[Onyx Jaguar]

I am of the side that if they act in hostility I would actively act against them. However if the Geth acted hostilely I would not take sides.

[Nightwriter]

Tali's fanbase could take over the continent. How can you say no one likes quarians. I'm sure her fanbase has a national quarian holiday or something.

[Rebel_Guy]

Nightwriter wrote...

Tali's fanbase could take over the continent. How can you say no one likes quarians. I'm sure her fanbase has a national quarian holiday or something.

I think that the way people treat quarians in the game adds to the reasons of why they have such a large fanbase they are humbled alot

[Nightwriter]

That's certainly true for me.

[ExtremeOne]

The Quarians did weapons test on the geth so hell yeah i'm siding with the geth.

[upsettingshorts]

Because they don't know they're beaten.

[FuturePasTimeCE]

ExtremeOne wrote...

The Quarians did weapons test on the geth so hell yeah i'm siding with the geth.

well, the geth also do weapons test on humans... your point? I guess you'd side with this too and all... atleast quarians have core understanding on how the geth function, and could use that knowledge as to preventing further casualties.

Modifié par FuturePasTimeCE, 15 septembre 2010 - 05:49 .

[KainrycKarr]

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

The Quarians did weapons test on the geth so hell yeah i'm siding with the geth.

well, the geth also do weapons test on humans? your point? o guess you'd side with this too and all... atleast quarians have core understanding on how the geth function, and could use that knowledge as to preventing further casualties.

Those are Heretic Geth, not the original Geth.

[FuturePasTimeCE]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Because they don't know they're beaten.

well i guess that mean they should completely stop existing as a species or something right? what if someone said that to humans? "you guys should just give up already, the robots have you humans beaten... become extinct. stop trying to survive and remaining populated. you lost, you have no rights in this universe. the robots do.", you in a different sense.

[FuturePasTimeCE]

KainrycKarr wrote...

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

The Quarians did weapons test on the geth so hell yeah i'm siding with the geth.

well, the geth also do weapons test on humans? your point? o guess you'd side with this too and all... atleast quarians have core understanding on how the geth function, and could use that knowledge as to preventing further casualties.

Those are Heretic Geth, not the original Geth.

but there's a source for heretic geth, thus likely being from the original geth right? the heretic geth had to start somewhere. does it matter? a heretic geth is likely a original geth gone heretic right?

[Daerog]

All aboard the Quib-Quib ship of geth-quarian peace and love!

[Zan51]

I like Quarioans and Tali! I find them more interesting as a species socially than the other races, though I would like to find out more about them all. I always help Quarians when I can, ****** the girl in the citadel accused of theft, and Kenn in Omega - I threaten the elephant guy then give Kenn the ticket money out of there.

[MrnDvlDg161]

Either or your forced to decide I suppose but whose willing to make either extinct? In the end I gave the Geth the virus instead of re-writing them.



I know only one thing, each time I've came across a geth aside from Legion, they've tried to kill me first. I can't say that about the Quarians. On top of that, why am I going to judge them when they've obviously suffered for their actions pretty darned fully for how many generations now?



I say be neutral about it in the end, choosing one or the other will bite you in the arse but if I had to choose a or b --- I would go Quarian as a Quarian speaks and reasons with me --- the Geth gives me the wrong end of the gun. Every time. Heretic or non-Heretic. If its Heretics you wish to destroy --- then say so.



I find few people in real life that actully have the guts to pull such a trigger quite honestly and those who I have ran into haven't gotten the chance to --- a damn thing being in front of the red button isn't it?



I do find certain things interesting like a swath of people are willing to side with a sentient being that not only has tried to kill you numerous times... but also implying that the Arachni would also be on your side... who else would pander to you if their about to get burned alive by acid? Hell --- most of us would probably tell someone if their wearing ladies underwear or not under those conditions regardless if its true or not. I didn't by the faulty explanation about " we need them for the Reapers". Like hell --- say that again when their in the hundreds of thousand from a huge reproductive rate and they decided to get hungry.



Its all in the choice of the matter.

[ExtremeOne]

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

The Quarians did weapons test on the geth so hell yeah i'm siding with the geth.

well, the geth also do weapons test on humans... your point? I guess you'd side with this too and all... atleast quarians have core understanding on how the geth function, and could use that knowledge as to preventing further casualties.

   




I am not saying the geth has not did anything wrong but the way Tali talks in ME 1 as if the geth did the wrong thing by defending them selfs. and then Tali all but begs for Shepard to cover up the fact her father did weapons test on the geth in ME 2. I am sorry but the Quarians have made it seem like they were the victims in this but in truth they started this whole war. so thats why i side with the geth. 

[Breakdown Boy]

I don't know, I find the Quarians to kind weak and they die pretty eaily, but they are brilliant engineers and techies, so I don't really see them adding much to the fight against the reapers unless their fleet gets an upgrade. I also would not like any hostile action by the geth or quarians. So peace people.



Besides that I don't find the quarians that interesting, their kind of like space gypsies, nobody really wants them in their town.

[jimmyjoefro]

Probably has to do with the whole creation of the Geth and one massive pain in the ass for the entire galaxy.

[Randy1012]

I don't mind the quarians, but I do get a little tired of their complaining about being stuck in the Migrant Fleet. It's their own fault they ended up there in the first place. Sure, they've gotten a couple of raw deals from the Council, but they broke Council law in the first place.

[Shadowomega23]

It depends on what you mean. If you mean the races in game, that is because the quarian made the geth whom to many are the boggy men, however if you do get to know them their not the boggy men their made out to be. (paraphrased from Anderson). Infact you do learn they can really boggy.




But if you mean outside of game I think it is a mix of RPing and a little dislike how some people go with their comments about Tali. Then again from what I saw of Garrus, Wrex, Grunt, even Legion in a couple threads, I would call Talimancer closer to normal if you look more in depth of the other threads.

Modifié par Shadowomega23, 15 septembre 2010 - 06:48 .

[Mike2640]

I don't really mind Quarians much, but their insistence that they were the victims in their war against the Geth and that they didn't do anything wrong is pretty irritating. As far as I'm concerned the Quarians got what they deserved when they were exiled. They should start colonizing on other worlds though.

[HazelrahFiver]

Am I wrong, or were the Geth built by the Quarians?

That's a rhetorical question.

They are not living creatures, no matter how much you may want to take sides with them. Bender would want to kill me right now, but the Geth are robots, nothing more. They may have A.I. and have a collective 'consciousness' like the Borg, but they are NOT alive. Which would you prefer, people performing tests on animals or performing tests on robots? The answer is obvious, because humanity is trying to stray away from animal testing every day, and we build more and more robots to perform the dangerous tasks that can risk lives.



The Quarians built the Geth for whatever purposes they want, and they have the right to test/damage/destroy them. Yes, the right. It's the same as forging a sword in order to spar with it. The Geth put on a good show of acting alive, of acting as if sentient, but they are machines. No matter how you break it down they are the same as toasters. They only exist due to the programming some genius Quarians implanted within them in the first place.



The Quarians did make many mistakes, the primary being that they built something stronger than themselves. However, the Geth should be abolished entirely like a model # from a factory that is defective. They, the Quarians, do not deserve for one second to be punished or to have war waged against them. It's a shame there isn't some grand switch that can be flipped that easily shuts down all the Geth. Hopefully there is actually, and in ME3 you and Tali will trudge to the Quarian homeworld to flip it (metaphorically, because an actually switch would be terrible writing ;p).



P.S. I love Legion and my Para-Shep supported him while using the Paragon option to keep Tali satiated. This I chose for story purposes. My Rene-Shep is entirely against the Geth, even the non-Heretic forms.

[FuturePasTimeCE]

HazelrahFiver wrote...

Am I wrong, or were the Geth built by the Quarians?
That's a rhetorical question.
They are not living creatures, no matter how much you may want to take sides with them. Bender would want to kill me right now, but the Geth are robots, nothing more. They may have A.I. and have a collective 'consciousness' like the Borg, but they are NOT alive. Which would you prefer, people performing tests on animals or performing tests on robots? The answer is obvious, because humanity is trying to stray away from animal testing every day, and we build more and more robots to perform the dangerous tasks that can risk lives.

The Quarians built the Geth for whatever purposes they want, and they have the right to test/damage/destroy them. Yes, the right. It's the same as forging a sword in order to spar with it. The Geth put on a good show of acting alive, of acting as if sentient, but they are machines. No matter how you break it down they are the same as toasters. They only exist due to the programming some genius Quarians implanted within them in the first place.

The Quarians did make many mistakes, the primary being that they built something stronger than themselves. However, the Geth should be abolished entirely like a model # from a factory that is defective. They, the Quarians, do not deserve for one second to be punished or to have war waged against them. It's a shame there isn't some grand switch that can be flipped that easily shuts down all the Geth. Hopefully there is actually, and in ME3 you and Tali will trudge to the Quarian homeworld to flip it (metaphorically, because an actually switch would be terrible writing ;p).

P.S. I love Legion and my Para-Shep supported him while using the Paragon option to keep Tali satiated. This I chose for story purposes. My Rene-Shep is entirely against the Geth, even the non-Heretic forms.

:unsure:"i'm commander sheperd, and i really approve her logic.", Commander Sheperd.

they are the ones who built the geth, in fact the very experiments on the geth, designing geth, that lead to the existence of geth in the first place... meaning if they want to uncreate their creation of geth then they by all means are not doing anything wrong or illegal, not violating some device's natural rights... that's like my cd player revolting against me, and then claiming i violated it's natural rights.

[Onyx Jaguar]

The machines they created in turn have every right to defend themselves from being terminated.



If your CD player revoltes against you and claims that you violated its rights, that would indeed create some questions. If it was powerful enough to kill you easily, then that demands a certain kind of respect.

[Shadowomega23]

If my CD player started talking on its own I just pull the damn plug or shot it with my 12 guage, if my 12 guage started talking I would wonder who spiked my drink/food.

[HazelrahFiver]

That would fall under the mistake the Quarians made. They built something stronger than themselves and now it wants to revolt. Don't think for a moment the Geth are alive or deserve to be alive. They are cd players. They do not deserve respect. The person who created the cd player deserves respect, and the player itself should be treated carefully as to not cause damage.



The only way in which the Geth have the right to defend themselves is because they are lucky the Quarians screwed up and gave them that option. Outside of that, no, they do not.