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Crippledcarny wrote...

I don't even think Karpyshyn has an account on these forums. It's like their hiding it from him or something!!!1

He does.

And as far as I can tell, he's only made a single post since he registered, which was when ME: Retribution first came out. Since then, I haven't seen him around.

It's pretty sad that the ME writers aren't as active as the DA writes with their fans. I wish they would show up every now and then and tell us a thing or two.

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idk, I think if I were a Mass Effect writer I would want to avoid some of the Mass Effect fans as well.

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Crippledcarny wrote...

idk, I think if I were a Mass Effect writer I would want to avoid some of the Mass Effect fans as well.

Um, Mr. Gaider doesn't. And I don't think DA's story is any less complicated than ME's. :innocent:

Anyway, Drew did mention in his own blog that he lurks around the forums and just reads, but never posts.

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 Not to mention, Luke has worked on both Dragon Age and Mass Effect, so does he have to fight himself in the final battle?


But he doesn't know that, and that will be his sodding downfall:devil:

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FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Crippledcarny wrote...

idk, I think if I were a Mass Effect writer I would want to avoid some of the Mass Effect fans as well.

Um, Mr. Gaider doesn't. And I don't think DA's story is any less complicated than ME's. :innocent:

Anyway, Drew did mention in his own blog that he lurks around the forums and just reads, but never posts.


Safer that way.

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slimgrin wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Crippledcarny wrote...

idk, I think if I were a Mass Effect writer I would want to avoid some of the Mass Effect fans as well.

Um, Mr. Gaider doesn't. And I don't think DA's story is any less complicated than ME's. :innocent:

Anyway, Drew did mention in his own blog that he lurks around the forums and just reads, but never posts.


Safer that way.

If you say so.... ^_^

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All the DA writers would have to do is drag the ME writers onto the DA forums. Within a day, the ME writers would have such low self esteem, they would happily lemming themselves off a cliff.

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ME writer win



Because Kinetic Barrier and bazooka beat Sword

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Mary Kirby wrote...

And I'm pretty sure I once saw Chris Hepler rob a bank and save a puppy at the same time.


Seems like "Black Wings" by Tom Waits, or a character of "On the road" ;-)

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I demand a "Yo Mama" face-off.

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On the old forums Patrick Weekes used to post a lot, and really good stuff as well. A few other developers used to post quite a bit too. As soon as the forums switched to BioWare Social, they all seemed to drop off the face of the Earth.

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JakePT wrote...

On the old forums Patrick Weekes used to post a lot, and really good stuff as well. A few other developers used to post quite a bit too. As soon as the forums switched to BioWare Social, they all seemed to drop off the face of the Earth.

I know; it's unfortunate. I would love to see them do that again.

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Mass Effect is still in the making, so maybe that's the reason the writers don't show up in here. They would have to be very careful about what they say, since ME1,2&3 are strongly connected - unlike DA:O and DA2, say.

But if they want to be good to the ME community they will have to redeem themselves by talking to us here after ME3. In my opinion the ME story line is a very good one, and it would be fun to discuss it with the actual writers when all is over.

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krimesh wrote...

Mass Effect is still in the making, so maybe that's the reason the writers don't show up in here. They would have to be very careful about what they say, since ME1,2&3 are strongly connected - unlike DA:O and DA2, say.

But if they want to be good to the ME community they will have to redeem themselves by talking to us here after ME3. In my opinion the ME story line is a very good one, and it would be fun to discuss it with the actual writers when all is over.

That's a valid point, Krim, and I thought that might be why after all.

I expect them to show up once ME3 has been officially announced; basically the time period separating the announcement and the release of ME3, like DA2 right now.

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FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Crippledcarny wrote...

I don't even think Karpyshyn has an account on these forums. It's like their hiding it from him or something!!!1

He does.

And as far as I can tell, he's only made a single post since he registered, which was when ME: Retribution first came out. Since then, I haven't seen him around.

It's pretty sad that the ME writers aren't as active as the DA writes with their fans. I wish they would show up every now and then and tell us a thing or two.


Here, I agree with Fiery.

Just as Mary posted something funny here, she lets the community know that she reads the forums, it wasn't game or story related but we feel she cares!   :wub:


I'm not asking for spoilers from writers just that it would be great if they were part of the ME Bioware community.

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I want to see David Gaider arm wrestle Drew Karpyshyn. The winner will be... supreme wryter of the universe.

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slimgrin wrote...

I want to see David Gaider arm wrestle Drew Karpyshyn. The winner will be... supreme wryter of the universe.


www.youtube.com/watch


But in all seriousness, I would like the ME writers to just discuss things with us more. Lore things and all that? Yeah, the ME forums don't get that sometimes as good or as extensively as the DA: forums do on a fairly decently regular basis.

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Krytheos wrote...
But in all seriousness, I would like the ME writers to just discuss things with us more. Lore things and all that? Yeah, the ME forums don't get that sometimes as good or as extensively as the DA: forums do on a fairly decently regular basis.


In all seriousness, us developer folk have varying tolerances for the forums. Some just like to watch but are hesitant to interact, some are just too busy, some are wary about what it's "safe" to talk about and so err on the side of caution... and some think it's crazy-making like having five loud people piled into the back seat of your car with each one shouting different directions while simultaneously criticizing your driving. And then a sixth calls you on your cellphone just to troll you.

It's all completely voluntary on our part whether we come here and interact or not-- all of us on DA2 who do it do so on our own time (and recognizance). If there's more of us who do it it's probably because we talk about it more among ourselves. It's just a project culture thing, I think (which is totally a real thing, believe it or not), and I would never think of suggesting to them that they should dive into the Crazy Pool more often... any more than I'd want them to suggest we should dive into it less.

Which, quite frankly, is the far more sensible course of action. ;)

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To be fair, Patrick Weekes was always posting on the forums during ME2's buildup. They just disappeared after the game was released.

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Fans rightfully criticised ME2's poor story, continuity, lack of respect for previous characters, and terrible implementation of much hyped consequences of choices carrying over from Mass Effect and the writers ran to the hills to drink champagne with "professional" critics.

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WilliamShatner wrote...

Fans rightfully criticised ME2's poor story, continuity, lack of respect for previous characters, and terrible implementation of much hyped consequences of choices carrying over from Mass Effect and the writers ran to the hills to drink champagne with "professional" critics.


Why wouldn't the writers come by and talk to rays of sunshine and politesse like this fellow?

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WilliamShatner wrote...
Fans rightfully criticised ME2's poor story, continuity, lack of respect for previous characters, and terrible implementation of much hyped consequences of choices carrying over from Mass Effect and the writers ran to the hills to drink champagne with "professional" critics.


Hey, if enough DA fans get themselves worked up into a self-entitled frenzy after DA2 comes out, such that they make it extremely unpleasant for us to be anywhere near these forums, expect us to do the same.

DaringMoosejaw wrote...
Why wouldn't the writers come by and talk to rays of sunshine and politesse like this fellow?


Indeed. There's a lot of people who seem to think that because they're right it shouldn't matter how much of an ass they're acting like. If someone walked up to me on the street and started yelling in my face, with little bits of spittle flying out of their mouths, I doubt I'd want to hang around and chat with them either. I don't care how "right" they think they are.

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Just know that some of us really love you, David.

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WilliamShatner wrote...

Fans rightfully criticised ME2's poor story, continuity, lack of respect for previous characters, and terrible implementation of much hyped consequences of choices carrying over from Mass Effect and the writers ran to the hills to drink champagne with "professional" critics.

And this is why some of us fans can't have nice things like the writers coming over to chat over tea and crumpets... Really I can't blame them for disappearing if that's the attitude they're still getting.

Modifié par Nyaore, 19 septembre 2010 - 06:27 .


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Nyaore wrote...

WilliamShatner wrote...

Fans rightfully criticised ME2's poor story, continuity, lack of respect for previous characters, and terrible implementation of much hyped consequences of choices carrying over from Mass Effect and the writers ran to the hills to drink champagne with "professional" critics.

And this is why us fans can't have nice things like the writers coming over to chat over tea and crumpets... Really I can't blame them for disappearing if that's the attitude they're still getting.


If the writers and makers of the game can take praise from me calling Mass Effect the best game I have ever played then they can equally take criticism when I call ME2 the most disappointing and soul-crushing sequel since Alien 3.

You can't take one and leave the other.