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[Spartindude]

 I'm currently on my second character for the ME trilogy and am playing as fem renagade shep infiltrator. I was wonding what kind of tips you guys might have, good armor, weapon combos etc. Right now i'm about lvl 23 in ME and only have 1 of the three main missions done (Liara)

[RenanBruno]

use the Widow Sniper rifle, it's just awesome

[Spartindude]

I used it for my solider. I loved it. But looking at the assault rifle training because I have the firepower pack and the rifle it gives just kills and I have the Incisor which is almost the same as the widow

[KenLyns]

Purchase the Titan IV armor from the jellyfish on Noveria. It has the best specs out of all the common-grade armors until you find a Colossus armor later in the game.



Personally I didn't find the Infiltrator very fun in ME1. The enemies magically see you when you enter weapons range (400 m), so you tend to get outgunned when sniping. Later on, if you choose the Commando specialization and attain master marksman with the pistol skill, the pistol becomes the most damaging weapon in the game.

[javierabegazo]

He's talking about ME1. As for tips/combos, I can't really say any, The classes in ME1 really didn't feel all that different, and pretty much concerning weapons and armor, there was either crappy, or good, and there weren't any real armor sets where you'd want to keep multiple ones of, because there was always one better than the rest. With ME2, different armors and weapons have different attributes, not just "oh this one is better" but, this one is semi auto, and this one is single, but packs a massive punch.



I'd say to acquire X level Spectre weapons early in the game is to have beaten pinacle station, and then in your apartment where you can "order" supplies through the computer, choose the most expensive one after saving, and keep reloading and choosing until you get a HWSR X Spectre sniper rifle as a prize

[Rivercurse]

I also have the firepower pack, the Mattock eclipses any other assault rifle in the game, it's true, but my infiltrator still took the widow.



The key issue is your choice of class. Infiltrator is geared towards sniping. Let your soldiers use the mattock.

[javierabegazo]

KenLyns wrote...



Personally I didn't find the Infiltrator very fun in ME1. The enemies magically see you when you enter weapons range (400 m), so you tend to get outgunned when sniping. Later on, if you choose the Commando specialization and attain master marksman with the pistol skill, the pistol becomes the most damaging weapon in the game.

Makes me REALLY appreciate all the work they did with the classes in ME2

[javierabegazo]

Rivercurse wrote...

I also have the firepower pack, the Mattock eclipses any other assault rifle in the game, it's true, but my infiltrator still took the widow.

The key issue is your choice of class. Infiltrator is geared towards sniping. Let your soldiers use the mattock.

I used Gibbed Save editor to give my Infiltrator the Mattock and the Widow rifle. ....and the Geth shotgun as well, since that essentially gives the infiltrator an infinite cloaking time, I use that to position my shepard behind all the enemies and take potshots with my Mattock and Widow

The mattock with the damage bonus from Cloaking is just amazing

[Rivercurse]

javierabegazo wrote...

Rivercurse wrote...

I also have the firepower pack, the Mattock eclipses any other assault rifle in the game, it's true, but my infiltrator still took the widow.

The key issue is your choice of class. Infiltrator is geared towards sniping. Let your soldiers use the mattock.

I used Gibbed Save editor to give my Infiltrator the Mattock and the Widow rifle. ....and the Geth shotgun as well, since that essentially gives the infiltrator an infinite cloaking time, I use that to position my shepard behind all the enemies and take potshots with my Mattock and Widow

The mattock with the damage bonus from Cloaking is just amazing

I don't doubt it Jav, but it's still cheating, no?

[KenLyns]

javierabegazo wrote...
I used Gibbed Save editor to give my Infiltrator the Mattock and the Widow rifle. ....and the Geth shotgun as well, since that essentially gives the infiltrator an infinite cloaking time, I use that to position my shepard behind all the enemies and take potshots with my Mattock and Widow
The mattock with the damage bonus from Cloaking is just amazing

Well, if you are going to do all that editing, might as well turn on ammo regen in coalesced (so it behaves like ME1's heat system) and switch to the Vindicator. According to cruz1ale's assault rifle comparison video, the Vindicator is just slightly worse than the Revenant at average DPS (5.9 sec to kill Geth Hunter vs 5.3 sec) and that's with one reload. Turn on ammo regen and the Vindicator becomes the most damaging weapon in the game. 

[tommyt_1994]

^ The mattock destroys the vindicator and revenant in pure dps. There's no way around it really. The ROF on that gun is as fast as you can pull the trigger/click the mouse

[KenLyns]

^ Depends on the situation I think. Vindicator does 110 dmg per burst, while Mattock does 50 per shot. All three shots in a Vindicator burst has a good chance of landing in one spot (like an HK G11 or AN-94), while pulsing the Mattock causes the shots to scatter (esp. if enemy is moving). At ranges where you have to go for body shots with the Mattock, you can reliably get head shots with the Vindicator. At medium ranges, with the accuracy upgrade, the Vindicator can be used without aiming down the sights, so you can run and shoot at the same time. 

Modifié par KenLyns, 16 septembre 2010 - 04:48 .

[sinosleep]

In my tests the vindicator came in well behind the mattock against armor, which itself came in well behind the viper.

Modifié par sinosleep, 16 septembre 2010 - 04:52 .

[RGFrog]

Rivercurse wrote...

I don't doubt it Jav, but it's still cheating, no?

No, it's changing the game so you can play the way you want.

Adjusting the game so you can enjoy different weapons, especially on a single player only title, is nothing more than having fun.

If you don't think it's right, don't do it. There's no one saying you have to play the game in any way other than BW's vanilla setup. But don't begrudge someone that enjoys things differently than you do. Unless it's because they love Jacob. That's not cheating. It's just plain wrong:blink:

Modifié par RGFrog, 16 septembre 2010 - 04:56 .

[sinosleep]

I think he only brought it up because it was a direct reply to something he said that was bound to the fact that Infiltrators would normally have to choose one or the other.

[RGFrog]

stuff... it's too late to try and be funny

Modifié par RGFrog, 16 septembre 2010 - 05:02 .

[lazuli]

RGFrog wrote...
There's no one saying you have to play the game in any way other than BW's vanilla setup. But don't begrudge someone that enjoys things differently than you do. Unless it's because they love Jacob. That's not cheating. It's just plain wrong:blink:

Taking a cheap shot, I see. If you need to vent about your experiences with Jacob, take it to the appropriate forum.

Uh, what were we talking about?  Is this for ME1 or ME2?  The posts seem to refer to both.

[Spartindude]

It does, like I was just looking for good item groupings. I don't have Pin Station though, so I can't do that. Though i just was more looking at good places to get better at it, like KenLyns said about the stupid outgunning thing I totally agree, right now though i'm doing pretty good, I have the Spectre pistol IV cause thats all I can get at like 26 or 27. took forever to get the cash for it. And no i'm not gonna cheat, thats just a douche move to do that.

[OniGanon]

Guys... the OP is talking about ME1.



Make taking Sniper Rifle to 9 a high priority. This is the point where your aim stops shaking like a leaf in a tornado.



Pistol and your passive are also high priority, as is Immunity. You'll just have to bring Tali, Kaiden or Garrus to unlock stuff for you.



Liara is an awesome squadmate. Don't put any points at all in her Stasis though. If you do, she can't use Overload.



Always have a decent shotgun equipped and loaded with weapon force rounds. It's useful for emergency CC.



Neural Shock is IMO the best bonus power for Infiltrator. Infiltrator's worst foe is a charging Krogan, and nothing drops them better than Neural Shock.



Save level VII weapon/ammo mods.

[Besetment]

I would actually leave snipers till last. First priority is Pistol/Marksman and Fitness/Immunity. Prerequisites are Tactical Armour (which you will probably want to take up to 7 for Medium Armour). Once you get the immunity ball rolling you basically can't ever die and with Marksman you'll have insane accuracy and rate of damage but only under Marksman. Pistol accuracy and rate of damage kind of sucks without Marksman. It is possible to get the duration high enough and cooldown low enough that you can infinitely loop both of these talents. Immunity is the quicker and easier one to do, whilst Marksman takes some late game upgrades to make it all the way.

Do Rogue VI as soon as it becomes available and pick your specialization. I mostly like to go Commando because of the cooldown reduction bonuses to Marksman and Immunity. After that, start building up tech. I'd put 1 point in Hacking as as soon as you can spare one because it rules.

If you are the type that likes to open every locked box and crate in the game then you probably want to get up to advanced decryption asap. Then steadily ramp up decryption and electronics to 9 each (for Master Sabotage and Master Overload). You'll want to do that eventually anyway but pack rats will want to do it sooner or you'll miss a couple a locked boxes early on.

Most of the tech skills are not spammable but they are all quite good with Damping being the highlight (it works on damn near everything, including the last boss). Hacking is a common bonus talent to take because there are so many synthetics in the game that you'll get good use out of it.

Snipers are not that good as a main weapon because of the time it takes for the scope to steady coupled with poor rate of fire. Even when you max out snipers you still get shaky scope for about 1 to 1.5ish seconds. You can aim and shoot whilst the scope is swaying if the target is not moving but ehhh.

What snipers are useful for is getting out of the Mako and shooting down Geth armours, rocket turrets, drones etc. (Most of these you can do faster with with a sniper rifle + the occassional master assassination than with the Mako guns and you get a boat load more exp). Pistol/Marksman is pretty much always superior unless you are so far away, you can't hit with pistols. If you use Marksman alot you'll realize that this is seriously, seriously far away because you got no recoil at all.

Modifié par Besetment, 16 septembre 2010 - 09:07 .

[OniGanon]

Hacking is pointless. It makes tech skills more spammable, but there's no point in spamming tech skills because they have long duration and an aoe the size of a small moon. Moreover, Sabotage already completely neuters Geth.



Sniper is a priority because there are many missions that are just soooo much easier when you're fighting from 200m away. Tech skills are low priority because unlocking crates can be handled by squadmates.

[Besetment]

Yeah but some people can be cranky about unlocking everything themselves. I don't get it but some people were like that on the old meforums so fair warning. If you are an obsessive compulsive packrat that wants to roll double immunity squadmates asap with shepard handling the locks then yeah. You'll probably want advanced decryption sooner rather than later. If that aint you then leave it till later though Sabotage is pretty decent. Yep it does neuter geth. So does Damping. So does Hacking. Having all 3 is great because cooldowns arent linked! 30% cooldown reduction on all your tech mines rules even if tech isn't spammable like biotics. It does make a difference that you will notice.

Main priority is still Marksman and Immunity I reckon. Marksman really is one of the most insane weapon buffs in the game - stupid damage, heat reduction and accuracy. You can literally hit a pixel sized object consistently because theres hardly any recoil and the rate of fire is mental.

Modifié par Besetment, 16 septembre 2010 - 09:27 .

[OniGanon]

A difference between 9s cooldown and 7s cooldown on a skill you'd only use once every 12s or so is really not all that noticeable.

[Besetment]

Huh? Hit up sabotage and damping whenever it becomes available. What else are you gonna spend the points on? You don't need more weapons when got Pistols and Marksman Loop and an innate passive that gives great bonus damage (Commando).

Biotics would be nice since it owns for crowd control but you are better off just outsourcing all biotics to your squadmates and focusing on doing soldiering and tech really well. I can't think of many bonus talents that are a better fit for Infiltrator than hacking. Hell in ME2 they even made it a class skill.

Modifié par Besetment, 16 septembre 2010 - 10:39 .

[Rivercurse]

RGFrog wrote...

Rivercurse wrote...

I don't doubt it Jav, but it's still cheating, no?

No, it's changing the game so you can play the way you want.

Adjusting the game so you can enjoy different weapons, especially on a single player only title, is nothing more than having fun.

If you don't think it's right, don't do it. There's no one saying you have to play the game in any way other than BW's vanilla setup. But don't begrudge someone that enjoys things differently than you do. Unless it's because they love Jacob. That's not cheating. It's just plain wrong:blink:

Personally I couldn't care less if you enjoy using you ME2 disc as a placemat, coaster, or a frisbee. If you're having fun then go for it.

You're attributing comments to me that I havent made, and assuming by extension that I 'begrudge' savegame editors, when I don't.  I've used them on many different games in my time.

My point was that whether it's fun or not, it's still cheating.  It doesn't harm anyone, but it's cheating.  Same as a trainer/infinite health would be cheating.