Modifié par Whatever666343431431654324, 19 septembre 2010 - 07:34 .
lolwot wrote...
To be more clear, I'm not specifically clamoring for mandatory squadmate deaths alone, although that would be appropriate in a suicide mission.
Also, I buy into the idea that it's a suicide mission because it's framed that way by the narrative. Practically every line about going through the Omega 4 relay blatantly tells the player that this is a suicide mission and it's unlikely for anyone to survive. That's just about all the information you have about this unknown voyage until the end of the game, when you find out that a single ship and its crew has enough firepower to annihilate all of the Collectors without any repercussions.
Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...
Oh, I think it was universally agreed upon that ME3 needs a lot of good party banter. But ME2 has all sorts of jokes happening, from Jokers lines in the cockpit and the Collector attack to Krogan and fish to Volus buying sex toys. Other than banter, I don't think they need a lot more unless they plan on adding a laugh track.
Of course, not all banter is there to be funny. Some do need to be angry. I would have loved hearing Jack and Miranda sniping at each other the whole mission.
But I really think when he said a lot more darkness and humour is that it would continue. Your decisions from ME1 and ME2 would come home to roost and some decisions might be kind of bleak. I don't think it meant ME3 would be gorier or they would slaughter your team.
Nageth wrote...
Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...
Oh, I think it was universally agreed upon that ME3 needs a lot of good party banter. But ME2 has all sorts of jokes happening, from Jokers lines in the cockpit and the Collector attack to Krogan and fish to Volus buying sex toys. Other than banter, I don't think they need a lot more unless they plan on adding a laugh track.
Of course, not all banter is there to be funny. Some do need to be angry. I would have loved hearing Jack and Miranda sniping at each other the whole mission.
But I really think when he said a lot more darkness and humour is that it would continue. Your decisions from ME1 and ME2 would come home to roost and some decisions might be kind of bleak. I don't think it meant ME3 would be gorier or they would slaughter your team.
I'm just looking for a better balance. There were barely any moments not filled with angst. Here is an example of the problem. ME1 opens with a comic relief death of "Leeroy" Jenkins and in ME2 it's a story of Jenkins while getting drunk on the ship. ME1 had the light moments in the combat game while ME2 had them mostly on the ship, they were usually filled with nostalgia (leaving the people who haven't played ME1 going eh) and often kind of angsty. I think the only funny joke not on the Normandy was when you told the cop not to go on a suicide mission and your teammates scoffed at it.
lolwot wrote...
To be more clear, I'm not specifically clamoring for mandatory squadmate deaths alone, although that would be appropriate in a suicide mission.
Also, I buy into the idea that it's a suicide mission because it's framed that way by the narrative. Practically every line about going through the Omega 4 relay blatantly tells the player that this is a suicide mission and it's unlikely for anyone to survive. That's just about all the information you have about this unknown voyage until the end of the game, when you find out that a single ship and its crew has enough firepower to annihilate all of the Collectors without any repercussions.
wiggles89 wrote...
Shandepared wrote...
By all means, tell me about your favorite tale that was dramatic and nobody died.
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You can save Kirrahe's team either way, as long as you helped him out on the way there...Xilizhra wrote... I just save whomever is at the AA tower so I can pick up the salarian team too
Modifié par Ultai, 19 septembre 2010 - 11:31 .
Zulmoka531 wrote...
I believe the character you choose to sacrifice does a "hold the line" type of scenario as to save everyone but themselves. Anyways as to not get off topic..
You know for sure if there were Virmire type situations re-introduced into ME3 everyone would just let go of their least favorite characters. Poor Kaiden never got the time of day in my ME1 and was toast as soon as the option came up. I didn't enjoy doing this mind you.
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Moiaussi wrote...
The odds have to be stacked in favour of Shepard or it isn't a game, just a cut scene of the squad's death.
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Shandepared wrote...
Moiaussi wrote...
The odds have to be stacked in favour of Shepard or it isn't a game, just a cut scene of the squad's death.
The odds need to be fairly balanced for the player, with the player even having the advantage. The reason for this is that the player needs to be having fun. If you want the odds stacked against you play on Hardcore or Insanity, even then, you'll win because you aren't a dumb video game.
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Moiaussi wrote...
Given that, I am not sure that any 'guaranteed' deaths would really add anything that would help.
Not knocking your suggestions. Some of them would be pretty good in a better setting.
Fun, it was, but we both had to tell my son, aged about 7 that in Unreal Tournament games, he should not kill his Mum immediately she respawns every time, as I will soon not want to play with him!
Modifié par Zan51, 20 septembre 2010 - 04:03 .
Shandepared wrote...
Moiaussi wrote...
Given that, I am not sure that any 'guaranteed' deaths would really add anything that would help.
Not knocking your suggestions. Some of them would be pretty good in a better setting.
I suppose I agree with everything you've said. The game could use a rewrite over all. Fewer characters, better antagonists and more interaction with them, and a real suicide mission that if you survive you do so having been beaten to a pulp, with your survival being a miracle.
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Moiaussi wrote...
Or at least characters that take the threat seriously. Still not sure that it needs to be a suicide mission, or that such a term should even be used in the middle installment of anything. The term was used gratuitously enough in ME1. After Illos and Sovereign, the attitude should be at least a little more cocky. Which might actually be better drama if it did turn out to resemble a suicide mission.
Modifié par Zulmoka531, 20 septembre 2010 - 04:24 .
Nimander wrote...
See, I honestly doubt they're going to require people to play all three games to get a 'good' ending. That would be really frustrating for people who buy the game fresh, and they keep saying they want to make the game good for those people as well.
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