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[Liec]

rca626 wrote...

Okay, Version 1.13 is now available.

I modified the code to display "Didn't make it" if a lone HTL team member is the sole survivor of the FB battle. This is to differentiate between team members who actually die during the HTL battle.

I also modified the code that calculates HTL deaths to include Pacifien's algorithm for combinations of 2 and 3 HTL team members.

Let me know how it looks.

 I don't think it's working right with combinations of 2. According to Pacifien 1 character dies if the HTL score is less than 2 and greater than zero but both characters survive in the calculator. 

Also sometimes characters survive HTL when they are the only character left. 

Modifié par Liec, 06 octobre 2010 - 03:14 .

[rca626]

Liec wrote...

rca626 wrote...

Okay, Version 1.13 is now available.

I modified the code to display "Didn't make it" if a lone HTL team member is the sole survivor of the FB battle. This is to differentiate between team members who actually die during the HTL battle.

I also modified the code that calculates HTL deaths to include Pacifien's algorithm for combinations of 2 and 3 HTL team members.

Let me know how it looks.

 I don't think it's working right with combinations of 2. According to Pacifien 1 character dies if the HTL score is less than 2 and greater than zero but both characters survive in the calculator. 

Also sometimes characters survive HTL when they are the only character left. 

Thanks for letting me know. I'll take a look at it.

[rca626]

Liec wrote...

rca626 wrote...

Okay, Version 1.13 is now available.

I modified the code to display "Didn't make it" if a lone HTL team member is the sole survivor of the FB battle. This is to differentiate between team members who actually die during the HTL battle.

I also modified the code that calculates HTL deaths to include Pacifien's algorithm for combinations of 2 and 3 HTL team members.

Let me know how it looks.

 I don't think it's working right with combinations of 2. According to Pacifien 1 character dies if the HTL score is less than 2 and greater than zero but both characters survive in the calculator. 

Also sometimes characters survive HTL when they are the only character left. 

Those items should be fixed in Version 1.14. Thanks again for pointing them out! I appreciate all the help, and apologize for the bugs.

[rca626]

FYI, I've updated the PDF version of the Survival Guide to include Pacifien's findings on combinations of 2 and 3 HTL squadmates.

[CroGamer002]

Check out The Worst Import for ME3.

[Liec]

There's a bug when 3 characters hold the line and  the average is 1. One squadmate should die but everyone survives. 

[rca626]

Liec wrote...

There's a bug when 3 characters hold the line and  the average is 1. One squadmate should die but everyone survives. 

Thanks for letting me know. I'll take a look at it.

[rca626]

Liec wrote...

There's a bug when 3 characters hold the line and  the average is 1. One squadmate should die but everyone survives. 

Okay, yeah, I forgot the equals sign. Easy fix. Version 1.15 is now available.

[rca626]

Hi all,

I just found another bug in the program, but for the first time this one actually wasn't my fault.   I had a situation where everybody was loyal except Miranda, Legion, and Thane and all ship upgrades were researched (i.e., added, turned on, whatever). The HTL score was exactly 1.5, so according to the "Ultimate Guide", only 1 HTL squadmate (in this case, Miranda) was supposed to die. However, both Miranda and Legion died in-game. So it looks like the requirement for 2 squadmates to die in HTL (starting with 4 or more HTL squadmates) is for a score of less than or equal to (<) 1.5.

My question is: Is the HTL score threshold for 3 or more squadmate deaths also less than or equal to 0.5? Has anybody played an actual game with an HTL score of exactly 0.5, and if so, how many team members died? I've already upgraded my code to include the condition I described in the paragraph above, but I'd like to wait to release it until I get verification of the "0.5 HTL score" threshold. Any and all help would be appreciated.

Modifié par rca626, 11 octobre 2010 - 06:47 .

[rca626]

Hi all,

I just found another bug in the calculator, but for the first time this one actually wasn't my fault.   I had a situation where everybody was loyal except Miranda, Legion, and Thane and all ship upgrades were researched (i.e., added, turned on, whatever). The HTL score was exactly 1.5, so according to the "Ultimate Guide", only 1 HTL squadmate (in this case, Miranda) was supposed to die. However, both Miranda and Legion died in-game. So it looks like the requirement for 2 squadmates to die in HTL (starting with 4 or more HTL squadmates) is for an HTL score of less than or equal to (<) 1.5.

My question is: Is the HTL score threshold for 3 or more squadmate deaths also less than or equal to 0.5? Has anybody played an actual game with an HTL score of exactly 0.5, and if so, how many team members died? I've already upgraded my code to include the condition I described in the paragraph above, but I'd like to wait to release it until I get verification of the "0.5 HTL score" threshold. Any and all help would be appreciated.

Modifié par rca626, 11 octobre 2010 - 06:49 .

[rca626]

rca626 wrote...

Hi all,

I just found another bug in the calculator, but for the first time this one actually wasn't my fault.   I had a situation where everybody was loyal except Miranda, Legion, and Thane and all ship upgrades were researched (i.e., added, turned on, whatever). The HTL score was exactly 1.5, so according to the "Ultimate Guide", only 1 HTL squadmate (in this case, Miranda) was supposed to die. However, both Miranda and Legion died in-game. So it looks like the requirement for 2 squadmates to die in HTL (starting with 4 or more HTL squadmates) is for an HTL score of less than or equal to (<) 1.5.

My question is: Is the HTL score threshold for 3 or more squadmate deaths also less than or equal to 0.5? Has anybody played an actual game with an HTL score of exactly 0.5, and if so, how many team members died? I've already upgraded my code to include the condition I described in the paragraph above, but I'd like to wait to release it until I get verification of the "0.5 HTL score" threshold. Any and all help would be appreciated.

Okay, just for fun, I decided to play through the SM after using the calculator to determine a combination that would give me an HTL score of 0.5. The only ship upgrade I applied was the Thanix Cannon. However, when I played through the game trying the aforementioned combination, the game played like the cannon upgrade was never applied (even though I made sure I checked the Upgrades in my personal console and the cannon was listed there). When it came time to fire the cannon Shepard said, "Close in and hit them at point blank range," (paraphrased), and Thane bought the farm. No matter how many times I tried to reload and re-apply the upgrade, it still played the same way. Has anybody else encountered this? I applied the upgrade after the crew was abducted and right before going through the Omega-4 relay. I'm not sure if you need to apply it before the crew gets abducted?

In any event, I finally got frustrated so I tried another combination that gave me an HTL score of 0.5. The end result was that the calculator predicted the HTL deaths correctly, with 2 squadmates dying. So it appears that that threshold is correct.

Version 1.16 of the calculator is now available. I'd appreciate some feedback on the Thanix cannon issue. I haven't tried applying just a single other upgrade to see if the results are similar. I could always send somebody a copy of my save game file if they'd like to try it out.

Modifié par rca626, 12 octobre 2010 - 04:03 .

[db031570]

I had everyone Loyal and sent in Tali for the Vents,
Miranda  Leading Distratction group

Then Jacob leading second group
Samara for biotics

Mordin leading survivors back

Had Grunt and Zaeed for my squad

Somehow someway I lost Tali.  I am not sure what I did or did not do.  I have all upgrades, all loyalty.  Any ideas?

Did anyone else loose someone when they had everything all ready for it?

Modifié par db031570, 25 avril 2011 - 07:13 .

[AVPen]

db031570 wrote...

I had everyone Loyal and sent in Tali for the Vents,
Miranda  Leading Distratction group

Then Jacob leading second group
Samara for biotics

Mordin leading survivors back

Had Grunt and Zaeed for my squad

Somehow someway I lost Tali.  I am not sure what I did or did not do.  I have all upgrades, all loyalty.  Any ideas?

It's cause you took both Grunt and Zaeed, they're 2 of the 3 Heavies in your squad (the 3rd being Garrus)  - without at least 2 Heavy teammates left for the "Hold the Line" team, one of your weaker squadmembers will die (in your case, it was Tali).

Modifié par AVPen, 25 avril 2011 - 07:57 .

[VolusNamedBob]

This is awesome, save me having to run the numbers myself.

[rca626]

VolusNamedBob wrote...

This is awesome, save me having to run the numbers myself.

Glad you're enjoying it. It still doesn't quite work 100% correctly; I need to update it with Pacifien's combinations of 4 and then 5 or more. I just haven't gotten around to it yet. Mostly because I figured most people have gotten their fill of ME2 and are looking forward to ME3. But I should finish it, just to make it complete. I'll post a new version when I've done that. It may be awhile.

[Reever]

Damn, didn´t know bout this, and now you´ve awakened my interest xD
You better finalize the version ASAP =P (just joking, take your time, and thanks for the calculator!)

[db031570]

AVPen wrote...

db031570 wrote...

I had everyone Loyal and sent in Tali for the Vents,
Miranda  Leading Distratction group

Then Jacob leading second group
Samara for biotics

Mordin leading survivors back

Had Grunt and Zaeed for my squad

Somehow someway I lost Tali.  I am not sure what I did or did not do.  I have all upgrades, all loyalty.  Any ideas?

It's cause you took both Grunt and Zaeed, they're 2 of the 3 Heavies in your squad (the 3rd being Garrus)  - without at least 2 Heavy teammates left for the "Hold the Line" team, one of your weaker squadmembers will die (in your case, it was Tali).

To: AVPen,

Thanks for writing back.  I was going over everything and then I realized from reading posts that that was my mistake.  Unfortunately I didn't realize she was dead until my game saved and I started Arrival and noticed she was dead (redded out).  I was going to restart the suicide mission but that is not an option now.  I can only restart the Arrival mission (which was saved 515ish) in the load screen or go back to when I got Jack (in Purgatory- which was save 50ish) I think that was the last choice before Arrival in the lad screen. 

I feel really bad that I lost her. LOL.

Modifié par db031570, 26 avril 2011 - 02:01 .

[Orthug]

This is awesome, now I can figure out how to emd ME2 with only one squad member left so I can play ME3 with the same shepard but none of the original squadmembers but one

[swenson]

Orthug, that's not possible. You need two squaddies left for Shepard to survive. Check out the Worst Possible Playthrough Guide for some thoughts on how to do something like that. In that guide, she managed to make it to the end with just Morinth and Kasumi left, which will essentially accomplish the same thing as you're trying.

[MDDCORP]

A great Thanks for the program. <3<3<3 

Modifié par MDDCORP, 31 mars 2012 - 07:02 .

[rca626]

Glad you enjoy it. I'm still meaning to get to updating the program, but I guess I've been a combination of eager to get into ME3 and also a bit lazy about going back to it. I'll try to sit down soon and just get it out of the way. I'll be sure to post it when it's done.

[methu nui]

before I tried this programm, I didn't even know, that all can die. I thought, that Shepard can't die in Mass effect 2 xD:lol:

[Ashbjorn]

Can you post the sources somewhere? I'd like to make some modifications to the UI behavior so resetting doesn't mean I have to start over from scratch, I'd much rather just change the choices for the ones that end up dead till I find a solid combination that suits my Sheppard ;-)

TIA, great tool mate.

[ZombieVision]

On my first run of the suicide only grunt tail and mordin survived. I was sad when legion and garrus died

[mr jumbo snappy]

thanks