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[Major Truth]

Obviously with the exception of the Ash/Kaidan situation on Virmire, your Shepard has had the power to keep his squad alive in his own hands. Personally so far, thats been the way I wanted it as I want to see the characters develop right up to ME3.

But as ME3 is the last in the trilogy surely that has to change. My own personal view is that their has to be some kind of collatoral damage. I'm all for happy endings but absolutely everyone surviving just dosen't hold true for the situation

My own hope is that we're faced with decisions like the one we had to make on Horizon. That was one of the highlights of the ME series so far,

I'm hoping that through decisions made, Shepard can influence who survives and who dosen't but I do feel their has to be some casualties.

Bioware have said ME3 will be the darkest of the series, could this mean allot of funerals for Shepard ?

[Major Truth]

Shandepared wrote...

Frankly, I think the suicide mission should have had some mandatory collateral damage.

Yes I agree. Do you think that it should have been random or do you think squadmates should have been sacrificed based on your decisions?

[GodWood]

Shandepared wrote...
Frankly, I think the suicide mission should have had some mandatory collateral damage.

As do I.
I could deliberately have some companions die for dramatic reasons but that'd require me to have my Shepard make some too obviously stupid decisions which would break character.

[Fiery Phoenix]

I think we just need more Virmire-like missions. I still to this day remember every single time I played through Virmire and how emotionally engaging and well done it was. I don't think it's because of the inevitable sacrifice though (not necessarily), but there's SOMETHING about Vimire that only makes me want to see more of its kind.

[Sith_exar_kun]

I  don't like seeing my squad mates die!

Modifié par Sith_exar_kun, 18 septembre 2010 - 02:44 .

[Major Truth]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

I think we just need more Virmire-like missions. I still to this day remember every single time I played through Virmire and how emotionally engaging and well done it was. I don't think it's because of the inevitable sacrifice though (not necessarily), but there's SOMETHING about Vimire that only makes me want to see more of its kind.

Yep, the Virmire situation was done very well. I think its because there's no right or wrong answer as to what to do. You can think of multiple reasons to go back to the person arming the bomb and multiple reasons to go to the towers. Its still the standout mission for me in ME

[krimesh]

Sith_exar_kun wrote...

I  don't like seeing my squad mates die!

Then you at least need a different name.

Modifié par krimesh, 18 septembre 2010 - 03:09 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

Remarkably, that's exactly what I suggested in one of Ecael's thread a while back, Shand. That there should have been a sniper expert role in the suicide mission where Thane could participate.

Modifié par FieryPhoenix7, 18 septembre 2010 - 03:10 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

Shandepared wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Remarkably, that's exactly what I suggested in one of Ecael's thread a while back. That there should have been a sniper expert role in the suicide mission where Thane could participate.

I think a lot of people have suggested that. I figured it might work even better though if the sniper position isn't really just a sniper position.

Your options would be Garrus, Thane, Legion, and Zaeed.

However near the end of the mission they need to extract themselves to the Normandy, and so only Thane and Legion have the skills to safely evade the Collectors/husks and get back safely. Garrus and Zaeed however get overrun and go down in a blaze of glory.

Aw, that would've been a brilliant addition!

[Xilizhra]

Dramatic squadmate deaths wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, but I like all of the tech specialists too much to want any of them to die... perhaps both fire team leaders could be doomed, and if you choose the wrong tech/leader, they both die instead?

[Major Truth]

I'm hoping that at the end of ME3 their is only Shepard and a max of 5 squadmates from ME1 and ME2 that survive (and I could handle Shepard dying)

[Xilizhra]

I didn't have much emotional attachment to either Ashley or Kaidan; I just save whomever is at the AA tower so I can pick up the salarian team too. Now, if it had been a choice between Garrus and Tali... that would have carried impact (one of them with Liara would have had an impact as well, but it'd be a non-choice in reality).



Legion's arc, though, is definitely not complete, and nor is Tali's. Not when you consider the looming quarian/geth issue. In fact, the only people I can see dying in the base as part of their arc are Miranda, Jack, Samara and Thane.

[Major Truth]

Shandepared wrote...

That's exaclty why some of them SHOULD die!

If you hated Wrex, Ashley, and Kaidan then the mission to Virmire would have been a big letdown. Dramatic deaths only work when the player/viewer/reader likes the characters.

Agree with you again 100% -  I hate to see squadmates die but thats why it adds to the experience. I hate Kaidan as a character and still didnt want him to die, if I had actually had any kind of connection to him as a character it would have been 100 times better. If I had to choose between Tali and Garrus I'd still probably be in front of the xbox weighing it up

Xilizhra wrote...

I didn't have much emotional attachment to either Ashley or Kaidan; I just save whomever is at the AA tower so I can pick up the salarian team too. Now, if it had been a choice between Garrus and Tali... that would have carried impact (one of them with Liara would have had an impact as well, but it'd be a non-choice in reality).
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Yep thats exactly the point. Who would you have picked between Garrus and Tali? I bet it would have taken you a bit of time  to choose. And then you would have had to tell them and hear their responce. That only adds to the experience

Shepard: I'm sorry Garrus, I had to make a choice
Garrus: Its been one hell of a ride Shepard
Shpeard: One hell of a ride? Is that a dig at me cause I'm ******* Tali
Garrus: What ? Your ******* Tali. Is thay why chose her? I can't believe.............................BANG

Modifié par Major Truth, 18 septembre 2010 - 03:39 .

[Xilizhra]

Honestly, there I would have chosen whomever was at the AA tower as well. If I can save more lives one way, it's a good reason to put aside personal feelings.

[Major Truth]

Xilizhra wrote...

Honestly, there I would have chosen whomever was at the AA tower as well. If I can save more lives one way, it's a good reason to put aside personal feelings.

and if it wasn't on Virmire with no other lives at stake, just a straight choice ?

[Xilizhra]

It may have been Garrus. He's my Shepard's second-in-command and best platonic friend, anyway... I'd feel rather terrible about it, though. Possibly Shepard's lines to Jacob and Miranda about leaving a friend to die on Virmire would have carried more impact.

[Major Truth]

Xilizhra wrote...

It may have been Garrus. He's my Shepard's second-in-command and best platonic friend, anyway... I'd feel rather terrible about it, though. Possibly Shepard's lines to Jacob and Miranda about leaving a friend to die on Virmire would have carried more impact.

Yep exactly. I think I would have left Garrus. I didn't like him as much in ME1 as I did in ME2. As I said killing Kaidan was an easy choice

Do you not think it would be good having to make a choice like that. Particularly for characters that have been with you in all three games

[Xilizhra]

It'd be interesting, certainly, but the only way I'd ever let Liara die is if she turns evil somehow and I have to hunt her down. Aside from that... it could be good drama, yes.

[PsyrenY]

Funnily enough, I like having the ability to save everyone. It made my Shepard feel extremely badass. Not to mention the IFF has been floating around for 37 MILLION YEARS. There's no reason to go rushing off to grab it with a half-cocked and unprepared team; a very valuable lesson in my opinion.



For those of you who want those dramatic deaths, there's a wonderful guide on these forums that lets you choose exactly who lives and who dies during the SM.

[Major Truth]

Shandepared wrote...

I think I'm one of the only people in the world who liked Kaidan and Ashley. In fact my first play through Kaidan was my favorite character, mainly because he was one of the only characters I felt my Shepard had actually become friends with. (the other being Wrex)

Still, I left him to die for the same reason Xilizhra goes to the AA tower.

Though in subsequent playthroughs I always save whoever is at the bomb (which tends to be Ashley) because my priority is making sure he bomb goes off. Of-course, by this point I'm fond of all the characters.

As characters I loved Ashley but I never took to Kaidan. I've never let Kaidan live, even afrer about 8 playthroughs.

In my first playthrough I had no idea it was just a straight choice. Ashley was at the AA towers and Kaidan was with the bomb. I went to the AA towers because it was Ash that was their and also I saw little sense in running towards an armed nuculer bomb

I must admit saving the Salarians never entered my head until  Xilizhra said it just their