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[Busomjack]

I don't need to mutilate my body with ink to get noticed. My sexy muscles already get me plenty of attention, perhaps more than I want sometimes.

[vometia]

Gavpwn wrote...

Oh. Well I think I'll stick where I am. I don't want droopy ears when I'm an Old Man.. >_<
Some people stretch them ridiculously big but I just don't see the point in giving your ears 'Bum Holes'. Unless you're going to keep them in for life which I imagine very few people actually do. I want to be a respected Elder. Not a Freak Show. =p

In a way I agree, I think especially when you see some of those enormous stretchings you mention, some particular tattoos and things like that.  But apart from hardly being qualified to comment about other people's errors of judgement if indeed that's what they were (because I make quite enough of my own, thanks!) I saw a nice alternative way of looking at it (I forget where now, perhaps even in this thread, but I'm too tired to go searching right now) which was in essence that these things are a journal of one's life and who you were at the time.  And seeing that in a negative sense could be argued to be mistake too, perhaps the biggest of all.

But while too much regret is pointless, I guess thinking carefully beforehand averts the need to "repent at leisure", as the saying goes, as long as one remembers that life is about living rather than reaching old age to look back at a life that was free of risks rather than being well lived.  That was a bit philosophical for me, so I guess it's as well that my writing is rambling enough for any meaning to have been well and truly lost!

As for old age, I'm not sure about "respected elder" being the right thing for me.  Growing old disgracefully, perhaps.

[joey_mork84]

Busomjack wrote...

I don't need to mutilate my body with ink to get noticed. My sexy muscles already get me plenty of attention, perhaps more than I want sometimes.

There's a couple of things wrong with this post.. First, getting a tattoo is not mutilation by any definition of the word. It's only skin deep and can be removed. Secondly, people don't get tattoos for the attention (except, possibly for the occasional rebellious teenager). It's a form of self expression, just as your constant exercising or posting your distaste for body art is a form of self expression.

You're welcome for the correction

Modifié par joey_mork84, 18 janvier 2011 - 05:58 .

[Busomjack]

"to injure, disfigure, or make imperfect by removing or irreparably damaging parts"



Aren't you irreparably damaging your skin when you get a tattoo? You can get them removed but I'm pretty sure you'll still have a scar left over.

Honestly, I don't care if people get a tattoo but people who do get them should stop acting as if other people should be impressed by them. Some of them are REALLY lame. Especially the ones on native English speakers that have Kanji, or Chinese letters as if it being written in a foreign language somehow makes the message more profound.

There seems to be a bit of arrogance and pretentiousness associated with body art.

[joey_mork84]

Busomjack wrote...

"to injure, disfigure, or make imperfect by removing or irreparably damaging parts"

Aren't you irreparably damaging your skin when you get a tattoo? You can get them removed but I'm pretty sure you'll still have a scar left over.

The only way you would have a scar left over is if you had the tattoo done by someone who had no idea what they were doing and left the scar in the first place. I've seen plenty of people who had tattoos removed and not a single one had a scar for the removal.

Busomjack wrote...

Honestly, I don't care if people get a tattoo but people who do get them should stop acting as if other people should be impressed by them.

As I said above, I know a lot of ppl with tattoos (some that have had them removed), but not a single one has acted like you describe. Nobody asks you to be impressed with the tattoo. If you are, great! If not, big deal.

Busomjack wrote...

Some of them are REALLY lame. Especially the ones on native English speakers that have Kanji, or Chinese letters as if it being written in a foreign language somehow makes the message more profound.

I'll give you that one. When I see someone that has foreign letters, I scoff at it, but that's personal opinion on my part. If that's what they want, more power to them. It's still a form of art, afterall.

Busomjack wrote...

There seems to be a bit of arrogance and pretentiousness associated with body art.

Not in the least. As I've said a dozen times, its art. Its a form of self-expression. Any adult that gets a tattoo doesn't do it so they can feel as though they are better than someone who doesn't have them. If that person happens to be arrogant, then that's just the way they are. It has nothing to do with them having tattoos or not.

[Busomjack]

Being that the tattoo is located underneath the skin I don't see any way they can remove it without causing a scar since they need to remove skin tissue as well. I'm not a tattoo expert but that does seem like common sense.

I think when people get a tattoo it's like they're screaming "PLEASE! LOOK AT ME!" Expressing yourself is fine but wouldn't you rather be defined by your actions rather than your fashion sense? Personally when I see a tattoo I think either "white trash" or "hoe."

[joey_mork84]

It's only under the top few layers of skin, which shouldn't leave a scar. They only time you leave a scar is if you break the skin completely (which is why when getting a tattoo, if the artist isn't a professional, you run that chance). So, no, it shouldn't leave a scar. As I said above, everyone I've seen that had a tattoo removed had zero scarring. It was as if the tattoo was never there.

As for the second part of your post, most tattoos aren't even visible unless the person shows it off intentionally to a friend who is asking about it. Some people get the full sleeve on their arm, but as before, its not to just show off and say "Hey, look at me, I have a tattoo!". It's simply self expression, and not 'fashion sense'. We're not talking about wearing nice shoes, afterall lol.. It's really no different than a guy having a beard or not, except having a tattoo has more permanence attached to it.

[Busomjack]

Even if what you say is true it still seems like too big of a risk just to follow some fashion trend. When you say "self-expression" that gives me the impression that people who have tattoos are trying to express something to me whenever I see them. Whatever message they're trying to convey all I think when I see a tattoo is white trash. Of course not for me to decide for other people though. As I said earlier, I don't care what people choose to do to their own bodies. It's freedom of expression as I said but their tattoos do not impress me.



I see plenty of obese people who try to compensate for their physical ineptitude by looking tough with their tattoos but then they have to give themselves insulin shots because of their diabetes, it's really pathetic. People really should try to find different forms of self-expression. Tattoos make people look like they're trying to compensate for seomthing.

[Busomjack]

Strangely Brown wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

Being that the tattoo is located underneath the skin I don't see any way they can remove it without causing a scar since they need to remove skin tissue as well. I'm not a tattoo expert but that does seem like common sense.
I think when people get a tattoo it's like they're screaming "PLEASE! LOOK AT ME!" Expressing yourself is fine but wouldn't you rather be defined by your actions rather than your fashion sense? Personally when I see a tattoo I think either "white trash" or "hoe."

This only applies to people who have tattoos in very visible places.  What about those who have them well concealed and for the most part invisible to others?

If I don't see the tattoo obviously I'm not going to have an opinion of it.

[Moondoggie]

Busomjack wrote...

Being that the tattoo is located underneath the skin I don't see any way they can remove it without causing a scar since they need to remove skin tissue as well. I'm not a tattoo expert but that does seem like common sense.
I think when people get a tattoo it's like they're screaming "PLEASE! LOOK AT ME!" Expressing yourself is fine but wouldn't you rather be defined by your actions rather than your fashion sense? Personally when I see a tattoo I think either "white trash" or "hoe."

Amusing coming from a person who needs to overcompensate in everything from body mass to having the most expensive PC components XD.

[vometia]

Moondoggie wrote...

Amusing coming from a person who needs to overcompensate in everything from body mass to having the most expensive PC components XD.

Or by trolling, depending.  Well, at least the topic was interesting before the inevitable "mutilation" side-track...

[Busomjack]

Moondoggie wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

Being that the tattoo is located underneath the skin I don't see any way they can remove it without causing a scar since they need to remove skin tissue as well. I'm not a tattoo expert but that does seem like common sense.
I think when people get a tattoo it's like they're screaming "PLEASE! LOOK AT ME!" Expressing yourself is fine but wouldn't you rather be defined by your actions rather than your fashion sense? Personally when I see a tattoo I think either "white trash" or "hoe."

Amusing coming from a person who needs to overcompensate in everything from body mass to having the most expensive PC components XD.

Oh snap!  You got me there girl!  Only my exercise routine is much more about my career(I'm a personal trainer) and my feeling of overall wellness since exercise makes me feel good.  My expensive PC is out of a desire to play good games.

Tattoos on the other hand like the tattoo you no doubt have on your lower back are only about aesthetics.

In any case, I just wanted to give my two cents about tattoos and why I don't have any.  I didn't intend to sidetrack this thread so with that said I'm dropping it here.

Modifié par Busomjack, 18 janvier 2011 - 06:47 .

[joey_mork84]

Busomjack wrote...

Even if what you say is true it still seems like too big of a risk just to follow some fashion trend. When you say "self-expression" that gives me the impression that people who have tattoos are trying to express something to me whenever I see them. Whatever message they're trying to convey all I think when I see a tattoo is white trash. Of course not for me to decide for other people though. As I said earlier, I don't care what people choose to do to their own bodies. It's freedom of expression as I said but their tattoos do not impress me.

As I said, they're not there to impress anyone, so if you're not impressed, then ok lol.. Not much to say about that..

Busomjack wrote...

I see plenty of obese people who try to compensate for their physical ineptitude by looking tough with their tattoos but then they have to give themselves insulin shots because of their diabetes, it's really pathetic. People really should try to find different forms of self-expression. Tattoos make people look like they're trying to compensate for seomthing.

I doubt very seriously that they got them *after* gaining weight or that their weight had anything to do with their decision to get one. And its not about looking tough, as you put it. As been stated, most tattoos aren't even visible. Either way, wieght has nothing to do with it. That's like saying someone grew a pony tail because they were over-weight.

[Tooneyman]

Lmao, Busomjack making tattos sound corny. Whats funny is I knew everyone would get kind of huffy bout it. lol. ITs cool, Busomjack you can state your opinion any time. Please do!  You make the atmosphere more diverse.

Modifié par Tooneyman, 19 janvier 2011 - 12:26 .

[joey_mork84]

I'm all for diversity on the subject, but to call it mutilation is taking it further than simply one's opinion. That was my point. Making it sound as negative a thing as you possibly can is not just an opinion.

[Gavpwn]

I think you Guys should all calm down. At the end of the day it's the person's choice whether or not to get a Tattoo or Piercing and whether or not they actually like the idea of them. Self righteous people who proclaim they know everything and think they're right are clearly some of the most sheltered people I've ever encountered on this Forum. (Yes, I'm looking at you Busomjack.) Fair enough you have your opinion but let's keep it at that. Is there really any need for Trolling and arguments? A heated discussion is healthy and so is friendly banter but actually insulting someone for the choice they have made in there life is too far.