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It's not that I dont believe Chris Priestly, It's that EA posted a job advert for a multiplayer programmer for Mass Effect. If someone posts a job advert then it's usually pretty serious. Also there were numerous articles that said the same thing so I take it as reliable information.


Yup, denials aren't worth anything. If its not 100% then they deny. It doesn't mean its 0%, however. Meanwhile, a job posting means they are very likely looking at it. Or maybe its just a clever marketing gimmick. 




or since me2 is being ported to ps3 without me1 maybe ps3ers will get multiplayer or co-op.... every system that has the same game has some form of exclusive content and maybe this is it for ps3?

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I don't want the developers wasting their precious time on some multiplayer. We had such fails already with other games that were not developed by BioWare.


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I think you may want multiplayer...

But I just don't think its going to be what you think it is --- there's a problem with people playing set characters with set stories and dialouge trees. Its an RPG --- with triggers, cut scenes, and a script to play.

What your probably going to see  ( if there was one)  would be a stand-alone Multiplayer aside from the main game in which you have...  how ever many levels they make whether it be a planet, ship, or base...  and your able to select different alien races and such with a few weapons.

I think there was a discussion like this before... what is the other player going to do --- click on the various character's responce trees ?  What happens to the Paragon/Renegade point system?  Its too set based to have people meddle with it in game... its going to have to be something aside from it.

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IMO, I don't think ME3 needs a multiplayer. I agree with Liec, it would ruin a part of the ambiance and experience that we are used to in the series.



Not ignoring the job however, it might be the job is for a MMO different from ME3 based on the Mass Effect Universe.

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MrnDvlDg161 wrote...

I think you may want multiplayer...

But I just don't think its going to be what you think it is --- there's a problem with people playing set characters with set stories and dialouge trees. Its an RPG --- with triggers, cut scenes, and a script to play.

What your probably going to see  ( if there was one)  would be a stand-alone Multiplayer aside from the main game in which you have...  how ever many levels they make whether it be a planet, ship, or base...  and your able to select different alien races and such with a few weapons.

I think there was a discussion like this before... what is the other player going to do --- click on the various character's responce trees ?  What happens to the Paragon/Renegade point system?  Its too set based to have people meddle with it in game... its going to have to be something aside from it.



Seems as if no one is reading my original post :(,

MEM should be a completely different storyline from the single player story.

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krogan rebellion or rachni war period would be cool

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DaChimp wrote...

IMO, I don't think ME3 needs a multiplayer. I agree with Liec, it would ruin a part of the ambiance and experience that we are used to in the series.

Not ignoring the job however, it might be the job is for a MMO different from ME3 based on the Mass Effect Universe.




a me mmo im usually agaisnt but now im starting to cave a little bit on that idea... if and only if a mass effect mmo does indeed get made whats the story and what charachters and classes are involved?

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chaos-zhan wrote...

krogan rebellion or rachni war period would be cool


I would like the Rachni but I despise Krogan with a passion lol

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MrnDvlDg161 wrote...

I think you may want multiplayer...

But I just don't think its going to be what you think it is --- there's a problem with people playing set characters with set stories and dialouge trees. Its an RPG --- with triggers, cut scenes, and a script to play.

What your probably going to see  ( if there was one)  would be a stand-alone Multiplayer aside from the main game in which you have...  how ever many levels they make whether it be a planet, ship, or base...  and your able to select different alien races and such with a few weapons.

I think there was a discussion like this before... what is the other player going to do --- click on the various character's responce trees ?  What happens to the Paragon/Renegade point system?  Its too set based to have people meddle with it in game... its going to have to be something aside from it.



Seems as if no one is reading my original post :(,

MEM should be a completely different storyline from the single player story.



Well what I'm saying is --- why does there need to be any store to it?  I should think the multiplayer would have Krogans, Salarians,  Asari ect --- multiplayer isn't for stories, its to shoot your friends up in a mindless skirmish or set competitive game.

I was more talking about some individuals who may believe they could actully co-op in a set RPG. It would be very... off shall you say.

But as a stand lone MP.  Sure... I mean it can be done.  I doubt it would be hard to do... although you know... if you really wanted MP...why not just add it to a Mass Effect FPS instead? That way you know the talents will be zeroed in on such things rather than being a side note to the RPG?

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Tazzmission wrote...

DaChimp wrote...

IMO, I don't think ME3 needs a multiplayer. I agree with Liec, it would ruin a part of the ambiance and experience that we are used to in the series.

Not ignoring the job however, it might be the job is for a MMO different from ME3 based on the Mass Effect Universe.




a me mmo im usually agaisnt but now im starting to cave a little bit on that idea... if and only if a mass effect mmo does indeed get made whats the story and what charachters and classes are involved?


It couldn't involve shepherd, thats the one thing I stand firmly by. It could involve an alien race such as the Pre-ME Protheans.

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If someone was dying for a multilayer, I would think I would make a FPS where a multilayer system makes sense than screwing with the main trilogy that's a FPS/RPG.



Its pretty stupid to have one game with MP at the every end of a trilogy in my opp.








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PAVELOW FO SHO wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

DaChimp wrote...

IMO, I don't think ME3 needs a multiplayer. I agree with Liec, it would ruin a part of the ambiance and experience that we are used to in the series.

Not ignoring the job however, it might be the job is for a MMO different from ME3 based on the Mass Effect Universe.




a me mmo im usually agaisnt but now im starting to cave a little bit on that idea... if and only if a mass effect mmo does indeed get made whats the story and what charachters and classes are involved?


It couldn't involve shepherd, thats the one thing I stand firmly by. It could involve an alien race such as the Pre-ME Protheans.




i believe in contuity and if there are some form of spin off titles i recomend it focesus on garrus and having him become a turrian captain of a turrian fleet. so for example a little short story i cooked up


one week after the defeat of the reapers garrus vakarian recieves a award for bravery and rank of captain, garrus commands a squad of turrians but is still in a form of ptsd from the reaper wars, distraught and depressed garrus holds onto what commander shepard stood for and thats show no fear and stand up and fight.

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Ok here are some helpful hints.



1) We do know Chris said that ME3 was solely singleplayer. I cant see them changing it half way well 2/3 of the way through. Co-op I dont think would work. I mean there arent 2 commander shepards.



2) however what we dont know is that what EA has planned for the after of ME3. That job advertisement would and probably could be for that. ME3 has been in development for almost 8 months by the time that article was written so I dont think they would just post the advert then.



3) Persoanlly I dont want it, not for ME3. ME4 or whatever they have planned after sure. And these ideas would work there. However here please no. Not in ME3, keep it singleplayer oreintated.

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MrnDvlDg161 wrote...

PAVELOW FO SHO wrote...

MrnDvlDg161 wrote...

I think you may want multiplayer...

But I just don't think its going to be what you think it is --- there's a problem with people playing set characters with set stories and dialouge trees. Its an RPG --- with triggers, cut scenes, and a script to play.

What your probably going to see  ( if there was one)  would be a stand-alone Multiplayer aside from the main game in which you have...  how ever many levels they make whether it be a planet, ship, or base...  and your able to select different alien races and such with a few weapons.

I think there was a discussion like this before... what is the other player going to do --- click on the various character's responce trees ?  What happens to the Paragon/Renegade point system?  Its too set based to have people meddle with it in game... its going to have to be something aside from it.



Seems as if no one is reading my original post :(,

MEM should be a completely different storyline from the single player story.



Well what I'm saying is --- why does there need to be any store to it?  I should think the multiplayer would have Krogans, Salarians,  Asari ect --- multiplayer isn't for stories, its to shoot your friends up in a mindless skirmish or set competitive game.

I was more talking about some individuals who may believe they could actully co-op in a set RPG. It would be very... off shall you say.

But as a stand lone MP.  Sure... I mean it can be done.  I doubt it would be hard to do... although you know... if you really wanted MP...why not just add it to a Mass Effect FPS instead? That way you know the talents will be zeroed in on such things rather than being a side note to the RPG?




I believe ME needs a story driven multiplayer is because ME is such a story driven series, thats all. The multiplayer would feel empty if it didn;t have that Mass Effect cinematic quality.

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theelementslayer wrote...

Ok here are some helpful hints.

1) We do know Chris said that ME3 was solely singleplayer. I cant see them changing it half way well 2/3 of the way through. Co-op I dont think would work. I mean there arent 2 commander shepards.

2) however what we dont know is that what EA has planned for the after of ME3. That job advertisement would and probably could be for that. ME3 has been in development for almost 8 months by the time that article was written so I dont think they would just post the advert then.

3) Persoanlly I dont want it, not for ME3. ME4 or whatever they have planned after sure. And these ideas would work there. However here please no. Not in ME3, keep it singleplayer oreintated.




thank you! i dont care if mp is in the spin off games but dont bring it to me3.

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I am convinced that if Bioware does a multiplayer non-online game that they will borrow the mechanics from TOR, which allow multiple people to participate in a conversation.

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theelementslayer wrote...

Ok here are some helpful hints.

1) We do know Chris said that ME3 was solely singleplayer. I cant see them changing it half way well 2/3 of the way through. Co-op I dont think would work. I mean there arent 2 commander shepards.

2) however what we dont know is that what EA has planned for the after of ME3. That job advertisement would and probably could be for that. ME3 has been in development for almost 8 months by the time that article was written so I dont think they would just post the advert then.

3) Persoanlly I dont want it, not for ME3. ME4 or whatever they have planned after sure. And these ideas would work there. However here please no. Not in ME3, keep it singleplayer oreintated.


Goes back to my idea ... why do an ME4 when it could be a Mass Effect game of its own standing?  There's a lot to use to make a pretty interesting shooter ---  Resistance 2 like.  You are however, asking Bio Ware who is pretty much an RPG company to transform it self to a genre it hasn't really grasped as its core being.

I would think you would have to sell ths particular ME game to a different dev.

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theelementslayer wrote...

Ok here are some helpful hints.

1) We do know Chris said that ME3 was solely singleplayer. I cant see them changing it half way well 2/3 of the way through. Co-op I dont think would work. I mean there arent 2 commander shepards.

2) however what we dont know is that what EA has planned for the after of ME3. That job advertisement would and probably could be for that. ME3 has been in development for almost 8 months by the time that article was written so I dont think they would just post the advert then.

3) Persoanlly I dont want it, not for ME3. ME4 or whatever they have planned after sure. And these ideas would work there. However here please no. Not in ME3, keep it singleplayer oreintated.


I see your points and they are valid, but remember, the higher-ups at  EA are the deciding factor of all of this.
If they say MP then Bioware must ask "What do you want?". But hey I'm all for a spin off Mass Effect Multiplayer series :wizard:

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PAVELOW FO SHO wrote...

MrnDvlDg161 wrote...

PAVELOW FO SHO wrote...

MrnDvlDg161 wrote...

I think you may want multiplayer...

But I just don't think its going to be what you think it is --- there's a problem with people playing set characters with set stories and dialouge trees. Its an RPG --- with triggers, cut scenes, and a script to play.

What your probably going to see  ( if there was one)  would be a stand-alone Multiplayer aside from the main game in which you have...  how ever many levels they make whether it be a planet, ship, or base...  and your able to select different alien races and such with a few weapons.

I think there was a discussion like this before... what is the other player going to do --- click on the various character's responce trees ?  What happens to the Paragon/Renegade point system?  Its too set based to have people meddle with it in game... its going to have to be something aside from it.



Seems as if no one is reading my original post :(,

MEM should be a completely different storyline from the single player story.



Well what I'm saying is --- why does there need to be any store to it?  I should think the multiplayer would have Krogans, Salarians,  Asari ect --- multiplayer isn't for stories, its to shoot your friends up in a mindless skirmish or set competitive game.

I was more talking about some individuals who may believe they could actully co-op in a set RPG. It would be very... off shall you say.

But as a stand lone MP.  Sure... I mean it can be done.  I doubt it would be hard to do... although you know... if you really wanted MP...why not just add it to a Mass Effect FPS instead? That way you know the talents will be zeroed in on such things rather than being a side note to the RPG?




I believe ME needs a story driven multiplayer is because ME is such a story driven series, thats all. The multiplayer would feel empty if it didn;t have that Mass Effect cinematic quality.


RPG's are RPG's

Shooters are Shooters.

You get certain things from either one. Why however, would you play as Protheons when players would be interested in playing the other races that they've seen throughout ME1 - ME3?

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id rather have a spin off title with nothing but powers and no guns!

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MrnDvlDg161 wrote...

theelementslayer wrote...

Ok here are some helpful hints.

1) We do know Chris said that ME3 was solely singleplayer. I cant see them changing it half way well 2/3 of the way through. Co-op I dont think would work. I mean there arent 2 commander shepards.

2) however what we dont know is that what EA has planned for the after of ME3. That job advertisement would and probably could be for that. ME3 has been in development for almost 8 months by the time that article was written so I dont think they would just post the advert then.

3) Persoanlly I dont want it, not for ME3. ME4 or whatever they have planned after sure. And these ideas would work there. However here please no. Not in ME3, keep it singleplayer oreintated.


Goes back to my idea ... why do an ME4 when it could be a Mass Effect game of its own standing?  There's a lot to use to make a pretty interesting shooter ---  Resistance 2 like.  You are however, asking Bio Ware who is pretty much an RPG company to transform it self to a genre it hasn't really grasped as its core being.

I would think you would have to sell ths particular ME game to a different dev.




Absolutely, I believe a whole seperate dev team with high multiplayer experience would have to work on MEM.

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Although in my case --- why do I want someone to play a certain character on ME --- I can see it now 

" I want to play Miranda!" 

" But she isn't for this mission!" 

" I don't care --- I'm going to play Miranda" 

" Damn you need to play Thane!' 

" No --- Miranda!"

" Thane!" 

" Miranda!" 

" @#$@#$@# you then! "   --- click ---


And so ends another budding frienship in the electronic age.

Why in the world would I want someone to disrupt my adventure in ME3? I would just rather tell most to buzz off --- that sort of thing is for chatter when your trying to over-throw a group of other guys in some board with choke-hold points.

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MrnDvlDg161 wrote...

PAVELOW FO SHO wrote...

MrnDvlDg161 wrote...

PAVELOW FO SHO wrote...

MrnDvlDg161 wrote...

I think you may want multiplayer...

But I just don't think its going to be what you think it is --- there's a problem with people playing set characters with set stories and dialouge trees. Its an RPG --- with triggers, cut scenes, and a script to play.

What your probably going to see  ( if there was one)  would be a stand-alone Multiplayer aside from the main game in which you have...  how ever many levels they make whether it be a planet, ship, or base...  and your able to select different alien races and such with a few weapons.

I think there was a discussion like this before... what is the other player going to do --- click on the various character's responce trees ?  What happens to the Paragon/Renegade point system?  Its too set based to have people meddle with it in game... its going to have to be something aside from it.



Seems as if no one is reading my original post :(,

MEM should be a completely different storyline from the single player story.



Well what I'm saying is --- why does there need to be any store to it?  I should think the multiplayer would have Krogans, Salarians,  Asari ect --- multiplayer isn't for stories, its to shoot your friends up in a mindless skirmish or set competitive game.

I was more talking about some individuals who may believe they could actully co-op in a set RPG. It would be very... off shall you say.

But as a stand lone MP.  Sure... I mean it can be done.  I doubt it would be hard to do... although you know... if you really wanted MP...why not just add it to a Mass Effect FPS instead? That way you know the talents will be zeroed in on such things rather than being a side note to the RPG?




I believe ME needs a story driven multiplayer is because ME is such a story driven series, thats all. The multiplayer would feel empty if it didn;t have that Mass Effect cinematic quality.


RPG's are RPG's

Shooters are Shooters.

You get certain things from either one. Why however, would you play as Protheons when players would be interested in playing the other races that they've seen throughout ME1 - ME3?




I disagree on the Shooters are Shooters thing.
Look at COD, GOW, and Bioshock. All great shooters with a great storyline.

I advocate the protheans because theyre story would easily be cannon with the Mass Effect Universe because it takes place before the Mass Effect Series even started. The devs could do a whole lot more without worry of contradicting themselves.

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PAVELOW FO SHO wrote...

MrnDvlDg161 wrote...

PAVELOW FO SHO wrote...

MrnDvlDg161 wrote...

PAVELOW FO SHO wrote...

MrnDvlDg161 wrote...

I think you may want multiplayer...

But I just don't think its going to be what you think it is --- there's a problem with people playing set characters with set stories and dialouge trees. Its an RPG --- with triggers, cut scenes, and a script to play.

What your probably going to see  ( if there was one)  would be a stand-alone Multiplayer aside from the main game in which you have...  how ever many levels they make whether it be a planet, ship, or base...  and your able to select different alien races and such with a few weapons.

I think there was a discussion like this before... what is the other player going to do --- click on the various character's responce trees ?  What happens to the Paragon/Renegade point system?  Its too set based to have people meddle with it in game... its going to have to be something aside from it.



Seems as if no one is reading my original post :(,

MEM should be a completely different storyline from the single player story.



Well what I'm saying is --- why does there need to be any store to it?  I should think the multiplayer would have Krogans, Salarians,  Asari ect --- multiplayer isn't for stories, its to shoot your friends up in a mindless skirmish or set competitive game.

I was more talking about some individuals who may believe they could actully co-op in a set RPG. It would be very... off shall you say.

But as a stand lone MP.  Sure... I mean it can be done.  I doubt it would be hard to do... although you know... if you really wanted MP...why not just add it to a Mass Effect FPS instead? That way you know the talents will be zeroed in on such things rather than being a side note to the RPG?




I believe ME needs a story driven multiplayer is because ME is such a story driven series, thats all. The multiplayer would feel empty if it didn;t have that Mass Effect cinematic quality.


RPG's are RPG's

Shooters are Shooters.

You get certain things from either one. Why however, would you play as Protheons when players would be interested in playing the other races that they've seen throughout ME1 - ME3?




I disagree on the Shooters are Shooters thing.
Look at COD, GOW, and Bioshock. All great shooters with a great storyline.

I advocate the protheans because theyre story would easily be cannon with the Mass Effect Universe because it takes place before the Mass Effect Series even started. The devs could do a whole lot more without worry of contradicting themselves.



Look... don't get me wrong but...  you can't compare the stories of  COD, GOW --- ok...maybe Bio Shock to a certain point as that is a totally different game it itself --- but c'mon dude...  COD? GOW?  Flimsy stories at best with little to do in depth and more to do with explosions, reflexes, and  rounds.  I'm sorry... I see no comparison.

I don't see too many people talking about the complex nature of   Sgt  " Soap"  McTarvish or how hard it was to watch  Sgt. Jackson fry in a nuclear fallout.

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See this is where the Shooter/RPG war starts again --- and the whole ME2 watering down bit.