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[FuturePasTimeCE]

 :owould be awesome...

dude they should do a DLC with sheperd doing a mission for a team of spectres (Quarian, Asari, Turians, and another Human)...

a commando unit trying to stop a rogue mercenary group (eclipse) from deploying geth on a planetary colony... 

off topic:
lair of the shadow broker was like playing a mass effect version of minority report (perfect elements to add)...pure awesomeness

T'Soni for Spectre...  (a shadow broker+spectre = kick ass)

[Ashrite]

they arnt any quarian specters. They only choose a specter from there race.

Modifié par Ashrite, 19 septembre 2010 - 08:59 .

[FuturePasTimeCE]

Shandepared wrote...

I really doubt there are any quarian Spectres concerning they don't even have an embassy.

they can make anyone a spectre, right?

[Whereto]

im quite sure they cant as they are not a citadel race anymore. Much like the krogan

[Ashrite]

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

Shandepared wrote...

I really doubt there are any quarian Spectres concerning they don't even have an embassy.

they can make anyone a spectre, right?

Only the ones that have a embasy

[FuturePasTimeCE]

Ashrite wrote...

they arnt any quarian specters. They only choose a specter from there race.

eh, they'd likely make a hanar spectre first:(

[FuturePasTimeCE]

Whereto wrote...

im quite sure they cant as they are not a citadel race anymore. Much like the krogan

 the council could reinstate them as a council race if they deal with the whole geth issue accordingly

[GodWood]

Didn't think this through did ya?

[FuturePasTimeCE]

GodWood wrote...

Didn't think this through did ya?

one can hope. just for the sake of entertaiment

[FuturePasTimeCE]

Shandepared wrote...

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

they can make anyone a spectre, right?

They can, yes, but I don't think they would. Humanity getting a Spectre was a big deal. The majority of Spectres are most certainly from the Council races. A minority of Spectres might come from races that have an embassy and are on good terms with the Council, but like I said that'd be a minority. Assuming there are any.

The batarians are enemies of the Council. The quarians might as well be enemies too. The drell are nearly extinct.

but the quarians aren't terrorists like the batarians.

[GodWood]

Not all batarians are terrorists.

[MrFob]

My guess is actually, that the humans were the first non council race to have a spectre. Although there is no evidence, there are a number of indications: In mE1, when you walk through the council chambers, you can overhear a turian and a salarian talk about how the humans will most probably be added to the council soon. The volus ambassador says so as well.Saren clearly differentiates the belonging to the council and the spectres but there is another issue, which is ability: The volus and the elcor are out since they re not physically adept (by there own admission). The Hanar are slow outside the water (except Blasto of course ),the batarians and the quarioans are not welcome on the citadel, maybe a drell but i doubt they are important enough to get noticed.



I'd really like to see a salarian spectre. I imagine him a bit like Tazzik from the redemption series. I mean, Mordin is very badass but he is still a scientist first, a fighter later. Kerrahe was cool but we didn't really see him in action. So I vote for a Salarian spectre in ME3 ... and maybe one we don't have to kill.

[MrCasperTom]

My name is Valia vas Retheral. Bullets are my words. Explosions are my message. Bacteria is my nemesis. Fight for the disinfectent.

Hmm...

[Valbruch]

I doubt the Council would want a Spectre that would be on a sick leave every other week.

[GenericPlayer2]

The humanity comparison is not valid - Humans had an embassy in the Citadel and Shep's introduction into the Spectres was part of a wider process of bringing humans into the council.



The Quarians on the other hand are treated like pariahs in diplomatic circles because of the way they ignored anti-AI regulations and are directly responsible for the emergence of the Geth. It is highly unlikely, for political considerations alone, that a Quarian would be given Spectre status any time soon. In addition, given what we have seen from their most skilled shock troops in action (Freedom's Progress, Haelstrom, Alarei), it is highly unlikely they would make the cut on skills alone.

[Arijharn]

GenericPlayer2 wrote...

The humanity comparison is not valid - Humans had an embassy in the Citadel and Shep's introduction into the Spectres was part of a wider process of bringing humans into the council.

Shephard becoming a Spectre had nothing to do with 'bringing human[ity] into the council.' It had to do with politics. Saren was disbarred from the Spectre's not because of Eden Prime in itself, but because Saren was working with the Geth. Because of the burgeoning military and socio-economic might of the System's Alliance, the Council threw us a bone and told us to fetch. Because we are eager dogsbody's we complied.

This is probably why Shephard's word isn't worth all that much to the Council, because despite our decisions during ME1 there probably isn't an agreement amongst the Council that we had properly earned our place there. Would the council be as reticient on acting if Nihilus told them about the Reapers, what about Saren or Tela Vasir?

Maybe, but I doubt it.

[Mox Ruuga]

A volus or a hanar would make a finer Spectre.

We can see how "effective" the quarians are as soldiers in ME2... They get splattered, each and every time. Hell, they couldn't dislodge a platoon strenght geth unit from the midst of their power base, and their best marines were repulsed with heavy casualties.

They are pathetic.

[Arijharn]

Mox Ruuga wrote...

A volus or a hanar would make a finer Spectre.

We can see how "effective" the quarians are as soldiers in ME2... They get splattered, each and every time. Hell, they couldn't dislodge a platoon strenght geth unit from the midst of their power base, and their best marines were repulsed with heavy casualties.

They are pathetic.

Lol, I remember making a thread about this several months ago amongst the height of the 'Cerberus are inept' threads.

[CroGamer002]

Quarians aren't consider Council race since Morning War.

[Moiaussi]

Shandepared wrote...

No, but they are often thieves, swindlers, and an over all burden on anyone near them.

Actually, probably a lot less than other races. The Quarians can't afford the population, and haven't gone the way of the Krogan, not having the same 'must fight' mentality.

They have a reputation as all of the above, but that likely is part anti Quarian propeganda over the Morning War (the Council still had to commit ships and resources to guard the Geth border, even if they didn't fight), and the pilgrimages (bringing things back can be looked on as scavanging and/or begging, or in some cases, stealng).

Since Quarians often return to the Migrant Fleet once they have a pigrimage gift, they could also be seen as stealing expertise and/or as having no loyalty. Staying for training then leaving is a burdon on businesses.

Modifié par Moiaussi, 19 septembre 2010 - 02:51 .

[PsyrenY]

Shandepared wrote...

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

but the quarians aren't terrorists like the batarians.

No, but they are often thieves, swindlers, and an over all burden on anyone near them.

That's a textbook Informed Flaw. Every Quarian we've seen in-game has been an honorable, hopelessly-wronged innocent.

Mox Ruuga wrote...

A volus or a hanar would make a finer Spectre.

We can see how "effective" the quarians are as soldiers in ME2... They get splattered, each and every time. Hell, they couldn't dislodge a platoon strenght geth unit from the midst of their power base, and their best marines were repulsed with heavy casualties.

They are pathetic.

Well, let's be fair - they suck vs. Geth because their strengths (tech/hacking) are completely eclipsed, and they can't stand up in a fire-fight. But their fleet is capable of some deadly bombardment, and they can seriously mess up the hardware and computers of anyone who is NOT Geth, as evidenced by Tali's threat to hack into the volus' olfactory receptors.

They're just victim to a very bad matchup.

Modifié par Optimystic_X, 19 septembre 2010 - 03:03 .

[LuxDragon]

Or the victims in a "OMG its so dangerous that everybody died, good luck!" plot. You know, the kind created to show that the situation is so dangerous that you might die because everyone else died?

Which sucks 'cause Kal'Reegar is awesome.

Modifié par LuxDragon, 19 septembre 2010 - 04:11 .