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[Meltemph]

intelligent posters

Very rare. Most "intelligent posters" want the actual design philosophy either explained or changed for them, quite ridiculous really, specially on these forums. If most were actually talking about smart additions to the game I would agree, but most of it is complaining about the actual direction of the game. After that point, it becomes a decision of deciding whether or not you want to buy the game.



At that point, sure complain about the game, just don't get all pissy when you(not necessarily you, I mean you as in anyone) get ignored or called out.

[ankuu]

I really hate how some people demand the devs to come right here and talk to them. Or to listen them whining...mostly. How they demand answers and criticize b4 even finding out if it's the case or not. Like the people saying "I am not going to buy DA2 because Hawke is human!". Okay what about the story/gamplay etc.? I wonder what these guys do when they buy a carton of milk they don't like. Demand the cow to come and confront them?



I appreciate what the DA writers share with us and i do kinda feel bad that the ME writers don't really talk to us fans. I would like to know more about the lore but i won't go and yell at them "Come here you--!"



If the battle involves cookies and nutella, i am up for it!

[David Gaider]

ankuu wrote...
I appreciate what the DA writers share with us and i do kinda feel bad that the ME writers don't really talk to us fans. I would like to know more about the lore but i won't go and yell at them "Come here you--!"

Glad you appreciate it-- and I do try to respond to the more positive posts more than the other kind, but it's hard not to become engaged sometimes even if it's not really healthy. We who work on the game feel invested in what we create even more than the fans do (that's not meant as a slight, I think that should go without saying really) so that's why we come and read even if not all of us post.

I've had my coffee now, and my afternoon workout-- so it's easier to be positive. Sorry if I got snippy earlier.

[Pritos]

We forgive you.

[Lorianno]

Gaider given them dat bidness. Represent.

[zahra]

So.... no "Yo Mama" face-off? I demand a showdown of some sort dammit! Otherwise the thread title is misleading! I hate misleading thread titles! How dare you people turn this into some sort of peaceful discussion! This is my fifth exclamation mark!



*stomps off in a rage*

[David Gaider]

zahra wrote...
*stomps off in a rage*

Haters gonna hate. 

[Chrumpek]

I for one appreciate when devs make their stand in the forums.

Anyways just wanted to say here - I never really liked baldurs gate, or Kotor - although I like star wars in general.
But I tried dragon age and I got totally into the story and gameplay. Same with mass effect and appreciated the changes that came with mass effect 2. Of course I can find some lil buggers but still a definite improvement for me.
So I can't wait, seriously, can't wait for dragon age 2 and for all that it will offer, I can only hope that it will make the story as intense as in the origins (I felt like it was an important main storyline and danger was everywhere with no time to rest).

Also it's just my opinion but I love the DLC support - whether you like the DLCs or not you gotta be happy that the company makes them and supports the game even so long after the release.

Keep up the good work

Modifié par Chrumpek, 19 septembre 2010 - 08:52 .

[javierabegazo]

Awwh, we love you David Gaider I must say, I've NEVER heard of the lead writer of a video game spending as much time with us fans as you have.

[zahra]

David Gaider wrote...

zahra wrote...
*stomps off in a rage*

Haters gonna hate. 

*shakes fist at u in true hater-stylez*

[Lorianno]

Hey Dave, if I can call you Dave,

Spoiler

Out of curiosity, I recall you posting something along the lines of "How would you expect Morrigan to react if you did come after her? Somehow I don't think it would be a fairy tale ending." and yet, that happened (mind you, I rather enjoyed that) so I have to ask. Were you involved for the writing of the Witch Hunt DLC? Or any of the DLC for that matter? Or just the main story arcs?

Modifié par Lorianno, 19 septembre 2010 - 08:53 .

[Crippledcarny]

javierabegazo wrote...

Awwh, we love you David Gaider I must say, I've NEVER heard of the lead writer of a video game spending as much time with us fans as you have.

But it isn't enough! If he truly cared he would be personally calling me several times a day to listen to my thoughts ranging from world government theories to how to make the purfect ham sandwich.

Modifié par Crippledcarny, 19 septembre 2010 - 09:08 .

[ciaweth]

WilliamShatner wrote...

I don't expect writers to respond to me personally but considering a large portion of the community also feel the same/similarly I would expect a general response.  They did for Mass Effect and are doing so for Dragon Age and DA2.

Before ME2 was released and people were voicing their concerns over the revealed information the writers said trust us and judge us after you've played the game.  Well we played the game 9 months ago now, wrote countless novels worth on these forums about it and there has been not a peep from the writers.  It seems fine and dandy to post when you want to sell the game to people, but once it comes out and fans have been very disappointed by it then it's time to disappear.

So, let me get this straight.  The Mass Effect devs don't want to interact with a guy who:
- claims to represent the interests of a "large portion" of the ME fanbase, yet routinely gets smacked down by multiple other fans each time he posts about his disappointment with ME2
- feels that the way to make someone listen to his point is to write "countless novels"

Man.  What a bunch of weirdos.  <_<

[ankuu]

javierabegazo wrote...

Awwh, we love you David Gaider I must say, I've NEVER heard of the lead writer of a video game spending as much time with us fans as you have.

True! True true true. x10

[AmstradHero]

slimgrin wrote...

Meltemph wrote...

You know what what? If you want to cherry pick the the most offensive posts then don't bother. Maybe Drew Karpyshyn has the right idea.

Or you could do the same seeing as most want to see them around, where as most would be perfectly happy not seeing your cheery disposition.

Hey, if all I did was respond to people picking on poor ol' me... 

All I'm saying is they have a choice here: feel sorry for yourself or answer the intelligent posters... or don't answer at all, maybe that is best.

Ohh, come on, slimgrin. They were a couple of cheap shots and you know it. David responds to all kinds of posts, both positive and negative. Can you really blame a developer for getting annoyed at "criticism" that simply says "Your game sucks and I don't like it"?

I honestly don't blame any developer for not participating in discussion on their website forum. I'm exceedingly happy that a number of people from the Dragon Age franchise do. They do it on their own time, and endure abuse and vitriol because of it.

Most players are not game designers and don't comprehend how a game is created. Players can make suggestions all they want, and designers could point out reasons and decisions that these choices were not made. Ultimately, comprehensive developer responses would probably end up going into a lot more depth than the person complaining wanted, and likely wouldn't appease them anyway because FEATURE X is still missing from "their" game.

[danien.grey]

AmstradHero wrote...
I honestly don't blame any developer for not participating in discussion on their website forum. I'm exceedingly happy that a number of people from the Dragon Age franchise do. They do it on their own time, and endure abuse and vitriol because of it.

QFT.

My own advice to the Developers: There is no panacea for human stupidity and bigotry.  Continue to ignore it; your sanity will thank you.

Modifié par danien.grey, 20 septembre 2010 - 12:50 .

[Koralis]

Hulk Hsieh wrote...

Who worked on Mordin in ME2?
I think Mordin is the best writen characters in both series so far.

Agreed!   Mordin is awesome.


Especially the "Scientist Salarian" number.  Hahaha!

[Fishy]

It's like those people who pretend not understand just to get attention.

[KennethAFTopp]

For what it is worth, I loved Mass Effect 2.

[atheelogos]

Well Drew K is busy with star wars, so thats one reason as to why he's not here.

[Chubbs70000000]

Both were awesome.

[dislye]

actually, before ME2 was released a LOT of the ME2 devs came into the forum regularly. (especially when the ME2 was up and running) once the game was released they got quiet (and who could blame them with people yelling and screaming at them?) They warned everyone in the ME2 site if people became TOO much of a bother they were no longer going to join in. What do you know? They did EXACTLY what they said they would do, and I do not blame them.